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(51,701 posts) Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:30 PM Sunday

During the past year I have often wondered whether we've been better off

whether he - hear me out, please - had won in 2020.

For a start, his term would be over.

No Jan 6 riots with all the disaster outcomes

No governing by revenge and retributions

ACA will not be in danger (I think)

He will not squeeze individuals and corporations for ransoms that went straight to his pockets

Thousands of Federal employees would not be in the streets

and just recently, he would not lead our 250 celebrations.

I don’t really know how much of Biden new laws are still on the books.

But, Ukraine would be part of the Soviet Union…

Just each day is getting worse and worse. Enough already!

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During the past year I have often wondered whether we've been better off (Original Post) question everything Sunday OP

We'd be in his third term now, so, probably not. We could have gotten nuked as well by now. No way to know Blues Heron Sunday #1

I've considered that. bucolic_frolic Sunday #2

An interesting thought experiment, albeit a painful one. yellow dahlia Sunday #3

I hate to even think this, but my opinion is no. Because this has to become Scrivener7 Sunday #4

8 years of mind-boggling stupidity vs. 4 years of mind-boggling stupidity AND 4 years of devastating cruelty dalton99a Sunday #5

Well, better yet, maybe we should have skipped that revolutionary War thingy and just stuck with England yaesu Sunday #6

Or already engaged in WWIII rather than on the cusp. nt PufPuf23 Sunday #7

Blues Heron

(8,391 posts)

1. We'd be in his third term now, so, probably not. We could have gotten nuked as well by now. No way to know

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Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:35 PM

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bucolic_frolic

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2. I've considered that.

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Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:53 PM

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Biden should have run in 2016, though I know his stated reasons for not running and this is not to criticize. He was the heir apparent, Obama's VP.

Trump would not be on a vengeance tour. So retribution would be harder to sell.

Would Trump have run for a 3rd term? No, I don't think so. It would have been expected he retire. But we'd be worse off. Biden did accomplish some things, if only to remind us of normality and strengthen our resolve. The left, and Democrats, are stronger for it. The GOP is faltering and elects narrow majorities that barely function. That says something.

yellow dahlia

(4,577 posts)

3. An interesting thought experiment, albeit a painful one.

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Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:57 PM

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Scrivener7

(58,360 posts)

4. I hate to even think this, but my opinion is no. Because this has to become

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Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:13 PM

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absolutely painful and and bankrupting and heartbreaking for a large swath of the country if we are going to come out the other side with the national will to prevent it from ever happening again.

As you say, maybe things are worse because he lost in 2020. To which I say, sadly, that is probably necessary for any rising from the ashes in the long run.

The problem is, I think it's a razor's edge of whether we do rise from the ashes or we do not.