Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,883 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:03 AM Dec 18

"I can't believe this is America": U.S. Veteran who voted for Trump says ICE arrest of his wife shattered everything he

https://wtfdetective.blog/veteran-cant-believe-america-ice-arrest/

“Why did you vote for him?” a member of Congress asked.

“Because I was an idiot,” the veteran replied. “Evangelical Christian people were lied to, if you really want to know the truth. And that’s exactly what happened.” He said he believed deportations would only target criminals, but instead his wife — someone devoted to serving others — was detained. “My wife and I, when we don’t work, we’re ministers. We help the needy. That’s what we do. And that’s who they’re arresting.”




122 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"I can't believe this is America": U.S. Veteran who voted for Trump says ICE arrest of his wife shattered everything he (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 18 OP
I congratulate him on getting exactly what he voted for. Orrex Dec 18 #1
+1 dalton99a Dec 18 #23
Yes, he got what he voted for Bettie Dec 18 #29
None are so blind as they who will not see Vogon_Glory Dec 18 #84
And exactly why he voted for him Mysterian Dec 18 #59
I remember the woman in Florida, whose husband was deported during Trump's first term, wailing, "He's not tblue37 Dec 18 #75
I wondered UpInArms Dec 18 #2
He'll still vote Republican in 26 and 28. Orrex Dec 18 #3
You can't cure UpInArms Dec 18 #5
I'm so over stupid... but I'm now believing there's no cure for evil. :( slightlv Dec 18 #87
Guaranteed.......... Bengus81 Dec 18 #17
Yea, no shit! Americans need to start seeing the light here bluestarone Dec 18 #47
He has a biblical duty to go be with his wife IbogaProject Dec 18 #19
Isn't that what usually makes someone regret their votes? Polybius Dec 19 #122
Americans do not have the intelligence, education, or morality to sustain a democracy. Irish_Dem Dec 18 #4
Sad, but true! nt pazzyanne Dec 18 #38
True indeed Hey Joe Dec 18 #50
Excellently stated. Irish_Dem Dec 18 #52
I'm very worried that that is correct. yardwork Dec 18 #55
It couldn't happen to him, so he didn't care, definition of a Republican Walleye Dec 18 #6
I mean, hey buddy, gab13by13 Dec 18 #7
The same old grift. "If you give me seed money, you will receive ten fold" Ray Bruns Dec 18 #13
You definitely exposed a crack in that guy's psyche. Omnipresent Dec 18 #78
He's not the sharpest pencil in the case. Squaredeal Dec 18 #8
His eraser is pretty worn down as well DaBronx Dec 18 #39
Anyone who voted for that con man is an idiot. Emile Dec 18 #9
Absolutely what part of "don't care about you" followed by Justice matters. Dec 19 #111
Good. Scrivener7 Dec 18 #10
Dumb ass malaise Dec 18 #11
It wasn't his fault. He didn't have enough money for cab fare. His tux was in the cleaners. IT WASN'T HIS FAULT! TheBlackAdder Dec 18 #54
Typical conservative republican. kellytore Dec 18 #12
"I was told this leopard was vegan... ybbor Dec 18 #14
So it was all a MAGA fun house until they came for your family eh? Tough shit.... Bengus81 Dec 18 #15
It's always about 'me' with these people. They have no EMPATHY. Joinfortmill Dec 18 #16
Where I grew up he would be called a dumb ass or stupid shit. twodogsbarking Dec 18 #18
He lied to himself. Blues Heron Dec 18 #20
He says, "80% of evangelical Christians were lied to." So, 20% were told the truth? Really? He is illogical. Doodley Dec 18 #21
Oh, they were lied too, all right: not only by the con-man Vogon_Glory Dec 18 #89
Kinda like reducing drug prices by 1200 percent. Thunderbeast Dec 18 #93
They help the needy? Really? How? Glaisne Dec 18 #22
"Evangelical Christian people were lied to" MrsCheaplaugh Dec 18 #24
That's what I struggle with. mwooldri Dec 18 #41
K&R UTUSN Dec 18 #25
Who could have guessed evolves Dec 18 #26
Boo hoo. C_U_L8R Dec 18 #27
dunno. I got a couple'a tots for the guy but no pears. Maybe you got a pear or two to inspire him 3Hotdogs Dec 19 #114
But seriously, you knew he was a rapist Johonny Dec 18 #28
Exactly. FalloutShelter Dec 18 #33
Maybe he'll remember that when he goes to vote for Trump again. durablend Dec 18 #30
Yes, you are an idiot. None of us want criminals on the street ecstatic Dec 18 #31
A lot of them wouldn't care if people were dying in the streets. haele Dec 18 #70
Too fucking bad, asshole. You are a disgrace to veterans everywhere. Aristus Dec 18 #32
Oh boo-hoo! qanda Dec 18 #34
. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 18 #35
Sigh, at this point I'm like... catbyte Dec 18 #36
