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dalton99a

(92,125 posts)
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 08:44 AM Tuesday

Stephen Miller Asserts U.S. Has Right to Take Greenland

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/us/politics/stephen-miller-greenland-venezuela.html

Stephen Miller Asserts U.S. Has Right to Take Greenland
In a CNN interview, the Trump aide also echoed the president’s intent to run Venezuela as he laid out a case for the United States to control weaker states by flexing its military might.
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2026 Updated Jan. 6, 2026, 3:46 a.m. ET

Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.

“Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland,” Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force.

The remarks were part of a vocal push by Mr. Miller, long a powerful behind-the-scenes player in Trump administration policy, to justify American imperialism and a vision for a new world order in which the United States could freely overthrow national governments and take foreign territory and resources so long as it was in the national interest.

“We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,” he said. “These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.”

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Stephen Miller Asserts U.S. Has Right to Take Greenland (Original Post) dalton99a Tuesday OP
The US used to stand for right makes might. Irish_Dem Tuesday #1
It is now a land of sadistic barbarism. dalton99a Tuesday #2
And smash and grab theft. Irish_Dem Tuesday #6
Arrest Miller. Make it hurt. 31st Street Bridge Tuesday #3
Who are you proposing arrest him, exactly? tritsofme Tuesday #20
Myocardial Infarction Mblaze Tuesday #25
Your 3auld6phart Tuesday #31
Uh...you want the Supreme Court to arrest Steven Miller? tritsofme Tuesday #34
Great ideas. Someone should do that right away! maxsolomon Tuesday #43
mr miller DonCoquixote Tuesday #4
Thinking the Greenland Grab policy is part of Trump/Putin effort to destroy NATO Attilatheblond Tuesday #17
The EU should manage to issue arrest warrants against the "terrorist threats" of... Justice matters. Tuesday #48
Denmark should invite France to place nukes there. David__77 Tuesday #5
That last paragraph sounded better in the original German. surfered Tuesday #7
I'll take it Just Jerome Tuesday #56
I would say that somebody... GiqueCee Tuesday #8
At least stuff him in a locker surfered Tuesday #11
OK, but AFTER the swirly to remember! Attilatheblond Tuesday #18
I am fairly certain that, given the opportunity, EYESORE 9001 Tuesday #19
Stephen Miller bdamomma Tuesday #13
And who elected this smarmy asshole? milestogo Tuesday #9
You had me at "Stephen Miller Ass"... RobertDevereaux Tuesday #10
Well-played, RD! Seinan Sensei Tuesday #37
This idiot bdamomma Tuesday #12
I hate that he's not entirely wrong. maxsolomon Tuesday #44
The main purpose of TSF's Greenland obsession is to destabilize NATO. Sneederbunk Tuesday #14
Naked fascism LudwigPastorius Tuesday #15
We are currently a Rogue Nation on the glide path to failed state status. Moostache Tuesday #23
Spoken like a true Nazi. How much blood has been spilled when we live like this? Ray Bruns Tuesday #16
Please save this recording for his crimes against humanity trials... Moostache Tuesday #21
Stephen Miller...might be pardoned, but not immune maspaha Tuesday #22
Well, if might makes right... LakeVermilion Tuesday #29
Keep asking the right questions to guide these assholes to incriminate themselves for the upcoming trials. ChicagoTeamster Tuesday #24
Because he said so! no_hypocrisy Tuesday #26
What the hell? DrMJG10 Tuesday #27
This Empire Of Fools has Miller's fingerprints all over it. JohnnyRingo Tuesday #28
"Tomorrow Belongs To Me." Aristus Tuesday #35
Honestly that sounds like a Nazi rally song. JohnnyRingo Tuesday #36
It's supposed to. Aristus Tuesday #38
I like your depth. JohnnyRingo Tuesday #41
Thank you, sir. Aristus Tuesday #47
They do, and they have a Nazi armband. electric_blue68 Tuesday #53
Stephen Miller spent high school being shoved into lockers Johonny Tuesday #30
Miller is a would be barbarian. He's too much of a wimp in real life. Linda ladeewolf Tuesday #32
... Solly Mack Tuesday #33
So let me get this straight Seinan Sensei Tuesday #39
The EU should manage to issue arrest warrants for "terrorism" in the names of Justice matters. Tuesday #49
Now you are catching on as to what it will take to deal with that animal. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #60
The whole Greenland thing canetoad Tuesday #40
May he receive everything he deserves. niyad Tuesday #42
"Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland" Nigrum Cattus Tuesday #45
Mr Goebbels reincarnated. mdbl Tuesday #46
He needs to stop... 2naSalit Tuesday #50
Going full Third Reich. Eugene Tuesday #51
If Steven Miller JustAnotherGen Tuesday #52
It'd definitely shake things up to their (hopefully!) detriment. electric_blue68 Tuesday #54
All it takes JustAnotherGen Tuesday #55
Big mouth asshole with little guy disease Wifes husband Tuesday #57
Ask Hitler. moondust Tuesday #58
The headline has a misspelling, it should be "Reich" Uncle Joe Tuesday #59
LOCK HIM UP Evolve Dammit Tuesday #61
MaddowBlog-White House's Stephen Miller suggests the U.S. is entitled to Greenland LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #62
For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destin LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #63
Greenland needs a multinational NATO force there stat Arazi Tuesday #64
MaddowBlog-Team Trump confirms: The administration wants to buy Greenland LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #65

