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Eddie Haskell 60

(47 posts)
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:37 PM Wednesday

Dems MUST shutdown government to deal with ICE

The only power Dems have left is to shutdown government until ICE and war powers are brought back under control. Otherwise, Dems are useless.

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Dems MUST shutdown government to deal with ICE (Original Post) Eddie Haskell 60 Wednesday OP
DURec leftstreet Wednesday #1
Demand a federal law reigning in ICE before any negotiations can happen. SSJVegeta Wednesday #2
Demand mr715 Wednesday #4
Perhaps even add 3 sets of 8 count pushups, 5 burpees -and a cerificate in accounting to the list. SSJVegeta Wednesday #7
And of course mr715 Wednesday #8
We can dream SSJVegeta Wednesday #9
Do not be complicit in crimes against humanity. mr715 Wednesday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates Wednesday #5
It's the only way right now. ananda Wednesday #6
Why do you think a government shutdown would make Republicans want to defund ICE? tritsofme Wednesday #10
To wake people up Eddie Haskell 60 Wednesday #11
The only thing that will happen is that federal workers won't get paid again. tritsofme Wednesday #23
And Families on SNAP will Not get Cha Yesterday #32
They'll get backpay like last time Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #35
So how long are you willing to sacrifice them for? Republicans aren't going to agree to defund ICE tritsofme Yesterday #37
Not nearly as cruel Eddie Haskell 60 3 hrs ago #40
But how does a government shutdown get you any closer to accomplishing those goals? tritsofme 3 hrs ago #46
A shutdown may not defund ICE... maspaha Wednesday #14
I'm not sure how forcing federal employees to work without pay for weeks or months is courageous. tritsofme Yesterday #38
No one said 'want.' I believe it is about forcing them to do so by opposing every single little thing they try. PatrickforB Wednesday #15
Bye orangecrush Wednesday #16
Adios! tritsofme Wednesday #24
Aloha! Cha Yesterday #33
Sen. Schumer... please do the right thing this time! mysteryowl Wednesday #12
And they'd be doing it for reasons more principled than another tax cut for billionaires at expense of working Americans ChicagoTeamster Wednesday #13
DU Unrec maxsolomon Wednesday #17
Well Eddie Haskell 60 3 hrs ago #41
When the Dems don't shut down the Govt maxsolomon 2 hrs ago #52
I fear its not going to work. drray23 Wednesday #18
Correct The Grand Illuminist Wednesday #19
You're right. A shutdown will likely have the opposite effect of ICE creating more chaos and suffering. ancianita Wednesday #20
rethugs would get another long vacation Bayard Wednesday #27
TY! yes We Have to Focus On Winning the Cha Yesterday #34
Exactly. Those that think otherwise are uninformed. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #30
You're not readinf the room Eddie Haskell 60 3 hrs ago #42
Shutting down government will not shut down ICE. This will not only not work, it will make everything else worse. ancianita Wednesday #21
The GOP wants to destroy the government anyway relayerbob Wednesday #22
Yeah thats a winning platform Samael13 Wednesday #25
Yes obnoxiousdrunk Wednesday #26
And how did that last shut down workout? sarisataka Wednesday #28
Last shutdown worked Eddie Haskell 60 Yesterday #36
lol, what world are you living in? ACA subsidies were not extended, the shutdown ended with Democrats getting nothing. tritsofme Yesterday #39
Post removed Post removed 3 hrs ago #43
No they werent. drray23 3 hrs ago #44
Or you could politely correct their info. nt LAS14 3 hrs ago #45
Source? Lulu KC 2 hrs ago #50
and remove noem vapor2 Yesterday #29
We aren't going to remove Noem as long as Republicans are in power. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #31
The Republicans in Congress are well aware that the public is very angry with ICE and their aggressions Quiet Em 3 hrs ago #47
Forget it. It will backfire. nt valleyrogue 2 hrs ago #48
"The only power Dems have left" but saying Dems have no power is an excuse because betsuni 2 hrs ago #49
Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon need to be fed to the fucking lions. Initech 2 hrs ago #51

SSJVegeta

(2,390 posts)
7. Perhaps even add 3 sets of 8 count pushups, 5 burpees -and a cerificate in accounting to the list.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 02:24 PM
Wednesday

mr715

(2,812 posts)
8. And of course
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 02:29 PM
Wednesday

no prior convictions, a robust background check, drug screenings, and a psych eval.

