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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/us/politics/stephen-miller-greenland-venezuela.htmlStephen Miller Asserts U.S. Has Right to Take Greenland
In a CNN interview, the Trump aide also echoed the presidents intent to run Venezuela as he laid out a case for the United States to control weaker states by flexing its military might.
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2026 Updated Jan. 6, 2026, 3:46 a.m. ET
Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.
Nobodys going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland, Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force.
The remarks were part of a vocal push by Mr. Miller, long a powerful behind-the-scenes player in Trump administration policy, to justify American imperialism and a vision for a new world order in which the United States could freely overthrow national governments and take foreign territory and resources so long as it was in the national interest.
We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power, he said. These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.
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Irish_Dem
(79,809 posts)Now we are might makes right.
We officially are no longer a civilized country.
dalton99a
(92,125 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,809 posts)31st Street Bridge
(87 posts)Then when he gets released, arrest him again.
Where the hell is the fight in the other side?????
tritsofme
(19,797 posts)Mblaze
(924 posts)Make it a cardiac arrest.
Gawd damn Supreme Court, assholes. The American electorate a P athletic bunch losers, a freaking joke. Bunch oh losers afraid of a child rapist.cowards the lot .
tritsofme
(19,797 posts)lol, bizarre.
maxsolomon
(38,193 posts)Do you have any great ideas for how the "other side" should fight Stephen Miller's 19th Century Imperialist worldview?
DonCoquixote
(13,943 posts)I think the EU might have somethign to say about that. Granted, you are probably making deals with th e Russians to take it. considering the last time they tried they had to run. The EU is prepared to fight you.
Attilatheblond
(8,292 posts)and part Give the Tech Billionaires their own wet dream of a white xian male (possibly legalized rape) tax haven kingdom.
For years, I have figured the rush to own all the money would re-establish fiefdoms and warlords as the world order. Marching back to the dark ages with modern weapons and data grabbing tools.
https://www.thenerdreich.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-build-a-network-state-in-greenland/]
Justice matters.
(9,390 posts)Stephen Miller and his wife.
See how they run...
David__77
(24,508 posts)surfered
(11,535 posts)Its obvious this administration has no morals or ethics if they think they can take something that doesnt belong to them by force.
Im an old man, but in reasonable shape. I think Ill just take Millers lunch money from him by force. He would understand based upon his statement.
Just Jerome
(434 posts)the next day. Where's the sign up sheet?
GiqueCee
(3,410 posts)... really has to drive a stake through Nosferatu's heart... but he doesn't have one. Or just stuff him with garlic. Something... ANYTHING!
The stench of his evil is nauseating.
surfered
(11,535 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,292 posts)EYESORE 9001
(29,456 posts)I would give him an atomic wedgie.
bdamomma
(69,171 posts)has his own agenda of mental illness symptoms. He is incompetent and insecure.
milestogo
(22,582 posts)NOBODY.
RobertDevereaux
(2,023 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,366 posts)bdamomma
(69,171 posts)Stephen Miller is behind this all. He needs to STFU.
This comment he made makes me sick. Miller really has problems even his own family disowned him.
We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power, he said. These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.
maxsolomon
(38,193 posts)Might makes Right is how nations have acted through all human history. Conquering and re-conquering territory, monarchies and dictators imposing their will through force.
"Dieu et mon doigt": God and my right, the motto of the British Monarchy.
Sneederbunk
(17,258 posts)Pootie approves. Probably his idea.
LudwigPastorius
(14,166 posts)It is the official foreign policy of the United States now.
Moostache
(10,983 posts)The current "leadership" are all either guilty of war crimes or guilty of crimes against humanity and NEED to be captured, tried and convicted in The Hague as soon as humanly possible - BEFORE they start using nuclear weapons indiscriminately.
Ray Bruns
(5,981 posts)We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power, Stephen Miller
Moostache
(10,983 posts)I want to see him tried, convicted and hanged as much as any of the Nazis at Nuremberg. He is human toxic waste in a bad suit and worse disposition.
maspaha
(707 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,496 posts)we can just shred that pardon.