Irish_Dem

(79,809 posts)
1. The US used to stand for right makes might.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 08:52 AM
Tuesday

Now we are might makes right.

We officially are no longer a civilized country.

3. Arrest Miller. Make it hurt.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 09:09 AM
Tuesday

Then when he gets released, arrest him again.
Where the hell is the fight in the other side?????

3auld6phart

(1,670 posts)
31. Your
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:44 AM
Tuesday

Gawd damn Supreme Court, assholes. The American electorate a P athletic bunch losers, a freaking joke. Bunch oh losers afraid of a child rapist.cowards the lot….

maxsolomon

(38,193 posts)
43. Great ideas. Someone should do that right away!
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 01:20 PM
Tuesday

Do you have any great ideas for how the "other side" should fight Stephen Miller's 19th Century Imperialist worldview?

DonCoquixote

(13,943 posts)
4. mr miller
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 09:21 AM
Tuesday

I think the EU might have somethign to say about that. Granted, you are probably making deals with th e Russians to take it. considering the last time they tried they had to run. The EU is prepared to fight you.

Attilatheblond

(8,292 posts)
17. Thinking the Greenland Grab policy is part of Trump/Putin effort to destroy NATO
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 10:55 AM
Tuesday

and part Give the Tech Billionaires their own wet dream of a white xian male (possibly legalized rape) tax haven kingdom.

For years, I have figured the rush to own all the money would re-establish fiefdoms and warlords as the world order. Marching back to the dark ages with modern weapons and data grabbing tools.

https://www.thenerdreich.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-build-a-network-state-in-greenland/]

Justice matters.

(9,390 posts)
48. The EU should manage to issue arrest warrants against the "terrorist threats" of...
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 02:17 PM
Tuesday

Stephen Miller and his wife.

See how they run...

surfered

(11,535 posts)
7. That last paragraph sounded better in the original German.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 09:29 AM
Tuesday

It’s obvious this administration has no morals or ethics if they think they can take something that doesn’t belong to them by force.

I’m an old man, but in reasonable shape. I think I’ll just take Miller’s lunch money from him by force. He would understand based upon his statement.

GiqueCee

(3,410 posts)
8. I would say that somebody...
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 09:34 AM
Tuesday

... really has to drive a stake through Nosferatu's heart... but he doesn't have one. Or just stuff him with garlic. Something... ANYTHING!
The stench of his evil is nauseating.

bdamomma

(69,171 posts)
13. Stephen Miller
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 10:10 AM
Tuesday

has his own agenda of mental illness symptoms. He is incompetent and insecure.

bdamomma

(69,171 posts)
12. This idiot
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 10:03 AM
Tuesday

Stephen Miller is behind this all. He needs to STFU.

This comment he made makes me sick. Miller really has problems even his own family disowned him.

“We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,” he said. “These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.”


maxsolomon

(38,193 posts)
44. I hate that he's not entirely wrong.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 01:24 PM
Tuesday

Might makes Right is how nations have acted through all human history. Conquering and re-conquering territory, monarchies and dictators imposing their will through force.

"Dieu et mon doigt": God and my right, the motto of the British Monarchy.

Sneederbunk

(17,258 posts)
14. The main purpose of TSF's Greenland obsession is to destabilize NATO.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 10:45 AM
Tuesday

Pootie approves. Probably his idea.

Moostache

(10,983 posts)
23. We are currently a Rogue Nation on the glide path to failed state status.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:16 AM
Tuesday

The current "leadership" are all either guilty of war crimes or guilty of crimes against humanity and NEED to be captured, tried and convicted in The Hague as soon as humanly possible - BEFORE they start using nuclear weapons indiscriminately.

Ray Bruns

(5,981 posts)
16. Spoken like a true Nazi. How much blood has been spilled when we live like this?
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 10:47 AM
Tuesday

“We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,” Stephen Miller

Moostache

(10,983 posts)
21. Please save this recording for his crimes against humanity trials...
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:14 AM
Tuesday

I want to see him tried, convicted and hanged as much as any of the Nazis at Nuremberg. He is human toxic waste in a bad suit and worse disposition.