None of this DEI shit, just hire people that meet the requirements.

mr715

(2,812 posts)
3. Do not be complicit in crimes against humanity.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:48 PM
Wednesday

You are in the minority - you are not obligated to govern.

Response to Eddie Haskell 60 (Original post)

Eddie Haskell 60

(47 posts)
11. To wake people up
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:49 PM
Wednesday

Shutdown is to wake the American people up. Let them know some powers such as tariffs and war powers must return to Congress as required by the Constitution.

tritsofme

(19,813 posts)
23. The only thing that will happen is that federal workers won't get paid again.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:47 PM
Wednesday

Another thing Republicans don’t care about.

The government being shutdown isn’t a failure for them, it’s a victory in itself.

Cha

(317,108 posts)
32. And Families on SNAP will Not get
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 02:48 AM
Yesterday

Food Assistance like last time.

TY for bringing up the Fed Workers.

tritsofme

(19,813 posts)
37. So how long are you willing to sacrifice them for? Republicans aren't going to agree to defund ICE
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 01:23 PM
Yesterday

Whether you keep the government shut for a week or a year.

Back pay is great, but it doesn’t stop them from defaulting on their credit cards and mortgages.

It comes down to how long you are willing to abuse federal workers, without there being any possibility of a policy victory. To me it is just pure cruelty, there is no point.

It’s as stupid as when Ted Cruz shutdown the government to “kill Obamacare”

Eddie Haskell 60

(47 posts)
40. Not nearly as cruel
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 11:51 AM
3 hrs ago

Not nearly as cruel as allowing government to kill citizens in broad daylight and strip away our Constitutional rights. Without those, everything u mentioned will be gone anyway.

maspaha

(710 posts)
14. A shutdown may not defund ICE...
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:53 PM
Wednesday

…but, it’s at least a symbolic fight. Courage is contagious!

tritsofme

(19,813 posts)
38. I'm not sure how forcing federal employees to work without pay for weeks or months is courageous.
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 01:27 PM
Yesterday

Because that’s all that will happen, before the government is reopened with zero policy concessions.

There’s a reason Ted Cruz liked the strategy of shutting down the government so much, it’s because he’s fucking stupid.

PatrickforB

(15,353 posts)
15. No one said 'want.' I believe it is about forcing them to do so by opposing every single little thing they try.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:55 PM
Wednesday

They need to be opposed just like Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld made it so the GOP opposed all we tried to do in lockstep. Every time we ever try to do some bipartisan thing, they don't agree unless they get their way anyway.

Over the last 30 years our political dialog has moved so far to the right, by design, that a centrist position in 2025 would be considered reactionary back in 1970 or even 1980. We have to STOP these people before it is too late and that window is closing rapidly. Time to grind everything to a halt and just stop it all until some concessions can be wrung from these corrupt politicians and their billionaire/Wall Street greed-lizard owners.

mysteryowl

(8,193 posts)
12. Sen. Schumer... please do the right thing this time!
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:50 PM
Wednesday

Please remember you are a democrat and the people need you to step up!

ChicagoTeamster

(468 posts)
13. And they'd be doing it for reasons more principled than another tax cut for billionaires at expense of working Americans
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:51 PM
Wednesday

maxsolomon

(38,264 posts)
52. When the Dems don't shut down the Govt
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 01:31 PM
2 hrs ago

you'll call them Capitulators, too. I mean, if you're still on DU then.

Other DUers are calling for a General Strike. They're going to be disappointed - half this nation wants to see protesting Liberals cut down by automatic gunfire. They won't strike.

drray23

(8,600 posts)
18. I fear its not going to work.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:04 PM
Wednesday

Last shutdown, ICE was considered essential and still paid.
The GOP will not cave, they are perfectly happy to let the economy crash and people lose jobs while they keep paying their goons and spreading mayhem.

Most of the stuff the government is doing now is widly unpopular, yet they don't care and do it. Why would a shutdown pressure the gop ?

ancianita

(42,982 posts)
20. You're right. A shutdown will likely have the opposite effect of ICE creating more chaos and suffering.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:14 PM
Wednesday
Last shutdown, ICE was considered essential and still paid.


