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Chasstev365

(7,128 posts) Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:51 AM Sunday

If Trump gets a boost in the polls from his latest illegal, criminal action:

I'm going to lose it!

As stupid as the American people are, please tell me they're not going to fall for this too.

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If Trump gets a boost in the polls from his latest illegal, criminal action: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Sunday OP

he totally will . Every magat is in a cult. they will love this despite saying they love mucifer Sunday #1

Do you really need to wonder if? ABC123Easy Sunday #2

He might get a little bump, but videohead5 Sunday #3

W saw his poll numbers jump into the 90s overnight for failing to protect our country on 9-11. Midnight Writer Sunday #4

9/11 was the worst attack on the country ever karynnj Sunday #6

That's such a horrible comparison JI7 Sunday #8

Even if he initially does, it will likely fade karynnj Sunday #5

Well, it won't take as long as the Epstein files to find out. RoeVWade Sunday #7

It doesn't really matter. In the end people will think about their own economic situation JI7 Sunday #9

Venezuelans living in America might give him a boost. Baitball Blogger Sunday #10

NOT going to happen Wiz Imp Sunday #11

mucifer

(25,526 posts)

1. he totally will . Every magat is in a cult. they will love this despite saying they love

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:54 AM

Sunday

trump because he's anti war. The msm is white washing it already.

ABC123Easy

(52 posts)

2. Do you really need to wonder if?

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:31 AM

Sunday

videohead5

(2,873 posts)

3. He might get a little bump, but

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:33 AM

Sunday

It will be short lived.

Midnight Writer

(25,147 posts)

4. W saw his poll numbers jump into the 90s overnight for failing to protect our country on 9-11.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:06 AM

Sunday

karynnj

(60,783 posts)

6. 9/11 was the worst attack on the country ever

Reply to Midnight Writer (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:42 AM

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and there was a rally around the President response.

There was no similar event with Venezuela. Drugs entering the country are dealt with by intercepting them, not regime change in a country that probably is not even high on a ranked list of the source of drugs.

In 2001, the invasion of Afghanistan was polled as being favored by 90 percent of the country. The invasion later of Iraq was favored by around half of that based on W's lies. So soon after 9/11, the fear generated by claiming Iraq had WMD was high for people who both believed Iraq was a terrorist state and possessed them.

There was no similar fear of Venezuela, which did not retaliate after we blew up boats in their water or international waters.

JI7

(93,220 posts)

8. That's such a horrible comparison

Reply to Midnight Writer (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:58 AM

Sunday

karynnj

(60,783 posts)

5. Even if he initially does, it will likely fade

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:32 AM

Sunday

My guess is the more he does there, the more potential of blow back. One of the strongest things he ran on both times was no foreign wars.

Consider how unpopular all the occupations in the middle east were both there and at home. In the middle east, both Afghanistan and Iraq were justified by Bush by citing 9/11. Here, it is MUCH weaker to link it to drug trafficking especially when Trump just pardoned the former president of Honduras, who was convicted for that.

I know that many expats who fled Venezuela left because of Chavez and Maduro and I know many liked Trump even before this. However, long term their opinion will depend on what follows. I doubt many who didn't want Maduro would not be happy with a dictatorship that allows the US oil companies to exploit the country.

RoeVWade

(826 posts)

7. Well, it won't take as long as the Epstein files to find out.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:56 AM

Sunday

I consider it a one issue vote at the moment. It may be enough for some people to change their opinion to positive, but there are also a lot of people who will consider the whole Trump tapestry before changing their opinion one way or another.

JI7

(93,220 posts)

9. It doesn't really matter. In the end people will think about their own economic situation

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:00 AM

Sunday

And they might become more angry if things aren't going well for them since they will want to know why are we focusing on these things outside our country when people need help here.

Baitball Blogger

(51,738 posts)

10. Venezuelans living in America might give him a boost.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:17 AM

Sunday

So, I wonder. Without Maduro in their country of birth, do you think they'll leave?

Wiz Imp

(9,006 posts)

11. NOT going to happen

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:07 AM

Sunday

A significant majority of the US opposes any action in Venezuela
https://www.gelliottmorris.com/p/americans-do-not-want-war-with-venezuela

Americans do not want war with Venezuela
Military intervention in the country is even more unpopular than Trump’s tariffs and health care cuts
G. Elliott Morris
Jan 04, 2026
The president quickly ran into a few problems:

3. By a 4:1 ratio, polls show the American people oppose the use of military force for regime change in Venezuela — including the strike that led to Maduro’s capture over the weekend.

Based on the public polling data, it’s clear that Trump’s invasion of, and intent to manage a petro-corporatocracy in, Venezuela is yet another example of him prioritizing the interests of his friends and a narrow coalition of voters over the majority of Americans. Most Americans, by a 25-50 point margin (depending on question wording), oppose war with Venezuela

I. Polls show people don’t want military action in Venezuela

In all polls I could find that were (a) about U.S. military intervention in Venezuela and (b) conducted over the last six months, no matter what question was asked, a majority of American adults opposed military action. The size of the gap between “Oppose” and “Support” for these questions ranged from 27 to 46 points, depending on question wording.

To put that in context, a -37 net approval for a presidential act would make the invasion even more unpopular than Trump’s budget act from last Summer, which was then one of the most unpopular laws ever passed.

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