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lapfog_1
(31,664 posts)And they have free and fair elections, then Maduro should be returned to Venezuela to FACE charges THERE about election fraud.
I have a number of friends of mine from Venezuela ( some are in exile in Chile ) and this is what they tell me THEY want. And really this should not be up to us, it should be up to them.
Right now they tell me the grocery stores are empty and there is no medicine, power is intermittent at best in Caracas. so immediate humanitarian aid is needed... then they can start thinking about the future... THEIR future.
Aussie105
(7,653 posts)No one looks favourably on 'this is what you want' imposed from outside, it needs to come from within Venezuela.
Venezuela needs humanitarian aid to make life bearable for the average citizen, not heavy handed military invasion.
Well said!
ForgedCrank
(3,029 posts)claimed is true, no. He belongs in prison.
This isn't about who is our President at this moment, that shouldn't even be a considered factor here. I'm not interested in letting a cartel leader loose simply because I don't like the guy who arrested him. But I don't even know if any of that is actually true or not, I have not followed the Venezuela thing in detail.
Melon
(1,093 posts)In 2018 they had a 1,000,000% inflation. Thats the year I stopped doing business with the country because it was no longer possible. 2013 - 2025, Chavez and then Maduro destroyed the country. The USA lost 30% of its GDP during the great depression. Venezuela lost 80% of its GDP under their rule. People survived eating from the trash. They killed and ate the city animals. This was to enrich their elites while espousing socialism for all.
Aussie105
(7,653 posts)Does any country have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of any other country?
Even one where internal turmoil, mismanagement, blatant cruelty and self-interest by the elite is destroying it from inside?
If you answered YES, then the US is open for the same treatment Trump has imposed on Venezuela.
Think about it.
Not like America can claim the moral high ground at the moment.
Melon
(1,093 posts)Aussie105
(7,653 posts)It's a loaded question that doesn't deserve an answer.
Similar to 'Have you stopped beating your wife yet?'
Melon
(1,093 posts)Different and the other question is valid.
You can have two truths. Maduro was shit. Maduro should not have been removed moved.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,574 posts)"Maduro was shit" - so most people here don't want him back "in control" in Venezuela.
"Maduro should not have been removed moved" - so there's an argument he should be released from prison.
Torchlight
(6,316 posts)and asks a question that touches upon more than one issue, yet allows only for one answer.
AZProgressive
(29,852 posts)what happens if he isn't convicted at trial? What should he be allowed to do in that scenario or do we just deport him and to where?
Aussie105
(7,653 posts)It will be a sham trial.
Guilty as charged from the word go.
Blue Full Moon
(3,171 posts)Coventina
(29,172 posts)As your "simple question" seems to force people to say.
Well, I'm not going to say it.
tirebiter
(2,667 posts)Trump is irrelevant. The next Democratic president can establish a good working relationship. We failed by not electing Harris. Biden already had Maduro under DEA and CIA investigation. Boat bombing has to be declared and remain illegal. This could have been done above board. We still need to retake Congress.
Raine
(31,095 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(105,574 posts)It is, in some ways, a leading question. You've put multiple actions ("released", "returned" and "to resume control" ) all into one question, and then added another question about this being via a Democratic Presidential pardon.
It's thus highly speculative, and includes a future situation (from 2029 onwards), when much might happen between now and then.
I'll ask you a "simple" question (simpler, anyway): Do you believe there is enough genuine evidence to convict Maduro in a fair US court and process (ie beyond reasonable doubt) of the charges that have been brought against him?
malaise
(292,858 posts)The entire act is illegal
Prairie Gates
(7,205 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,865 posts)And he would have been fine. Instead he entertained the BRICS nations and so he had to go.
Its that simple. This is all about the petrodollar.
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