Even us veterans can be stupid in spite of taking an oath to defend the Constitution and stupid violated his oath. Wonder Why Dec 18 #37
"Christians" who voted for the felon who cheated on his wife with a porn star Justice matters. Dec 19 #117
I hope we get his vote in the next election iemanja Dec 18 #40
That's on him to open his eyes and heart Keepthesoulalive Dec 18 #61
It isn't about placating him iemanja Dec 18 #64
When seeing a child crying and clinging to her parents Keepthesoulalive Dec 18 #67
You have ignored my points iemanja Dec 18 #92
I think about whether he has learned the stove is hot Keepthesoulalive Dec 18 #110
So you want him and other disaffected iemanja Dec 19 #115
They have been voting republican since the civil rights act Keepthesoulalive Dec 19 #119
He's a grown-ass man, in his 50s or 60s, judging by his appearance. hatrack Dec 18 #80
Irrelevant iemanja Dec 18 #91
Nice strawman . . . "The only REAL question is MY question." hatrack Dec 18 #96
It is the only question that matters iemanja Dec 19 #116
Trump's vileness and hideousness was all out in the open JI7 Dec 18 #42
It not only is America lonely bird Dec 18 #43
Good example of Timewas Dec 18 #44
You, a veteran, voted for a 5-time draft dodger, a man who called military niyad Dec 18 #45
Hear, hear! yardwork Dec 18 #56
I don't Rebl2 Dec 18 #46
Leopards Eating Faces Again Deep State Witch Dec 18 #48
Far too many people only saw what they wanted to see. "Believing is seeing" is its own punishment. patphil Dec 18 #49
Don't be a Sucker aeromanKC Dec 18 #51
FYI, Conservatives all believe that all immigrants are criminals. Jacson6 Dec 18 #53
Someone hit him with a clue-by-four several times sakabatou Dec 18 #57
A minister who "helps the needy" voting for Trump. These magats GoodRaisin Dec 18 #58
There is an old saying... purr-rat beauty Dec 18 #60
I can't believe you were stupid enough to vote for Trump. Martin68 Dec 18 #62
Cry me a f-ing river. It is okay when they are targeting other people.. helpisontheway Dec 18 #63
You voted for trash, don't be surprised when you get garbage in return. Initech Dec 18 #65
BELIEVE IT. What did he expect when B.See Dec 18 #66
Surprise, you're stupid!! n/t flvegan Dec 18 #68
Traitor Lies his GD Ugly Head OFF.. and this is Cha Dec 18 #69
One Vet to another. kairos12 Dec 18 #71
. Zelda_Orchid Dec 18 #72
Yes, he was lied to, but there are plenty of sources for accessing actual information. You don't have to tblue37 Dec 18 #73
Whelp, all I can say at this point is tell all your friends. meadowlander Dec 18 #74
Your vote not only fucked up your life, it fucked up the lives of people who knew better... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 18 #76
There's Really No Way Around It; Evangelical Christian in Ever-so-Many Cases Equates to "Hate Any Potential The Roux Comes First Dec 18 #77
Evangelical Christian twit should have paid more attention. Tactical Peek Dec 18 #79
Post removed Post removed Dec 18 #81
Good bye KS Toronado Dec 18 #82
This is Democratic Underground so of course we're anti-Trump mcar Dec 18 #83
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 18 #85
What do you suggest we discuss? mcar Dec 18 #86
"Evangelical Christian people were lied to" Conjuay Dec 18 #88
I don't want to hear it anymore Blaukraut Dec 18 #90
No sympathy. Fiddlelady11 Dec 18 #94
Lord I'm sick of these people Susan Calvin Dec 18 #95
they DID know who they were voting for Skittles Dec 18 #102
He's right. He said he's an Upthevibe Dec 18 #97
If he truly thought that the only ones to be deported tavernier Dec 18 #98
Hey dude, you bought it. Now you OWN it. calimary Dec 18 #99
Zero sympathy Betty Boom Dec 18 #100
how ANYONE can claim to be Christian and see value in DONALD FUCKING TRUMP Skittles Dec 18 #101
Yes, you were an idiot. underpants Dec 18 #103
This is the America THAT YOU VOTED FOR *DESPITE* BEING WARNED. RockRaven Dec 18 #104
My Favorite Letters: FAFO! ColoringFool Dec 18 #105
Getting woked the hard way can be quite painful. Oh well. Blues Heron Dec 18 #106
No sympathy. He was fine with it until the Magastapo was turned against his own family. Blumancru Dec 18 #107
One can't be both a Christian & a trumpster rustbeltvoice Dec 18 #108
Congratulations! You got what you wanted - Trump in the WH. Norrrm Dec 18 #109
A veteran who voted for a seditionist. Tells me everything I need to know about him. Scalded Nun Dec 19 #112
How did I, and many others, know that he was going to detain and deport anyone that is brown skinned, but not this idiot camartinwv Dec 19 #113
Hate it when they say they were lied to....Was Trump lying when he said he would be a dictator on day one? W T F Dec 19 #118
What is this guy's problem? DFW Dec 19 #120
Being an athiest, Old Crank Dec 19 #121

