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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrying Maduro in the US will involve some interesting legal questions on head of state immunity
Professor Vladek has a some good analysis on any possible trial of Maduro in US courts. There is an issue of head of state immunity.
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https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/200-five-questions-about-the-maduro?r=4obbfg&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay&triedRedirect=true
On head-of-state immunity, theres no doubt that, as one district court put it in 1994, A head-of-state recognized by the United States government is absolutely immune from personal jurisdiction in United States courts unless that immunity has been waived by statute or by the foreign government recognized by the United States. The issue here is recognition. Unlike Noriega in Panama (who was at most the de facto head of state), Maduro lawfully served as interim president after Hugo Chávezs 2013 death; and he was formally recognized as the Venezuelan head of state for yearsby both the Obama and Trump administrationsafter his 2013 election. Its only since 2019, after serious concerns arose regarding the integrity of the 2018 Venezuelan elections, that the United States has refused to recognize Maduro as the lawful head of statein a context in which, unlike what was true for Noriega, Maduro would have at least some claim that he was lawfully serving in that position under Venezuelan law. In other words, Maduro was, for quite some time, recognized as Venezuelas head of state. And even during the period in which he wasnt, he has at least a plausible claim that he was nevertheless entitled to immunity. Either way, that question seems much closer here than in the Noriega case (or others).
And even if courts ultimately reject head-of-state immunity, they may still conclude that Maduro is insulated from liability for official acts, especially in light of the Supreme Courts embrace of a version of constitutional official act immunity for President Trump in Trump v. United States. In its 2012 ruling in Yousuf v. Samantar, the Fourth Circuit carefully analyzed both of these immunity doctrines before holding that they did not apply to a high-ranking official in Somalia during the military regime of General Mohamed Barre. But there are lots of grounds on which Maduros arguments could well be strongerincluding his higher status; the extent to which the acts hes charged with are not as obviously violations of jus cogens norms of international law; and so on.
All of this is to say that the prosecution will be no slam dunk, especially with regard to the charges against Maduro himself. That may not matter in the grander scheme of things, but its yet another way in which Fridays operation raises more questions than it answers.
This will be an interesting trial that is NOT a slam dunk
returnee
(826 posts)Discovery could be interesting.
Bobstandard
(2,185 posts)Who wants to bet Maduro is gonna commit suicide or get shanked by a mentally disturbed inmate, or-and this is more likely-Maduro will hook Trump up with all the gold hes stolen and stashed in Cuba and get a pardon or free pass to exile in Dubai.
underpants
(195,011 posts)Retrograde
(11,376 posts)"Act first, think later" seems to be the modus operandi of this gang.
malaise
(292,926 posts)That is all
unblock
(55,935 posts)that presidential immunity pertains to Donnie only and in no way relates to other heads of state.
I await their twisted logic and far-flung historical citations with great antici
pation.
iemanja
(57,411 posts)The one Trump pardoned. I suppose that was on drug trafficking charges into the US. It depends if similar evidence exists against Maduro.
Bobstandard
(2,185 posts)In the same way they didnt want Jack to testify in public, they wont want Maduro talking. Hes a dictator. Dictators dont want dictators talking inside baseball.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,072 posts)trump is an idiot and is giving Maduro some good material to use if this case goes to trial
Trump may have blown up Maduro case in private chat with Morning Joe: legal expert
— Anne Grete (GoogeliArt) ð¦ðPD (@googeliart.bsky.social) 2026-01-06T15:10:14.871Z
www.rawstory.com/trump-s-priv...
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-s-private-remarks-to-morning-joe-could-blow-up-case-against-marduro-legal-expert/
The "Morning Joe" host revealed Tuesday morning that he'd spoken to the president the previous day, and he told viewers that Trump boasted that the U.S. was going to take over the South American nation's oil production.
"'Joe, the difference between Iraq and this is that [George W.] Bush didn't keep the oil we're going to keep the oil,'" Scarborough said Trump told him, "and to underline his point, Trump said his comments were no longer on background and said, 'In 2016, I said we should have kept the oil, it caused a lot of controversy. Well, we should have kept the oil.'".....
Those comments, along with similar statements Trump has publicly made, could strengthen Maduro's defense as he fights prosecution in New York on drug and weapons charges, according to MS NOW's legal analyst Lisa Rubin.
"Barry Pollack, who had represented Julian Assange and now represents Maduro, previewed that he is going to make motions to dismiss on the basis of not only head of state immunity, but about the legality of the abduction in the first place," Rubin said.
"And I think that Mr. Pollack would have been very interested in the conversation you had with the president yesterday. Had that conversation taken place before the court appearance, I expect that comments like that would have been addressed, and he would have told the judge this was pretextual."
"This was a military operation all along," Rubin said, anticipating Maduro's defense. "It was always about the oil that the president intends to keep, and not about an indictment or a superseding indictment of Nicolás Maduro, who has been under indictment in the United States already for five-plus years."
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,072 posts)Expect the Venezuelan leader to raise an immunity defense to his criminal charges. Dont expect the Trump treatment.
Why the Maduro case will have us talking about presidential immunity again
— (@vitaminrush.bsky.social) 2026-01-07T06:00:17+00:00
https://www.vitaminrush.com/284463/why-the-maduro-case-will-have-us-talking-about-presidential-immunity-again/
Immunity is likely to be among the defenses that Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro will raise in a bid to â¦
https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/nicolas-maduro-court-new-york-presidential-immunity
But Maduro wont necessarily benefit from that long-recognized form of immunity. The Department of Justice would likely argue that hes an illegitimate leader and therefore isnt entitled to such immunity. The indictment refers to Maduro as having previously been the Venezuelan president and by having remained in power despite losses in recent elections became the de facto but illegitimate ruler of the country.
The foreign immunity issue surfaced decades ago in the prosecution of Panamas Manuel Noriega, whose case may be the most similar to Maduros. Ruling against Noriega on appeal after his conviction, a federal appeals court panel noted that the Florida federal trial judge presiding over Noriegas case rejected his head-of-state immunity claim because the U.S. never recognized him as Panamas legitimate ruler.
Noriega has cited no authority that would empower a court to grant head-of-state immunity under these circumstances, the 11th Circuit appellate panel wrote in its 1997 ruling.
Yet theres at least one factor that could distinguish the Noriega case in Maduros favor. The circuit panel further noted that Noriega never served as the constitutional leader of Panama, while the U.S. seems to concede that Maduro was at least at one point Venezuelas legitimate leader. That alone might not be enough for Maduro to win immunity, but his legitimacy and who legally gets to decide that legitimacy may play a key role in this litigation.
Maduros case is proceeding in New York, which falls under a different federal circuit, the 2nd, so the 11th Circuit ruling in Noriegas case isnt binding in New York. But New York courts can still cite it to inform their rulings in Maduros case.
Ultimately, the Supreme Court that granted Trump broad immunity may decide this or other aspects of Maduros prosecution, or both.