And that's what the felon wants ahead of the midterms, to claim that he's the only one who can "fix" blue states.

Bayard

(28,724 posts)
27. rethugs would get another long vacation
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 06:26 PM
Wednesday

I don't think the country is ready for Shutdown II. They would probably really blame Dems this time, as some probably haven't recovered financially yet from the last one.

Come up with another way to make the point.

Eddie Haskell 60

(47 posts)
42. You're not readinf the room
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 11:58 AM
3 hrs ago

For those paying attention, these abuses ARE popular. Not surprising coming from group voted for felon and rapist. The point of shutdown is to wake those up who are NOT paying attention.

ancianita

(42,982 posts)
21. Shutting down government will not shut down ICE. This will not only not work, it will make everything else worse.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:19 PM
Wednesday
What Continues (ICE):
Enforcement & Removals: Arrests, raids, and deportations continue as normal.
Detention Operations: The system for detaining immigrants remains active.
SEVP: The program that manages international students (F-1/M-1) is funded by fees and stays open.

What Slows Down/Stops (Immigration System):
Immigration Courts (EOIR): Hearings for non-detained individuals often get postponed, creating backlogs, even if courts technically stay open.
E-Verify: The system for employers to verify work eligibility can be temporarily unavailable, suspending deadlines for new cases.
USCIS (Sometimes): While fee-funded USCIS generally stays open, processing of some non-fee-based immigration petitions can pause.

In essence, ICE's core mission of enforcement carries on, but the court system that processes cases gets backed up, leading to uncertainty for many immigrants.

You're seeing this all wrong.

relayerbob

(7,377 posts)
22. The GOP wants to destroy the government anyway
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:32 PM
Wednesday

And Trump doesn’t care about laws so hw won’t shut down ICE.

What is required a general nationwide strike.

Samael13

(129 posts)
25. Yeah thats a winning platform
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 05:06 PM
Wednesday

Let's remember what happened last time all that was accomplished was making average Americans hurt. Do you think everyday Americans are gonna accept that again they'd turn on democrats

sarisataka

(22,253 posts)
28. And how did that last shut down workout?
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 06:30 PM
Wednesday

What makes you think another one would be any more effective?

Eddie Haskell 60

(47 posts)
36. Last shutdown worked
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 11:40 AM
Yesterday

The ACA got extended like the Dems wanted. Again, shutting down is the ONLY power Dems have left and it must be used to wake up all Americans, including those on SNAP, etc. We can rebuild a crashed economy. It's much easier than getting boots off our necks.

tritsofme

(19,813 posts)
39. lol, what world are you living in? ACA subsidies were not extended, the shutdown ended with Democrats getting nothing.
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 01:30 PM
Yesterday

The same outcome that should be expected by the new shutdown you want.

Yikes.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #39)

drray23

(8,600 posts)
44. No they werent.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 12:13 PM
3 hrs ago

There was a law introduced in the house that did pass but it failed in the senate.
Before you comment on things you have no clues about, you should educate yourself.

Lulu KC

(8,541 posts)
50. Source?
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 01:01 PM
2 hrs ago

As I barely recall, the extensions passed the house but not senate. Tell me what I don't know.

Quiet Em

(2,563 posts)
47. The Republicans in Congress are well aware that the public is very angry with ICE and their aggressions
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 12:35 PM
3 hrs ago

They have not yet even put forth a bill that funds ICE because of this. But the con artist unfortunately already has $170 Billion he can pump into ICE over the next four years.

Because of the public outrage there are serious conversations happening as to how ICE can be reined in. With the public siding with the Democrats hopefully there will be some retraints put on ICE. Along with this we need the Democrats to retake control of the House and lesson the Republican majority in the Senate in 2026.

betsuni

(28,764 posts)
49. "The only power Dems have left" but saying Dems have no power is an excuse because
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 12:54 PM
2 hrs ago

shutting down and secret both sides powers they REFUSE to use because Dems are useless but I gently constructively criticize how they could should MUST do what I say otherwise capitulating because I am right.

Initech

(107,587 posts)
51. Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon need to be fed to the fucking lions.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 01:05 PM
2 hrs ago

They cannot get away with this no matter how many Fox News appearances they make.

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