ChicagoTeamster

(441 posts)
24. Keep asking the right questions to guide these assholes to incriminate themselves for the upcoming trials.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:24 AM
Tuesday

DrMJG10

(51 posts)
27. What the hell?
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:33 AM
Tuesday

It is time to realize that we need to move in and stop this Nazi. We have neither the right to seize Greenland nor Venezuela. The Monroe Doctrine is no longer in effect. Condemn his words at every utterance! It is beings such as Miller who has the Presidunce's ear. Come on GOP! Does he really speak for the party? Grow a pair and stop this madness!

JohnnyRingo

(20,507 posts)
28. This Empire Of Fools has Miller's fingerprints all over it.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 11:33 AM
Tuesday

A global expansion of power is just the kind of arrogant dreams of wannabe dictator.
"Everybody knows the world belongs to us"

JohnnyRingo

(20,507 posts)
36. Honestly that sounds like a Nazi rally song.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 12:27 PM
Tuesday

The singer even comes off as very Aryan. Appropriately.

Aristus

(71,649 posts)
38. It's supposed to.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 12:36 PM
Tuesday

When I was a kid, my Dad told me it was a Hitler Youth song. It's not. It was actually written specifically for the stage musical (by a Jewish composer, no less). But it does what it is supposed to do; get the common, unthinking "patriots" to embrace, or at least excuse, atrocity, so long as they get to feel good about their country.

JohnnyRingo

(20,507 posts)
41. I like your depth.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 12:59 PM
Tuesday

The ability to scratch beneath the veneer and see the ugly particle board.

Seinan Sensei

(1,366 posts)
39. So let me get this straight
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 12:49 PM
Tuesday

If someone walked up to Stephen Miller, and kicked his ass out of his own house, that would be okay?

Assuming, of course, that said kicker-person has “strength, force, and power.”

And I am guessing, too, that lil’ Stevie would be reduced to tears when Policeman says, “There’s nothing we can do. We live in a world, in the real world, Mr Miller, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.”

Justice matters.

(9,390 posts)
49. The EU should manage to issue arrest warrants for "terrorism" in the names of
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 02:24 PM
Tuesday

Stephen Miller and his wife.

They have all the evidence on tube and social media.

See how these stupid fascists "like" it.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,188 posts)
60. Now you are catching on as to what it will take to deal with that animal.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 06:22 PM
Tuesday

As well as all of the other animals that are in our government at this time.

But, I bet it won't happen... because reasons...

canetoad

(20,221 posts)
40. The whole Greenland thing
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 12:52 PM
Tuesday

Might be a scheme to break up NATO.

NATO member USA invades land of NATO member Denmark. Not going to go down well. Putins filthy fingers all over this.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,226 posts)
45. "Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland"
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 01:59 PM
Tuesday

Hey, Stefan ( real pronunciation ) we the people of the
U.S. will fight it, and we ain't nobody

Eugene

(66,800 posts)
51. Going full Third Reich.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:37 PM
Tuesday

Nazi Germany claimed to be held down by weaker nations.

A neobarbaric call back to "He shall take, who has the power."

Might makes right.

moondust

(21,208 posts)
58. Ask Hitler.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 05:05 PM
Tuesday

He apparently thought he could just take Poland and Czechoslovakia and Austria and Denmark and Norway and Belgium and The Netherlands and France and British Channel Islands and the Soviet Union and Italy and some countries in Northern Africa and and and and ...

How that work out, Skeevy Stevie?

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,961 posts)
62. MaddowBlog-White House's Stephen Miller suggests the U.S. is entitled to Greenland
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 06:59 PM
Tuesday

For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destiny.

For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, a different 19th-century concept — Manifest Destiny — should be part of the same conversation.

Instead of eying US expansion to the Pacific, Team Trump apparently believes we’re destined to control the entire hemisphere.

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-06T18:11:19.889Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stephen-miller-greenland-us-manifest-destiny

The Republican added that there was a “good possibility that we could do it without military force,” but he went on to say that he wasn’t going to “take anything off the table.”

Almost a year later, the administration continues to insist on its radical vision. The New York Times reported:

Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.

‘Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland,’ Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force
.


According to CNN’s transcript, the full context of Miller’s quote was, “The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. There’s no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you’re asking, of a military operation. Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.”.....

The day before Miller’s on-air comments, the president emphasized his belief that the U.S. needs to acquire Greenland “from a national security situation,” and the day after Miller’s appearance, Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry, the White House’s odd choice for a special envoy to Greenland, appeared on CNBC and refused to rule out the possibility of a U.S. takeover of the Arctic island.

QUICK: You're talking about doing business. Is this us just going to Greenland and doing deals with them, or is this us taking it over?

