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global1

(26,388 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:12 PM Dec 17

What Did They Give Him To Deliver This Address.....

He's really hopped up. Not even taking a breath. How soon will he run out of steam and put himself to sleep.

He's trying to buy his way out of the crisis he created.

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What Did They Give Him To Deliver This Address..... (Original Post) global1 Dec 17 OP
It's the big one Diraven Dec 17 #1
He Might Stroke Off Before He Ends This Address....nt global1 Dec 17 #3
Pervetin? canetoad Dec 17 #2
You're right! He's not taking a breath. Jim__ Dec 17 #4
Would Adderall do this? Liberal In Texas Dec 17 #5
Adderall or Provigil. nt mr715 Dec 17 #6
What about cocaine? Irish_Dem Dec 17 #7
I don't think he's on cocaine. mr715 Dec 17 #10
I am sure he is on a drug cocktail. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #11
I think the drug cocktail is fairly typical, though. mr715 Dec 17 #13
Our discussions about Trump's drug usage are always fascinating. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #17
lol. "....to prevent his skeleton from escaping". chowder66 Dec 17 #19
Do they ever replay these things for him? I am thinking no. Wouldn't want to upset him ALBliberal Dec 17 #8
When I realized he wasn't taking a breath mercuryblues Dec 17 #9
No such luck skypilot Dec 17 #12
Heh. Yup. Sighhh... electric_blue68 Dec 17 #14
I was wondering the same thing PatSeg Dec 17 #15
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 17 #16
He realized that people are going to remember Rob Reiner for a long time and not... Crowman2009 Dec 17 #18
He's about to go down the Warren G. Harding path. Crowman2009 Dec 17 #20
Wiles said he has an addictive personality Hassler Dec 18 #21

Jim__

(15,064 posts)
4. You're right! He's not taking a breath.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:18 PM
Dec 17

I only put it on after I read your post. And he's definitely talking like he's hopped up.

Irish_Dem

(79,722 posts)
7. What about cocaine?
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:25 PM
Dec 17

People who worked with him in the 80's say he was a big cocaine abuser back then?
Could he still be using?

mr715

(2,671 posts)
10. I don't think he's on cocaine.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:35 PM
Dec 17

There isn't really a 'razor edge' to the energy that you'd expect from cocaine. Adderall would get him through the speech and explain the sniffling, and the relative focus.

Provigil, I believe, would just keep him awake. It is to my understanding a very clean psychostimulant.

Hell, I don't know. He might be on a carefully titrated combo of things to prevent his skeleton from escaping.

Irish_Dem

(79,722 posts)
11. I am sure he is on a drug cocktail.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:45 PM
Dec 17

Like last time, the current WH physician keeps him medicated with uppers and downers.
In the military they call it go and no go drugs.

But he has a history of abusing drugs, so he could be adding something extra.

Also keep in mind with your analysis we are looking at someone with dementia,
so we may not see the typical reaction to various drugs.

When I look at the Oval Office ludicrous gold decor on every inch of wall space
it looks bipolar or big hits of uppers.

mr715

(2,671 posts)
13. I think the drug cocktail is fairly typical, though.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:51 PM
Dec 17

His White House is increasingly looking like his Atlantic City casinos, which look like if a colonialist vomited on an old sears catalog.

You have an interesting hypothesis regarding the decor and his mental decline. I wonder if it is a regression to his (pun unintended) golden years of the 80s or if it just because "ooo shiny my frontal lobe is swiss cheese".

I suspect the former.

In re: Go/No go. My understanding is the Air Force goes with provigil for "go" and zaleplon/sonata for "no go", and I can report confidently that 20 mg of zalepon will make ya no go. Amazing drug, approved for middle-of-the-night insomnia because the body clears it so fast. But you know I'm a neurochemical nerd.

Irish_Dem

(79,722 posts)
17. Our discussions about Trump's drug usage are always fascinating.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:20 PM
Dec 17

Yes he has to be on a drug cocktail.
He is manic and needs to calm down.
And falls asleep and needs to wake up and be more alert.
But this is a tricky combination to balance.

Well I am now wondering if Trump has been bipolar all along.
Or if we are just seeing the effects of all the uppers he has taken in the past and currently.
I think yes it is combination of factors, his 80's narcissistic obsession with gold and being important.
And his dementia, it is now all weird and very off, this gold decor.

The history of USAF go and no go drugs has changed of course over time.
In WWII and Viet Nam, amphetamines were used.
The Nazis used large quantities of drugs I have read.

Interesting about what the USAF is using now.

PatSeg

(52,101 posts)
15. I was wondering the same thing
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:57 PM
Dec 17

He is speaking so fast and not using that annoying sing-song voice of his. They gave him something, which doesn't make anything he says true though.

H2O Man

(78,609 posts)
16. Recommended.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:59 PM
Dec 17

My cousin called and noted the exact same things -- non-stop pressured speech without visible inhaling.

That was truly pathetic.

Crowman2009

(3,406 posts)
18. He realized that people are going to remember Rob Reiner for a long time and not...
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 11:52 PM
Dec 17

...the orange assclown.

Crowman2009

(3,406 posts)
20. He's about to go down the Warren G. Harding path.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 11:54 PM
Dec 17

And we all know how moral and upright he was.

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