Trump had motive and opportunity.
And would think nothing of killing a friend and business partner to save himsel.

Epstein must have felt that he could always pull the strings and get out of prison? He had always done it before. But, he was sent to prison during Trump's presidency. With the documents made public today, it looks much more likely that he was murdered.

… and who’d be most likely to be desperate enough to shut him up that way? The cohort who’s avoided that so far.

It doesn't fit his personality profile.

And plus - who did it benefit?

It is had been rumored she was involved in the pedo ring, she and Ghislaine Maxwell
interviewed girls. It was said Ivanna was going to be questioned by the police.

until recently. On DU of course.

It never stops.

Especially when Trump dumped her in a grave on one of his golf courses.

But yes, more info is coming out about her role in the pedo ring.

The autopsy said blunt force trauma to her torso was cause of death.
How hard do you have to fall to cause that kind of damage and death?

Maybe it is all legit, but we at least have to ask the question especially in
light of some of the recent reports.

Yes YD it never stops.
The depravity has no bottom.

If true she's just as evil as her ex.

It must be true.

But seriously. I think this is new information just coming out.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

........about Trump, Mar-a-Largo, the files, other participants (both victims and old man pedophiles) and hush money, the suspicions will solidify into hard facts and headlines.

that was not on his official published schedule? Might be relevant given that Barr was ultimately responsible, as AG and head of the DOJ, both for Epstein's presence in that jail and for the jail itself.

And notice that Barr and Epstein had a connection independent of The Dotard. Barr's father was headmaster of an exclusive/expensive NYC private school that hired Epstein -- who had no college degree and no teaching experience -- to teach math to teens. Epstein then gained a reputation for inappropriately socializing with his teen students, quelle surprise. Also around the time of the hire, Barr's father published a horny/pervy sci-fi novel whose plot involved child sex slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations

What strange coincidences...

Seems I read that somewhere?

Closer to an urban myth as of now.

Take a lot of planning, according to Malcolm Nance.

They needed to be kept quiet…

She was by far and away the most outspoken and threatening victim out there, and she sued people and testified and gave interviews over like 15 years. Seems doubtful she was suddenly a big concern in 2025. If she was going to be whacked, it logically would've occurred long before that

Also, her SIL has said her suicide tracks with her circumstances:

Sort of like the mysterious falling off of a balcony in Russia.

He had mountains of "get out of jail free" cards and I believe his appeal to get out on bail was still pending.

I'd sooner believe he was still alive and in hiding/exile somewhere before I believed he killed himself. I'd sooner believe he was in witness protection before I believed he killed himself.

I think it was on Bluesky but not sure now. It was saying 'Epstein Island sold to Mid East businessman' named Haadid Nahikil Muhssef. (I confess it took me a minute to catch that joke) and a photo of a man with a turban(?) and long white beard. But the face was very clearly Jeffrey Epstein under the 'disguise'. Alluding to just what you said--he's in witness protection somewhere, not dead.
I found a link---
[link:https://genesiustimes.com/epstein-island-sold-to-wealthy-middle-eastern-businessman-haadid-nahkil-muhssef/

His "clients" are super wealthy and wouldn't want to give up what Epstein supplied.

His supposedly dead body lying on a gurney for the cameras, just happened to conveniently reveal his face. If dead, the sheet would be over his face.

Wealthy pedophiles have no reason to kill themselves. He could be on any number of yachts in any sea currently indulging in his favorite pastimes. Girls and women are trafficked every day.

both guards just so happen to have fallen asleep
during that short period of time ?

Sounds like the plot hole out of a really dumb movie. No one would buy it.

Amazing set of coincidences.

I have always assumed that was a GIVEN

And what a coincidence, that the video had a little bit of glitch and didn’t show the fact that someone came in and hang the mother fucker… it did not take Colombo to figure this one out

Epstein died while Trump was President and Barr ran the DOJ. The stuff we are learning about Trump's connection to Epstein now, the more I think that Trump needed him gone.

He had so much compiled against every person who was involved for or against him. I still think that there are more copies than what they know of, and which they redact religiously.

she's got a "dead woman" switch. They touch her and everyone blows up.

Maybe before making up our minds we should see if the letter is true, if it's not who faked it, why it was in the files, etc.

Just asking....

Like planting a fake letter, that will muddy up things, in hopes that people will start losing trust, and start believing the whole "hoax" thing. At the very least, this is a distraction.

The agency is compromised.

Coincidence? Rumor has it that a couple of russkis witnessed the whole incident.

Simple details made suicide impossible for me to believe. First he was as much a narcissist as Trump. Narcissists rarely kill themselves.

Second, he knew too much about Trump while he had all the resources available to the President of the United States. Think through that for just a moment.

Then the strange issues with the guards who were not there and the cameras that were expertly disabled for just the right time period.

Then the motive. Epstein had the goods on Trump and probably telegraphed that to him.

The autopsy revealed things that wouldn’t have been there in a simple jailhouse self hanging.

It goes on and on.

This is a demonstration of Occam’s Razor. When everything is brushed away and only one thing remains then that must be the truth.

This is a very Sherlockian story.

When I saw that Epstein had said in an email that Trump was the dog who didn’t bark I almost spit my coffee across the room. How unintentionally apropos.

But how normal that this instinctively Machiavellian man Epstein would see what Trump’s moves would be and that he was a walking dead man.

Personality profile +
all the other coincidences +
who did it benefit?

He DID know too much and was probably prepared to spill it.

Not only is donnie a rapist and a pedophile, he’s likely also a murderer.

When in a liquid state, of course.

indicate/refer to a 'return' date.

(In any event - such an obvious and incredible 'hack job' - that it never warranted any consideration in the first place. I would be embarrassed pointing to this as evidence or 'indicating' anything at all.)

and I don't think Ivana's "fall" was "accidental" either.

Disgusting, isn't he.

knew too much about some very powerful people.

Never have believed that. Much more likely to be murder, with Krasnov having the most to gain by Epstein being dead.

... the "letter" is fake, they said. First of all, the postmark is, what did they say, three days after his death? Means nothing, to me... are there post offices in prisons, to officially postmark letters? I had no idea! Why do prisoners get their mail postmarked so quickly and efficiently? AND, okay... their "handwriting experts" say it wasn't Epstein's writing. THEN, considering how the letter reads - the subject and details - they should know who the "forger" is, by now. I would have ordered DNA testing IMMEDIATELY. Letters are like crime scenes... licking the stamp, the flap, and whatever is inside!

took him down, and to do that she studied him for years.

I tend to accept her opinion. YMMV.

... still, I think it's worth investigating who sent the letter.

Generally when someone dares to question Trump's official story re: Epstein's "suicide," a throng of finger-waggers appears to scold, belittle, and humiliate.

I believe such a plot would involve coconspirators at many levels, right down to other prisoners and individual guards on duty that night.
I also believe there's more to this story than what we know so far.

A secret is only good until two people know it and it's just a matter of time before someone comes forward

Link to tweet

Spending the remainder of his life in prison as a sex offender is a big reason. Why would anyone want to continue living under such circumstances?

But I'm continually amazed at the people facing life in prison or even the death penalty who turn themselves in or allow themselves to be taken into custody without a fight.

I guess I'm just amazed at the people who are obedient and freely comply when their lives are effectively over.