Bettie

(19,287 posts)
29. Yes, he got what he voted for
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:07 AM
Dec 18

and they weren't "lied to" that orange man and his minions told them exactly what they were going to do, he simply chose not to listen and to assume that the terrible things he was cheering for would somehow not impact him.

Vogon_Glory

(10,199 posts)
84. None are so blind as they who will not see
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:42 PM
Dec 18

Almost all the MAGA voters refused to see who they were voting for as well what they were voting for. My sympathy for them is paper-thin at best: they not only voted for Donald John but they took the rest of us with them.

When reason, logic, morality, and appeals to their higher selves fail like nine-pins, there’s always pain, and the wounds were self-inflicted.

tblue37

(68,198 posts)
75. I remember the woman in Florida, whose husband was deported during Trump's first term, wailing, "He's not
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 06:59 PM
Dec 18

hurting the people he's supposed to hurt!"

bluestarone

(21,207 posts)
47. Yea, no shit! Americans need to start seeing the light here
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 18

What pisses me off is they think it's ok to vote maybe against TSF, but then turn around and vote for Repubicon house and Senate members. WTF is wrong with these fuck heads??

Polybius

(21,517 posts)
122. Isn't that what usually makes someone regret their votes?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:11 AM
Dec 19

When it affects them personally?

Hey Joe

(411 posts)
50. True indeed
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:50 AM
Dec 18

Convenient consumerism, rampant greed, xenophobia and warm comforting lies have overtaken facts and objective reality to grease the skids of our downfall as a nation once revered but now disgraced.

gab13by13

(31,259 posts)
7. I mean, hey buddy,
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:33 AM
Dec 18

criminals have a right to due process also. What exactly do you preach when you do your ministering?

Omnipresent

(7,308 posts)
78. You definitely exposed a crack in that guy's psyche.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:13 PM
Dec 18

He probably never thought it through or he was for trump for other reasons.

Squaredeal

(709 posts)
8. He's not the sharpest pencil in the case.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:33 AM
Dec 18

And neither are most of Trump supporters. (America’s apex of its Bell Curve is only 98. The higher the IQ and education level, the more likely the voter is a Democrat. Even Fox News admits it.)

Emile

(40,656 posts)
9. Anyone who voted for that con man is an idiot.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:41 AM
Dec 18

My god, after what that idiot did his first four years they still voted.him.

Justice matters.

