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RoeVWade

(826 posts) Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:26 AM Saturday

The supporters of the intervention in Venezuela can answer this question? (there will be outside of DU most likely)

If Trump has acquired any semblance of some moral center, what the hell is going on of his rhetoric with Zelinsky and Putin? It's completely backwards. And anyone with half a brain knows it.

This is just more shit, but not sure what the angle will be. And that's regardless of outcome.

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The supporters of the intervention in Venezuela can answer this question? (there will be outside of DU most likely) (Original Post) RoeVWade Saturday OP

Mofos in free republikkk will try to answer BSDemon Saturday #1

As I asked in another post, displacedvermoter Saturday #2

Most definitely! RoeVWade Saturday #3

Not a fan of (another) US intervention RoseTrellis Saturday #4

That tweet is great. If only tRump wasn't the deranged wannabe dictator he is, if only Epstein never met him, if only Timeflyer Saturday #6

Great summary RoseTrellis Saturday #7

Yes, maybe. Big maybe when tRump is involved. Timeflyer Saturday #8

which of these does not apply to Trump? Stardust Mirror Saturday #10

All of it! RoseTrellis Saturday #11

So now Canada snowybirdie Saturday #5

Trump doesn't gain any form of "moral center" - he let a drug-dealing Latin American president out of US prison muriel_volestrangler Saturday #9

BSDemon

(100 posts)

1. Mofos in free republikkk will try to answer

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:28 AM

Saturday

with the BS we already know

displacedvermoter

(4,138 posts)

2. As I asked in another post,

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:30 AM

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how do they justify this in light of the pardon of former president of Honduras, for as bad or even far worse narco crimes?

RoeVWade

(826 posts)

3. Most definitely!

Reply to displacedvermoter (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:37 AM

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nt*

RoseTrellis

(108 posts)

4. Not a fan of (another) US intervention

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:41 AM

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Here’s some information
Besides the current administration bleating about narco-terrorism, there is widespread international agreement that Maduro stole the 2024 election.

Edmundo González was recognized as the true winner of the contested 2024 election by the following countries…
• Peru: First to recognize (Jul 30, 2024).
• Argentina, Uruguay, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Panama: Recognized as president-elect (early Aug 2024).
• Canada: Formal recognition as president-elect (Jan 2025).
• Paraguay: Recognized as president-elect (early Jan 2025).
• Italy: Recognized as president-elect (Nov 2024).
• United States: Recognized as winner (Aug 2024) and president-elect (Nov 2024 onward).
• Others: Partial support from EU Parliament, some Latin American nations; calls for transparency from Brazil, Colombia, Mexico.

Here’s who supported Maduro…
• Russia
• China
• Iran
• Cuba
• Nicaragua,
• North Korea

Here’s some of the accusations against him…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Maduro#Controversies

Disputed presidency
Dictatorship accusations
Conspiracy theories
Censorship
Human rights
Judicial independence
Alleged drug trafficking and money laundering incidents
Narcosobrinos incident
Sanctions against Tareck El Aissami and Diosdado Cabello
Homophobic statements
Hunger crisis
Corruption

I agree that the US should stay the fuck out!
Let’s hear what a Venezuelan-American has to say, it’s worth a listen…

Link to tweet

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Timeflyer

(3,683 posts)

6. That tweet is great. If only tRump wasn't the deranged wannabe dictator he is, if only Epstein never met him, if only

Reply to RoseTrellis (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:23 AM

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he hadn't just pardoned former Honduran president Hernandez, if only there was no oil there, if only the powerful didn't feel the world and its people were there to exploit, if only...damn.

RoseTrellis

(108 posts)

7. Great summary

Reply to Timeflyer (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:28 AM

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I agree with all you have said. Can we agree that maybe Venezuela could be better off with Maduro gone?

Timeflyer

(3,683 posts)

8. Yes, maybe. Big maybe when tRump is involved.

Reply to RoseTrellis (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 11:20 AM

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Stardust Mirror

(675 posts)

10. which of these does not apply to Trump?

Reply to RoseTrellis (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 01:31 PM

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Disputed presidency
Dictatorship accusations
Conspiracy theories
Censorship
Human rights
Judicial independence
Alleged drug trafficking and money laundering incidents
Homophobic statements
Hunger crisis
Corruption

RoseTrellis

(108 posts)

11. All of it!

Reply to Stardust Mirror (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 01:36 PM

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All of that! But we are talking about Venezuela here and Maduro.

snowybirdie

(6,567 posts)

5. So now Canada

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:11 AM

Saturday

Can invade Mar a Lago, size Trump and Melanoma and fly them to Ottawa for trial. Am I missing something?

muriel_volestrangler

(105,574 posts)

9. Trump doesn't gain any form of "moral center" - he let a drug-dealing Latin American president out of US prison

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 11:30 AM

Saturday

who had actually been convicted in a US court. Now he's killed over 100 people so that he can get hold of an alleged other (and his wife, for some reason). I don't think any DUer will see this as "moral" (there are a few cheering it, because they hate Maduro, but even they won't pretend this was a "moral" act - just a "USA! Tough! Kill!" act - which a few DUers actually like as a concept).

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