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applegrove

(130,302 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 06:00 PM Sunday

Um how does Trump expect to get control of Venezuela's oil with no troops on the ground?

How does the mango shitgibbon expect to rule Venezuela and steal its oil without putting American troops on the ground there? ... Or is he planning to use Blackwater and other mercenaries – like a new version of the East India Company?

Brexit Bin 🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🇩🇪 (@brexitbin.bsky.social) 2026-01-04T12:42:01.446Z
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RockRaven

(18,729 posts)
2. Coercion and corruption.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 06:14 PM
Sunday

Note I'm not saying those will work, just answering the question about what he expects to work.

Johonny

(25,475 posts)
4. He thinks he can threaten a second attack
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:16 PM
Sunday

And that will get new leader to comply.

The trick, though, is the lack of interest of US companies to want this oil. Chevron is already their and not exactly making bank.

PufPuf23

(9,709 posts)
5. Install management in thrall to Trump.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:29 PM
Sunday

Cronyism and organized crime that feeds on the wealth of Venezuelans.

Management that depends on Trump for the positions and staying in the positions.

Management that controls crude production and where and how processed and sold.

Trump and corporate buddies get large slice of profits and makes and ats on threats to maintain control.

Aussie105

(7,653 posts)
7. Trump will leave the 'running of Venezuela' up to his cronies.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:38 PM
Sunday

Mission accomplished, according to Trump.

Said cronies, being of low skills beyond kissing ass, will stuff it up.
Every past regime change with American guidance has been marked with major flops.

Any other country where externally forced regime change led to a spontaneous adoption of American style Democracy?

Democracy isn't a default setting most countries revert to once you upset the apple cart, no matter what some Americans think.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,007 posts)
9. trump will NOT be running Venezuela- It was regime decapitation, not regime change.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:45 PM
Sunday

All trump did was to "arrest" and remove Maduro. There was NO regime change. See https://democraticunderground.com/100220907148 and https://democraticunderground.com/100220907041 for Professor Vladeck's explanation. trump did not remove the current government and is NOT in control.

Trump claims the U.S. will run Venezuela. What's the plan?
The raid to nab Maduro was brilliantly executed. The aftermath could get extremely messy.
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Voice4Justice (@voices4justice.bsky.social) 2026-01-03T20:57:57.418Z

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/01/03/trump-maduro-raid-military-venezuela/

In Venezuela, by comparison, U.S. troops staged a quick in-and-out raid. It was regime decapitation, not regime change. At his Mar-a-Lago news conference, Trump said, “We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.” What is he talking about? There are no indications that U.S. troops are preparing to occupy Venezuela. If such an operation were attempted, it could easily turn into a debacle, just like the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and it would violate Trump’s repeated pledges not to engage in “nation-building.”

Maduro was not a one-man band. He presided over a large apparatus of oppression, including, among others, the army, the national guard, the national police, the intelligence service, and a Colombian guerrilla group ELN. All of those forces remain intact after the U.S. raid. Also still in place are many of Maduro’s top lieutenants, including the ministers of defense and interior, who were implicated in his alleged crimes.

They give no sign of willingness to cede power to the democratic opposition led by María Corina Machado, who recently left the country to accept the Noble Peace Prize. Edmundo González, who was widely believed to have won the rigged 2024 presidential election, is also out of the country. On Saturday, Trump spoke dismissively about Machado and said Secretary of State Marco Rubio is talking with Maduro’s hand-picked vice president, Delcy Rodríguez.....

Like George W. Bush after the invasion of Iraq, Trump enjoyed his “Mission Accomplished” moment on Saturday. But if there is one thing we have learned over the past quarter-century, it is much easier to topple tyrants than to build stable and secure societies afterward. History’s ultimate verdict on Trump’s military operation will be based on the fate of post-Maduro Venezuela, and the U.S., despite what Trump said about running the country, has only limited leverage to determine its fate.

ecstatic

(35,012 posts)
10. what oil company in their right mind would step into such an unstable situation?
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:46 PM
Sunday

Are you kidding me? They don't even know what type of resistance they'd be facing yet and KegsBreath is not qualified.

I'm wondering about the cost as well. The US will "run" Venezuela. How? Will they set up DOGE there too?

Is the plan to let the citizens of Venezuela magically fend for themselves with no government in place?

So much for reducing the deficit!

Magats were conned again but some of them are still twisting themselves into knots to defend this.

Honestly, someone needs to capture / arrest trump. The US has over 400,000,000 guns which is unsustainable and dangerous.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
12. I hope he pisses off the maggots so much that they turn all their guns on HIM.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:51 PM
Sunday

THAT would be 'poetic justice' and a "2nd Amendment Solution" !

Easterncedar

(5,532 posts)
11. C'mon. The oil companies do it
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:33 PM
Sunday

We just interdict shipments that are going anywhere but Texas, and the oil companies set up the trade. Chevron is the company currently importing Venezuelan crude, I think?

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