(9,411 posts)
111. Absolutely what part of "don't care about you" followed by
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:09 AM
Dec 19

"just want your vote" these morons didn't understand?

It just boggles the mind! They voted for a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex assaulter and insurrectionist liar with tens of thousands of documented lies who told them he doesn't care about them!

They are reaping what they have sown... as their cult said...

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
54. It wasn't his fault. He didn't have enough money for cab fare. His tux was in the cleaners. IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:12 PM
Dec 18

Doodley

(11,648 posts)
21. He says, "80% of evangelical Christians were lied to." So, 20% were told the truth? Really? He is illogical.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:19 AM
Dec 18

Vogon_Glory

(10,199 posts)
89. Oh, they were lied too, all right: not only by the con-man
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:51 PM
Dec 18

But also by themselves. Hillary Clinton didn’t force them to believe the con-man’s spiel. The “libs” at NBC didn’t force them to believe Donald John. George Soros didn’t force them to buy into MAGA BS: they chose to believe it themselves.

Thunderbeast

(3,774 posts)
93. Kinda like reducing drug prices by 1200 percent.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:37 PM
Dec 18

The pre-frontal cortex was unable overcome the instincts drumming in their heads from their brain stems.

Eat, breathe, reproduce... pretty much done.

Glaisne

(621 posts)
22. They help the needy? Really? How?
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:26 AM
Dec 18

How come he doesn't know that Trump and Republicans don't give a damn about the needy and work to make their lives worse? What a clueless dummy.

MrsCheaplaugh

(265 posts)
24. "Evangelical Christian people were lied to"
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:45 AM
Dec 18

They wanted to believe the lies, just like this nitwit. No surprise that rubes who already believe a dead man walked out of his tomb and the earth is 6000 years old would swallow more horse shit about Donald Trump loves America.

Now Stupid regrets his vote. A fat lot of good that does now.

mwooldri

(10,788 posts)
41. That's what I struggle with.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:10 AM
Dec 18

I could be naive but I feel Christians should at least know what Jesus is all about. DJT's message isn't Christian. But then the mitigating circumstances here are there are too many false preachers in the Christian community that are teaching falsehoods. Especially this "prosperity gospel" stuff. So if you have these false preachers leading their flock to DJT... I get it. It's not just DJT... It's the whole right wing so-called Evangelical community.

3Hotdogs

(15,035 posts)
114. dunno. I got a couple'a tots for the guy but no pears. Maybe you got a pear or two to inspire him
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:33 AM
Dec 19

on is ministering duties when he tells the sucke --- sorry parishioners about welcoming strangers and Mary and Joe not being treated too good in the town where they were strangers.

Johonny

(25,493 posts)
28. But seriously, you knew he was a rapist
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:06 AM
Dec 18

You knew he committed fraud, you knew about Jan 6th, you knew about him stealing stop secret documents, you knew about Epstein, you knew about the ten counts of obstruction of justice in the Russian investigation, there were two impeachment (2!), you knew about access Hollywood tape, you knew about his complete lack of a Covid vaccination plan, you knew all this and . . . What you decided not to know, because all this shit was out there. Fuck people like this.

FalloutShelter

(14,190 posts)
33. Exactly.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:26 AM
Dec 18

Jesus wept.
This was an easy test and this jerk failed.
Rapist, Traitor, Felon or Kamala Harris.
This was a layup pass-fail.
F-
Go directly to Hell.

ecstatic

(35,012 posts)
31. Yes, you are an idiot. None of us want criminals on the street
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:13 AM
Dec 18

But even I, as a fully documented, "natural born" American (with no ties to anyone undocumented that I'm aware of) understood what would be coming.

When you listen to magats, it always boils down to the same reasons. Rarely (if ever) do they mention crime. They were concerned about a hypothetical trans person joining a girls' soccer team, or they were full of jealousy when they heard about undocumented individuals (who literally have nothing) receiving a voucher to stay at a New York hotel on a freezing cold night. Sometimes they even throw in the nonsense excuse of wanting to stop abortion.

I wonder if the people who became radicalized when the undocumented were given temporary housing ever considered what it would look like if the undocumented, who were transported to New York under false pretenses, were not given housing and were instead left to starve and freeze on the street. Is that the type of country they want to live in?