ChicagoTeamster
(441 posts)no_hypocrisy
(54,282 posts)DrMJG10
(51 posts)It is time to realize that we need to move in and stop this Nazi. We have neither the right to seize Greenland nor Venezuela. The Monroe Doctrine is no longer in effect. Condemn his words at every utterance! It is beings such as Miller who has the Presidunce's ear. Come on GOP! Does he really speak for the party? Grow a pair and stop this madness!
JohnnyRingo
(20,507 posts)A global expansion of power is just the kind of arrogant dreams of wannabe dictator.
"Everybody knows the world belongs to us"
Aristus
(71,649 posts)JohnnyRingo
(20,507 posts)The singer even comes off as very Aryan. Appropriately.
Aristus
(71,649 posts)When I was a kid, my Dad told me it was a Hitler Youth song. It's not. It was actually written specifically for the stage musical (by a Jewish composer, no less). But it does what it is supposed to do; get the common, unthinking "patriots" to embrace, or at least excuse, atrocity, so long as they get to feel good about their country.
JohnnyRingo
(20,507 posts)The ability to scratch beneath the veneer and see the ugly particle board.
Aristus
(71,649 posts)electric_blue68
(25,924 posts)Johonny
(25,456 posts)Because he deserved it.
Linda ladeewolf
(1,105 posts)Solly Mack
(96,334 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,366 posts)If someone walked up to Stephen Miller, and kicked his ass out of his own house, that would be okay?
Assuming, of course, that said kicker-person has strength, force, and power.
And I am guessing, too, that lil Stevie would be reduced to tears when Policeman says, Theres nothing we can do. We live in a world, in the real world, Mr Miller, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.
Justice matters.
(9,390 posts)Stephen Miller and his wife.
They have all the evidence on tube and social media.
See how these stupid fascists "like" it.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,188 posts)As well as all of the other animals that are in our government at this time.
But, I bet it won't happen... because reasons...
canetoad
(20,221 posts)Might be a scheme to break up NATO.
NATO member USA invades land of NATO member Denmark. Not going to go down well. Putins filthy fingers all over this.
niyad
(129,553 posts)Nigrum Cattus
(1,226 posts)Hey, Stefan ( real pronunciation ) we the people of the
U.S. will fight it, and we ain't nobody
mdbl
(8,115 posts)2naSalit
(100,008 posts)Using his head as a buttplug. We don't need to see that.
Eugene
(66,800 posts)Nazi Germany claimed to be held down by weaker nations.
A neobarbaric call back to "He shall take, who has the power."
Might makes right.
JustAnotherGen
(37,565 posts)Is taken off the board - the entire game changes.
electric_blue68
(25,924 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,565 posts)Is one really pissed off American.
Wifes husband
(696 posts)moondust
(21,208 posts)He apparently thought he could just take Poland and Czechoslovakia and Austria and Denmark and Norway and Belgium and The Netherlands and France and British Channel Islands and the Soviet Union and Italy and some countries in Northern Africa and and and and ...
How that work out, Skeevy Stevie?
Uncle Joe
(64,231 posts)Thanks for the thread dalton
Evolve Dammit
(21,499 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,961 posts)For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destiny.
For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, a different 19th-century concept â Manifest Destiny â should be part of the same conversation.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-06T18:11:19.889Z
Instead of eying US expansion to the Pacific, Team Trump apparently believes weâre destined to control the entire hemisphere.
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stephen-miller-greenland-us-manifest-destiny
The Republican added that there was a good possibility that we could do it without military force, but he went on to say that he wasnt going to take anything off the table.
Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.
Nobodys going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland, Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force.
According to CNNs transcript, the full context of Millers quote was, The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. Theres no need to even think or talk about this in the context that youre asking, of a military operation. Nobodys going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland......
The day before Millers on-air comments, the president emphasized his belief that the U.S. needs to acquire Greenland from a national security situation, and the day after Millers appearance, Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry, the White Houses odd choice for a special envoy to Greenland, appeared on CNBC and refused to rule out the possibility of a U.S. takeover of the Arctic island.
QUICK: You're talking about doing business. Is this us just going to Greenland and doing deals with them, or is this us taking it over?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-06T14:28:57.480Z
JEFF LANDRY: The president is one of those people that says everything is on the table
......For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, it seems that a different 19th century concept Manifest Destiny deserves to be part of the same conversation. But instead of advocating the expansion of the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Team Trump appears to be operating under the assumption that were destined to control the entire hemisphere.
