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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConservatives Have Been Having a 93-year long Hissy-Fit
It hasn't stopped since FDR and the New Deal and later, desegregation put them over the edge.
Trump is the tantrum personified.
It's humiliating that the country tolerates this.
Initech
(107,461 posts)These turds shouldn't be celebrated in any way, they should be flushed from society.
FakeNoose
(40,218 posts)Ol' Rush was the paid mouthpiece of Richard Mellon Scaife. 'Memba him? He was a old-money ultra-conservative asshole who bought up radio, TV stations and newspapers to broadcast his message of hatred for the lower classes. (Also a lot of hatred for the liberals as well.)
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mellon_Scaife
Rushie-boy did as he was told and he became exceedingly wealthy for it.
The landscape of today's bitter conservatism is like an ugly skyline created by different twisted architects including Reagan and this Scaife creature mentioned above. But Limbaugh stands out as setting the standard for the depths of depravity that currently rules conservatism. The first Democratic president elected after Limbaugh's national syndication was Bill Clinton. I mark the tragic suicide of Vince Foster as the point at which conservatives habitually led scared, sheltered, whites down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories. What would have previously been dismissed as babblings of some rando crank, Limbaugh took to the national airwaves daily from 1993 up to his death preaching theories on how Foster was murdered by the Clintons, namely Hillary. And that was just the beginning.
The conservative media outlets and mouthpieces that flourished after Limbaugh (including Fox News) had to emulate his lack of character and integrity if they wanted to hone in on any segment of the conservative audience of which he was the rat king. Because of Limbaugh, the only facts that mattered to conservatives were the facts they want to believe. It also led the voices taken on by a.m. radio copycats dotting rural territory coast-to-coast.
Devoted republican voters today didn't get here without being ginned up into this frenzy of lies, anger and violence by Limbaugh. If it wasn't him, it may have been someone else, just as if there was no trump, maybe Sarah Palin would be president (not really though).
Initech
(107,461 posts)But nope. It's been years, decades in the making. People like Rush Limbaugh and Jimmy Swaggart were the OGs of the kind of madness that the modern conservative party has been flinging for decades now. Many of the current people have been brainwashed by the previous generation.
Limbaugh / Swaggart brainwashed the Fox News generation. The Fox News generation brainwashed the Infowars generation. And who knows what the next generation after that will bring? I would like to think it stops here, but there are *ALWAYS* people like Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, and Rupert Murdoch around who profit off the lowest common denominator. ALWAYS.
BaronChocula
(4,042 posts)All these soulless creeps give each other oxygen.
when Reagan was in office. Remember the contract on America, at least thats what I called it. Remember Gingrich and his gang? That was the beginning, but it wasnt called maga .
Initech
(107,461 posts)"2025 America is 1939 Germany but with hats"
It's like the old Simpsons adage - the Trump administration is the same garbage, but with a new hat.
electric_blue68
(25,960 posts)Limbaugh did live in NYC, then moved to Florida.
I don't know where Mike Savage broadcasted from.
All were despicable, horrid human beings!
I listened at times to keep an eye on them.
NotHardly
(2,632 posts)OMGWTF
(5,016 posts)They are PAB and need to evolve or go extinct.
Mysterian
(6,177 posts)convincing gullible Americans to support the puppets of the billionaires.
yobrault1
(197 posts)The difference between now and 1930s and 40s, is that we can get our news in a multitude of ways if you want to know the truth, you can find it. You just have to be willing to use your critical thinking skills and find out as much as you can on any subject the ones that choose not to do this or the ones that will be left behind and there will be a lot of them.
Mysterian
(6,177 posts)The mass media is controlled by right-wing billionaires.
https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media
A HERETIC I AM
(24,846 posts)The proof that conservative political and economic ideology is not popular with the majority is that the last time we had what today would be considered a democratic socialist (FDR) as president, the American people elected him 4 times in a row.
What was the conservative reaction to that?
The 22nd amendment to the constitution.
The term hissy fit is apt, because the conservative powers that be realized that they couldnt allow that to happen again.
Bernie Sanders nailed it almost 20 years ago when he said that if conservatives tried to run on the things that they actually do and promote, i.e. Lowering taxes for the wealthy, reducing social services, making life more difficult for the everyday American, etc. They would never win a single fucking election.
So what do they do instead? They make up bullshit arguments that dont really affect peoples lives. Like abortion, guns, gay rights, a secular, science based education as being bad and of course, the latest bogeymen, transgender people and immigrants.
Ive said this before. They know goddamn well theyre not popular. Their ideas suck and so the only way they can win elections, particularly national ones, is by cheating. Thats it.
Its also why theyre so popular with poorly educated people, because those people are easily convinced that, as LBJ indicated, all they have to be is convinced that theres a lesser person threatening their way of life, not only will they vote for you, theyll let you pick their pockets
popsdenver
(1,569 posts)The Republicans and especially Corporations have LOATHED FDR forever. They were all in on the Great Depression that they had created to crush the 99%.
The Gilded Age and their Robber Barrons didn't succeed back then, so they did it all over again.
We now have a NEW expanded set of Republican Robber Barrons, and this time they are pulling all stops to succeed.....
We all will be reduced to fighting for our daily food, (Steinbecks GRAPES OF WRATH) and they will have succeeded.....