That type of cruel approach is 100% out of step with biblical teaching, by the way. The Bible specifically references how people should treat foreigners.

haele

(15,090 posts)
70. A lot of them wouldn't care if people were dying in the streets.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 03:45 PM
Dec 18

Especially people who are living fairly comfortably but don't like that they still have to budget.
I mean, all those influencers and TV shows have working middle class folks like them able to just brunch at the coffee shop with friends every day, buy whatever they need for their Chi-Chi homemade dinners, or go out on a monthly date night - pay for a babysitter, dinner and movie - and still not have to worry about paying rent/mortgage, utilities, groceries, auto, insurance, medical bills, ect...
It's a matter of petulance for them. They aren't getting what they want, so f' helping lesser people who don't deserve the help anyway.
If they died in the street, it serves them right.

qanda

(10,434 posts)
34. Oh boo-hoo!
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:27 AM
Dec 18

You would still be supporting this monster if his actions didn't come to your front door.

Wonder Why

(6,556 posts)
37. Even us veterans can be stupid in spite of taking an oath to defend the Constitution and stupid violated his oath.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:47 AM
Dec 18

That makes it three times as bad.

Being stupid and voting for a monster.

Violating the oath he took.

Knowing that the Ugly Pig wanted to deport immigrants when his wife was one.

Justice matters.

(9,411 posts)
117. "Christians" who voted for the felon who cheated on his wife with a porn star
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:49 AM
Dec 19

and covered it up by signing checks to buy her silence before the election, no less.

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
40. I hope we get his vote in the next election
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:09 AM
Dec 18

Though many don't seem to want it. I for one would like to see the next President be a Democrat.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,121 posts)
61. That's on him to open his eyes and heart
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:59 PM
Dec 18

He would be the same asshole if it didn’t affect him. Placating him won’t change his core, only he can give a crap about something other than himself.

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
64. It isn't about placating him
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 02:10 PM
Dec 18

It’s about driving away voters, which is exactly what insulting them does. The result is another Republican administration, which isn’t a logical goal of Democrats. Yet people care more about anger and vengeance than winning. This is the continual response to disillusioned Trump voters, which suggests people either can’t control their emotions or don’t know how to win. Either way, the result is increased authoritarianism and death.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,121 posts)
67. When seeing a child crying and clinging to her parents
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 03:33 PM
Dec 18

As they are being handcuffed and taken away and that child is put in a cage with other children. Many never to be united, Tiki torches in Charlottesville, a grieving pregnant widow and so many other atrocities and you vote for him again. I will give you the same sympathy you gave others. If his wife was not a victim of Trumps cruelty he would vote the same. We’re winning elections without assholes like him because our voters are motivated. The majority of white men in the last elections we have had have voted for republicans. We need to motivate our base and to hell with the haters.

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
92. You have ignored my points
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:11 PM
Dec 18

You think it’s about whether he is a good person. That’s a question for his conscience and his god. What Democrats should care about is winning elections. If it’s up to the people who want retribution, we will lose in perpetuity and extend human suffering. It shouldn’t be a difficult decision.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,121 posts)
110. I think about whether he has learned the stove is hot
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:52 PM
Dec 18

He saw what happened the first term and learned nothing. Perhaps pain will teach him and I will not stop that learning nor will I make it hurt less. As adults we should learn from experience. After the fall of Germany during world war 2 many Germans still loved Hitler but they passed strict laws and made sure people learned history the good and the bad. After the civil war in the United States , we let them up easy and we are still seeing the south trying to rise again. Their identities are tied up with trump and the Republican Party, nothing said on democratic underground will change that.

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
115. So you want him and other disaffected
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:43 AM
Dec 19

Trump voters to continue to vote Republican. I’m sure if you have your way, they will. And so the Republicans will keep winning.