JEFF LANDRY: The president is one of those people that says everything is on the table

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-06T14:28:57.480Z


......For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, it seems that a different 19th century concept — Manifest Destiny — deserves to be part of the same conversation. But instead of advocating the expansion of the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Team Trump appears to be operating under the assumption that we’re destined to control the entire hemisphere.

Our longtime allies appear unimpressed. The U.S. faced a rare rebuke at an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Monday. A day later, major European allies warned the United States that they would “not stop defending” the values of sovereignty and territorial integrity, in direct response to the White House threats against Greenland.

If Team Trump’s goal was to further isolate the United States for no reason, it’s succeeding beautifully.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,961 posts)
63. For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destin
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 07:00 PM
Tuesday

For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destiny.

For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, a different 19th-century concept — Manifest Destiny — should be part of the same conversation.

Instead of eying US expansion to the Pacific, Team Trump apparently believes we’re destined to control the entire hemisphere.

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-06T18:11:19.889Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stephen-miller-greenland-us-manifest-destiny

The Republican added that there was a “good possibility that we could do it without military force,” but he went on to say that he wasn’t going to “take anything off the table.”

Almost a year later, the administration continues to insist on its radical vision. The New York Times reported:

Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.

‘Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland,’ Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force
.


According to CNN’s transcript, the full context of Miller’s quote was, “The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. There’s no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you’re asking, of a military operation. Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.”.....

The day before Miller’s on-air comments, the president emphasized his belief that the U.S. needs to acquire Greenland “from a national security situation,” and the day after Miller’s appearance, Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry, the White House’s odd choice for a special envoy to Greenland, appeared on CNBC and refused to rule out the possibility of a U.S. takeover of the Arctic island.

QUICK: You're talking about doing business. Is this us just going to Greenland and doing deals with them, or is this us taking it over?

JEFF LANDRY: The president is one of those people that says everything is on the table

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-06T14:28:57.480Z


......For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, it seems that a different 19th century concept — Manifest Destiny — deserves to be part of the same conversation. But instead of advocating the expansion of the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Team Trump appears to be operating under the assumption that we’re destined to control the entire hemisphere.

Our longtime allies appear unimpressed. The U.S. faced a rare rebuke at an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Monday. A day later, major European allies warned the United States that they would “not stop defending” the values of sovereignty and territorial integrity, in direct response to the White House threats against Greenland.

If Team Trump’s goal was to further isolate the United States for no reason, it’s succeeding beautifully.

Arazi

(8,701 posts)
64. Greenland needs a multinational NATO force there stat
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 07:03 PM
Tuesday

A tripwire to ensure this gets massively slowed down or stopped as American troops weigh whether to blow fellow Brits, French, Danes to bits for Traitor’s imperialism.

There’s no one in the WH inner circle to talk Traitor down.

It’s happening and Denmark needs troops there today

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,961 posts)
65. MaddowBlog-Team Trump confirms: The administration wants to buy Greenland
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 07:04 PM
23 hrs ago

Where exactly does the president intend to get the money to buy a massive arctic island that isn’t for sale?

Mike Johnson: Rubio was kidding about Trump wanting to buy Greenland.

Rubio: No, I wasn’t. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-07T19:59:04.538Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-confirms-the-administration-wants-to-buy-greenland

The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times reported, and MS NOW confirmed, that Secretary of State Marco Rubio told lawmakers in a classified briefing this week that the White House is less interested in military action and more interested in trying to buy Greenland — which, by all accounts, is not currently for sale.

On Tuesday, House Speaker Mike Johnson brushed off the idea, telling reporters that Rubio might’ve made the comment “in jest.” The Louisiana Republican repeated the line Wednesday morning, explaining at a Capitol Hill press conference that he thinks he remembers hearing the secretary of state talk about a possible Greenland purchase, but the GOP leader said he “took it as a joke.”

Readers, it was not a joke.

Q: Does the US intend to buy Greenland?

MARCO RUBIO: That's always been the president's intent

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-07T16:31:55.422Z


Asked to clarify comments he made to lawmakers behind closed doors on Monday, Rubio told reporters late Wednesday morning that it’s “always” been Trump’s “intent” to try to buy Greenland.

Less than an hour later, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said largely the same thing, explaining during a briefing that the president is “actively” discussing the purchase of Greenland.

Leavitt says Trump is "actively" discussing buying Greenland

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-07T17:10:56.139Z


As policy priorities go, all of this seems plainly ridiculous. And yet it also raises a host of new and related questions: Where exactly does Trump intend to get the money to buy a massive arctic island that isn’t for sale? Is he going to ask Congress to appropriate the funds? Would GOP lawmakers be willing to write an enormous check?

And how embarrassed is the House speaker right now after his “took it as a joke” line has been publicly discredited by his ostensible allies?

I was also wondering how trump will get Congress to give him the funds to buy Greenland.
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