They are almost all the way there already folks.....AND..........
The Dems were walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, and were oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...
(Pun Intended)
yobrault1
(197 posts)His skin colour being in that office put them over the edge. If he had been anything but a straight white male, it wouldve put them over the edge. A woman, a person of colour even a person with disabilities wouldve put them over the edge. They are fucking evil. They want to destroy your country for their own greed and well-being. They dont give a shit about any anybody who is not a straight white male. What theyre allowing to happen to the people in your country makes me wanna vomit.
AllaN01Bear
(28,617 posts)electric_blue68
(25,960 posts)AllaN01Bear
(28,617 posts)ding , this .
Kid Berwyn
(23,011 posts)DU from 2013 (sorry, can't find an earlier version):
The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids, though.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3646515
love_katz
(3,201 posts)The comments on the old thread are worth reading.
Recommended.
orangecrush
(28,503 posts)It is the Businessmen's Plot.
It never died
It was exhumed by Reagan in the 80's and has been gaining ground steadily every since.
blue-wave
(4,825 posts)They called FDR every name in the book, including communist. In reality, FDR bailed their asses out by saving America and capitalism. They even tried to overthrow him but General Smedley Butler, who they attempted to recruit into their scheme, blew the whistle and the overthrow plan was foiled.
KPN
(17,145 posts)ultra-wealthy conservatives' reaction to FDR and his New Deal. Reagan gave things a huge boost by demonizing "government" as "the problem" and suggesting that good, hard working people were victimized by "welfare queens". Its been a steep, fast downhill from there.
Warpy
(114,397 posts)Fuck 'em.
Best thing for them and this country is to drive them back into the welcoming arms of their nasty little churches. They'll be happier there, disgusted with earth and bucking for heaven. The country will be better off when they go back to bake sales and being obnoxious on Xmas.
KPN
(17,145 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,321 posts)The plot planned to install retired Major General Smedley Butler as dictator of the United States.
The Business Plot, also called the Wall Street Putsch[1] and the White House Putsch, was a political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator.[2][3] Butler, a retired Marine Corps major general, testified under oath that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with him as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormackDickstein Committee"
Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
LymphocyteLover
(9,382 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(10,204 posts)As I have said, my very own grandmother called him 'that wild-eyed radical!'.
Some people just have no empathy or morals and we still allow them to think they are human.
Not sure why.
barbtries
(31,135 posts)by Heather Cox Richardson.
fucking republicans have been fucking with democracy since they called themselves Democrats.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/democracy-awakening-notes-on-the-state-of-america/38210544/?resultid=21803fc6-b6ca-4b38-8bcd-a3eaf57f3160#edition=66123373&idiq=62479698
a really good, concise history that's easy to read and well worth it.
electric_blue68
(25,960 posts)From a speech in 1980 to Evangelicals before Reagan spoke.
(my underline)
""Now many of our Christians have what I call the 'goo-goo' syndrome. Good Government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down"
(I think Thom Hartmann when on Air America played this clip, which how Iblearned about it)
Cirsium
(3,379 posts)That tantrum has been going on since colonial days. "Why can't we have our slaves?" "Why can't we steal that land west of the Appalachians?" "Why can't we kill people who are in our way?" "Why can't we dominate and exploit the entire hemisphere?"
Martin68
(27,083 posts)love_katz
(3,201 posts)AKA bigoted fascists and misogynistic, brainwashed into believing that they have the right to dominate the world, and plunder and expropriate all wealth and power, while destroying the life support systems of our planet without regulations or hindrance of any kind.
For a shorter description: greedy people for whom cruelty is the point. They think that they will benefit and will escape any consequences.
There's a reason why people vote for, donate to, and support the greed and destruction enacted into law by the Pukes: they believe that their angry, jealous, vengeful and mean spirited God loves them, and only them.
We were shouting the truth about Rump and company, and their Project 2025 agenda, but we were ignored.
For now, we're forced to live with the horrors and destruction. The people we need to focus on are the deluded folks who stayed home and sat on their hands, or threw away their power to create changes by engaging in a protest vote.
We have the collective power to change the future, because there's more of us than there are of them. We don't have the corporate owned McGreedia in our pocket, but we can reach out to friends and family directly and through social media. We can support our local Democratic Party, which is in fact, the only party whose policies actually are closer to supporting our values. The Puke party surely does not, and anything which hands power to them ends up hurting everyone who isn't rich, male, heterosexual and Christofascist.
Our task is to convince enough of the 90 million who couldn't be bothered to vote that their non-action put us where we are now, and that we will all do better by supporting the party which supports more of our values.
Ol Janx Spirit
(737 posts)...America, and I used to just think, 'what is wrong with you old lady?'
She was the first person that really introduced me to the conservative brain worm. She absolutely hated the New Deal. Otherwise she seemed nice and very normal.
It was my own grandmother that hated desegregation. I learned from her that you actually don't have to love just anyone that you are related to--unfortunately.
It wasn't until the ACA and the TEA Party that I really realized how deeply damaged conservatives were.
It has been a downward spiral from there. I've given up there being an actual bottom to this rabbit hole. It feels more like a black hole threatening to spaghettify and tear apart both our democracy and the way of life it has provided.
lonely bird
(2,778 posts)The Confederacy was conservative in nature.