Fellow Jailbirds and all

And stated it was false this afternoon

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That is the question

When they released it, it was accompanied by a statement that many of the statements included within it were proven false.

So they released this letter, waited for people to read it and believe it, then proved it false. And there does seem to be evidence to prove it is not from Epstein:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/12/23/major-epstein-files-release-doj-says-letter-to-larry-nassar-mentioning-trump-is-fake/

If this happens a few times, people will stop believing anything in the files is true.

Sheesh

Hopefully it won't work this time.

Smoke and mirrors. Muddy waters. Muck and mire lit by a gaslight.

Pretty soon no one will know what to believe.

And again, stop insulting everyone. Have some civility.

It is based on DoJ leadership opinion and nothing else.

I immediately questioned the Nasser notecard. In it Epstein supposedly hinted he was taking the short ride home, aka suicide. I can't convince myself he committed suicide.

A suicide note from Epstein. I think trump is worrying about being accused of murdering him.

I have read that they are "releasing" materials that were not in the Epstein files and have nothing to do with him, just to muddy the waters.

Truth is the first target of a despotic regime.

That is why everything is "fake news", why scientists, doctors and military professionals are being attacked and sidelined, why the lies gush from the White House like a firehose of bullshit.

You say it's DUers that should have been "fact checking". Do you think that ought to be aimed at the media who have the actual abilities to fact check, rather than DUers who were just reposting what the media had?

If you feel you had "egg on your face", then by your standard, you should have been fact checking too.

Without putting any references of fact that it is false. Talk about misinformation!

Put up or shut up if you can’t prove it is false.

No professional forensic analysis

They say the handwriting doesn’t match but they don’t show samples, they say the addy is wrong but don’t show anything

I trust the FBI about as far as I can throw them, which means, not at all

He could of written the nascar letter and someone else actually mailed it after his death

I’m not saying for sure either way but I trust nothing from the current administration

Though on this particular letter, I do tend to lean towards Julie K. Brown's assessment.

It’s like asking “Prove that God doesn’t exist!”. Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?

In a fake letter? Doesn’t exactly help him

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All I've seen is that the FBI said that. The FBI has zero credibility. Regardless, it was released as part of the files. It's not a poster at DU's responsibility to verify that info posted on the DOJ website is true. As long as the info is sourced to the DOJ, then any beef should be with the DOJ, NOT DU posters.

but that wasn't available earlier in the day. Same with some of the other material released.

I agree with going back to one's post if something has come out since to invalidate it, but I think we all are going to have to be wary for a while as MSM (and others) hopefully fact-check some of it.

The suicide note that they need to prove that he wasn't killed?

UPDATE: CNN confirms that "the envelope [holding the Epstein-Nassar Note] was sent from the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City [where Epstein was being held] to Nassar"—*and* got vetted by federal officials.

Which explains the Virginia postmark (where the FBI is).

This story was all over the place all morning.

And now you’re mad at people for not fact checking it? Why didn’t you fact check it before you passed it on?

In other words, the files are a repository for every bit of possible evidence discovered. So everything contained is not vetted and when bits and pieces are released, we don’t get the information about that process.

Basically the zone is being flooded.

and FDT

This allows others to vet the post for validity.

And we/they are often reluctant to correct posts which are nonsense even when it is pointed out repeatedly by many members of DU.

But we can edit posts post-facto, which another forum I use does not enable you to do.

Given the speculation and personal opinion here, I can think of worse than trusting a bit much. Because we can later "splain the goof.

The Creative Speculation forum was retired.

Where else can one go?

Who benefits?

is 62 years old, and serving his sentence at a prison in Lewisburg, PA. Have to say that the creator of that Epstein letter, now judged to be fake, knew him. So, who would fake such a letter and why?