We get the government we deserve.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,121 posts)
119. They have been voting republican since the civil rights act
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:10 AM
Dec 19

They were not mistaken, they were prideful and hateful. Maybe if you speak in comforting language and tell the folks of West Virginia please vote for the democrats they may see the error of their votes. I will not give the oppressor a map, he must find his own way out. Because he would put me and those like me on a plane to nowhere and cheer as it takes off. I want to win therefore I bust my ass to get more and better democrats in office, I do not waste my time with collaborators .

hatrack

(64,268 posts)
80. He's a grown-ass man, in his 50s or 60s, judging by his appearance.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:24 PM
Dec 18

But he couldn't be bothered to pay attention, or (apparently) to learn anything at all about the asshole he voted for in 2024.

His decision came after ten full years of Trump's arrogance, rage, stupidity and corruption on full public political display, and after four full years of his shambolic performance as president with an insurrection as the cherry on top of the shit sundae.

Where was this guy between 2017 and 2021?!?

Now we're expected to hold his hand, and pat his head, and encourage him with cookies and fruit rollups to come with us to the nearest library in hope that he'll occasionally read a book or a fucking newspaper?

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
91. Irrelevant
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:06 PM
Dec 18

The only question is do you want the votes of disillusioned Trump voters or do you want to lose to the Republicans?

iemanja

(57,398 posts)
116. It is the only question that matters
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:48 AM
Dec 19

You want to indulge your anger. That doesn’t interest me. I care about winning the next presidential election, and that means not driving away voters.

JI7

(93,227 posts)
42. Trump's vileness and hideousness was all out in the open
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:15 AM
Dec 18

nobody lied to you. If anything you lie to yourself.

If this had not happened to his wife yet he would be cheering on what is happening to others.

lonely bird

(2,778 posts)
43. It not only is America
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:26 AM
Dec 18

It has always been America. Groups that come here in any significant number have always been crapped on and blamed for other people’s woes.

niyad

(129,607 posts)
45. You, a veteran, voted for a 5-time draft dodger, a man who called military
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:33 AM
Dec 18

members suckers and losers, a man who loves dictators, hates our allies, and is actively destroying that which you took an oath (with no expiration date) to defend. You ae beyond stupid, you are complicit.

Oh, and by the way, many of us out here strongly object to you reichwing evangelicals shoving your version of christianity down our throats, trying to force your version of shaaria law and living on the rest of us.

Rebl2

(17,413 posts)
46. I don't
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:34 AM
Dec 18

understand. He said evangelicals were lied to? Why is it the majority of democrats knew many years ago that trump has been lying to people for years! He has also cheated people out of their money for many, many years.

patphil

(8,733 posts)
49. Far too many people only saw what they wanted to see. "Believing is seeing" is its own punishment.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:12 AM
Dec 18

They wanted to believe Trump would do what they wanted, even though he told them what he was going to do. They ignored the cognitive dissonance of the actual situation in favor of a self-imposed fantasy of Trump being a good leader.
For those who can actually do it, the awakening is slow and painful.

There's very little critical thinking going on in MAGA land.

Jacson6

(1,770 posts)
53. FYI, Conservatives all believe that all immigrants are criminals.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:01 PM
Dec 18

Listen to their talk shows and read conservative forums. People don't understand that fact.

sakabatou

(45,779 posts)
57. Someone hit him with a clue-by-four several times
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
Dec 18

You're worse than an idiot! You're a complicit idiot!

B.See

(7,806 posts)
66. BELIEVE IT. What did he expect when
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 02:16 PM
Dec 18

he ran out and voted for scum who peddled hate and promised authoritarian rule.

Got what he fkn DESERVED.

tblue37

(68,198 posts)
73. Yes, he was lied to, but there are plenty of sources for accessing actual information. You don't have to
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 06:45 PM
Dec 18

trust obvious, repeated liars and felons.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,501 posts)
76. Your vote not only fucked up your life, it fucked up the lives of people who knew better...
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:05 PM
Dec 18

and that was likely a majority of voters.

The Roux Comes First

(2,156 posts)
77. There's Really No Way Around It; Evangelical Christian in Ever-so-Many Cases Equates to "Hate Any Potential
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:06 PM
Dec 18

Neighbor who doesn't look like you, worship like you, and join you in a hate-spree several times a week."

Just like their bible apparently says. Are they still fixated on Ussher's Year 4004?