Our longtime allies appear unimpressed. The U.S. faced a rare rebuke at an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Monday. A day later, major European allies warned the United States that they would not stop defending the values of sovereignty and territorial integrity, in direct response to the White House threats against Greenland.
If Team Trumps goal was to further isolate the United States for no reason, its succeeding beautifully.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,961 posts)For all the talk about the Monroe Doctrine, we really ought to discuss a different 19th century concept: Manifest Destiny.
For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, a different 19th-century concept â Manifest Destiny â should be part of the same conversation.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-06T18:11:19.889Z
Instead of eying US expansion to the Pacific, Team Trump apparently believes weâre destined to control the entire hemisphere.
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stephen-miller-greenland-us-manifest-destiny
The Republican added that there was a good possibility that we could do it without military force, but he went on to say that he wasnt going to take anything off the table.
Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, asserted on Monday that Greenland rightfully belonged to the United States and that the Trump administration could seize the semiautonomous Danish territory if it wanted.
Nobodys going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland, Mr. Miller told Jake Tapper, the CNN host, after being asked repeatedly whether he would rule out using military force.
According to CNNs transcript, the full context of Millers quote was, The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. Theres no need to even think or talk about this in the context that youre asking, of a military operation. Nobodys going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland......
The day before Millers on-air comments, the president emphasized his belief that the U.S. needs to acquire Greenland from a national security situation, and the day after Millers appearance, Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry, the White Houses odd choice for a special envoy to Greenland, appeared on CNBC and refused to rule out the possibility of a U.S. takeover of the Arctic island.
QUICK: You're talking about doing business. Is this us just going to Greenland and doing deals with them, or is this us taking it over?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-06T14:28:57.480Z
JEFF LANDRY: The president is one of those people that says everything is on the table
......For all of the recent White House talk about the Monroe Doctrine, it seems that a different 19th century concept Manifest Destiny deserves to be part of the same conversation. But instead of advocating the expansion of the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Team Trump appears to be operating under the assumption that were destined to control the entire hemisphere.
Our longtime allies appear unimpressed. The U.S. faced a rare rebuke at an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Monday. A day later, major European allies warned the United States that they would not stop defending the values of sovereignty and territorial integrity, in direct response to the White House threats against Greenland.
If Team Trumps goal was to further isolate the United States for no reason, its succeeding beautifully.
Arazi
(8,701 posts)A tripwire to ensure this gets massively slowed down or stopped as American troops weigh whether to blow fellow Brits, French, Danes to bits for Traitors imperialism.
Theres no one in the WH inner circle to talk Traitor down.
Its happening and Denmark needs troops there today
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,961 posts)Where exactly does the president intend to get the money to buy a massive arctic island that isnt for sale?
Mike Johnson: Rubio was kidding about Trump wanting to buy Greenland.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-07T19:59:04.538Z
Rubio: No, I wasnât. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-confirms-the-administration-wants-to-buy-greenland
On Tuesday, House Speaker Mike Johnson brushed off the idea, telling reporters that Rubio mightve made the comment in jest. The Louisiana Republican repeated the line Wednesday morning, explaining at a Capitol Hill press conference that he thinks he remembers hearing the secretary of state talk about a possible Greenland purchase, but the GOP leader said he took it as a joke.
Readers, it was not a joke.
Q: Does the US intend to buy Greenland?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-07T16:31:55.422Z
MARCO RUBIO: That's always been the president's intent
Asked to clarify comments he made to lawmakers behind closed doors on Monday, Rubio told reporters late Wednesday morning that its always been Trumps intent to try to buy Greenland.
Less than an hour later, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said largely the same thing, explaining during a briefing that the president is actively discussing the purchase of Greenland.
Leavitt says Trump is "actively" discussing buying Greenland
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-07T17:10:56.139Z
As policy priorities go, all of this seems plainly ridiculous. And yet it also raises a host of new and related questions: Where exactly does Trump intend to get the money to buy a massive arctic island that isnt for sale? Is he going to ask Congress to appropriate the funds? Would GOP lawmakers be willing to write an enormous check?
And how embarrassed is the House speaker right now after his took it as a joke line has been publicly discredited by his ostensible allies?
I was also wondering how trump will get Congress to give him the funds to buy Greenland.