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Response to mcar (Reply #83)

mcar

(45,687 posts)
86. What do you suggest we discuss?
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:45 PM
Dec 18

There are dozens of forums for special interests. Also, hundreds of OPs a day on various issues. You have picked this one to comment on - and threaten us with your departure if we don't pull ourselves together. Interesting from a 2 post new member.

Blaukraut

(5,983 posts)
90. I don't want to hear it anymore
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:57 PM
Dec 18

This motherfecker knew exactly what he was voting for unless he slept through Trump’s first term. He clearly wanted Trump to enact his entire agenda as long as it benefited him, not hurt him. Selfish pieces of shit like this guy get no sympathy from me. I am fresh out of fucks to give.

Susan Calvin

(2,403 posts)
95. Lord I'm sick of these people
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:54 PM
Dec 18

Who knew or should have known what they were voting for and then cry when they get it.

Skittles

(169,617 posts)
102. they DID know who they were voting for
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:25 PM
Dec 18

they just didn't think it would negatively affect THEM

tavernier

(14,273 posts)
98. If he truly thought that the only ones to be deported
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:40 PM
Dec 18

would be criminals, rapists and murderers, I can forgive him for being stupid because I’ve done a number of stupid things in my life. If I end up hating everyone, even those who now see the truth, how can I expect forgiveness when I screw up?

calimary

(89,047 posts)
99. Hey dude, you bought it. Now you OWN it.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:09 PM
Dec 18

You were “lied to”? You didn’t listen to anybody else?

You didn’t read the warnings from so many people who knew him and how he deceived people and how there was coverage about all the holes in his assertions?

You didn’t watch anything other than Pox Noise?

What worries me most is how too many people will allow themselves to be conned again, either by him or those coming after him who want what he got (or conned you for, or lied to you about, or just flat-out stole from you and all the rest of us).

Betty Boom

(392 posts)
100. Zero sympathy
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:18 PM
Dec 18

These people only care when an issue directly affects them. How laughable that he would hold himself up as some sort of representative of faith. Screw him and screw his wife. There are better people to worry about.

Skittles

(169,617 posts)
101. how ANYONE can claim to be Christian and see value in DONALD FUCKING TRUMP
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:24 PM
Dec 18

IT BOGGLES THE MIND

RockRaven

(18,738 posts)
104. This is the America THAT YOU VOTED FOR *DESPITE* BEING WARNED.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:44 PM
Dec 18

The Dotard said he was going to do everything that he is doing! These assholes ignored the parts they didn't want to hear, and now whine that they were lied to. They were lied to... BY THEMSELVES.

Blumancru

(210 posts)
107. No sympathy. He was fine with it until the Magastapo was turned against his own family.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:09 PM
Dec 18

Want to know a secret, MAGAts? He hates you only slightly less than he hates Democrats. He secretly calls you suckers. And you are, thats why you have earned his contempt.

rustbeltvoice

(479 posts)
108. One can't be both a Christian & a trumpster
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:18 PM
Dec 18

at least not at the same time. Jesus was a logician. You make a choice of one or the other.. Jesus was talking about God and Mammon; but same principle here.

Norrrm

(4,028 posts)
109. Congratulations! You got what you wanted - Trump in the WH.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:46 PM
Dec 18

‘I Don’t Care About You. I Just Want Your Vote’

Trump claims it was a joke but it turns out to be true.


camartinwv

(140 posts)
113. How did I, and many others, know that he was going to detain and deport anyone that is brown skinned, but not this idiot
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:19 AM
Dec 19

Some people just think they are better than others and are shocked when they get what they asked for.

W T F

(1,186 posts)
118. Hate it when they say they were lied to....Was Trump lying when he said he would be a dictator on day one?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:54 AM
Dec 19

DFW

(59,746 posts)
120. What is this guy's problem?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 04:08 AM
Dec 19

“Trump promised to arrest the worst of the worst.”
“He’s arresting Evangelical ministers who voted for him”

Yeah. So? Where is the inconsistency?

Old Crank

(6,674 posts)
121. Being an athiest,
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 04:13 AM
Dec 19

I would say that he and his wife are con artists also.
Birds of a feather like Trump.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"I can't believe this is ...