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marmar

(79,254 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:26 AM Dec 15

Erika Kirk can't escape Candace Owens


The Erika Kirk and Candace Owens feud is tearing MAGA apart
The widow vs. the podcaster drama reveals the right's biggest weakness

By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published December 15, 2025 6:45AM (EST)


(Salon) In the days after Charlie Kirk was fatally shot on Sept. 10, the MAGA influencer class united in a public display of grief for the founder of Turning Point USA (TPUSA). The mourning soon devolved into a public competition over who could perform sadness the loudest, which was the first indicator of what his loss would beget: a mad scramble to take advantage of a chance to seize bigger audiences, and more profit and power, in the right-wing media ecosystem.

The swift anointing of Charlie Kirk’s widow Erika as the new head of TPUSA did nothing to prevent the explosion of infighting that has been rapidly consuming the world of online MAGA media in the months since her husband’s killing. If anything, it’s backfired. As I predicted, Kirk is turning out to be a weak and ineffectual leader, persuading even more people in the very online right that now is their moment to get ahead in a crowded field.

....(snip)....

The current bucket-of-crabs situation of the online right is complex, but the biggest feud that’s emerging is between Kirk and far-right podcaster Candace Owens, who used to work for TPUSA and then for the Daily Wire, but she apparently proved too open about her antisemitic leanings to stay with either organization for too long. She reportedly remained friends with Charlie Kirk, but that didn’t stop her from seizing his killing as an opportunity to attack the power that TPUSA has amassed in the past couple of years in an obvious bid to grow her already robust media empire.

....(snip)....

All the while, Owens’ rhetoric about Erika Kirk has grown increasingly personal. Most shockingly, she keeps implying Kirk was involved in her husband’s murder, and accusing her of defrauding TPUSA donors. Last week, Owens released a video saying Kirk doesn’t have the strength to lead TPUSA, which follows pointed comments she made in early December about about how “in love” Charlie Kirk had been with a woman she says he dated before meeting his wife. ................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/12/15/the-erika-kirk-and-candace-owens-feud-is-tearing-maga-apart/




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Lovie777

(21,762 posts)
3. Can't shithole tell Owens to shut up?.................
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:35 AM
Dec 15

I mean he is the godfather of the maga movement.

Prairie Gates

(7,194 posts)
6. The whole lot of them are simply not nice people. They are not kind people.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:39 AM
Dec 15

They usually aim their invective at liberals, but they will just as easily aim it inward.

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)
8. This is why it makes me laugh when Christians talk about that thousand years
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 10:46 AM
Dec 15

of peace after God murders all the non-Christians.

These people would be at each others throats the first day.

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womanofthehills

(10,713 posts)
9. Erika has to be the most unpopular person over on X in the last few days
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 15

Candace is the popular one over on X. She like MTG is done with Trump and very anti genocide. Candace has one of the three most popular podcasts on the world.

They are meeting privately today. Erika believes like the FBI that Tyler acted alone and Candace believes others are involved. The big talk all over X is that within days, Erika forgave the guy Tyler who FBI says is the killer - but she’s mad at the woman who thinks Tyler didn’t act alone. Can’t make this stuff up. Candace is pissed at Israel for the genocide and Erica is in love with Israel.

Turning Points was going to have a huge presentation against Candace (who says they are corrupted) but suddenly Turning Points backed down and is sending Erika to make things good.

It’s like a Republican soap opera added to the Republican podcast civil war. Lots of Republican podcasters are done with Trump.

Iggo

(49,652 posts)
10. Owens knows what she's doing and Kirk is an imbecile.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:03 AM
Dec 15

Owens says things without needing someone to hand her a script.

Kirk….well….she’s trying to get away with being a sort of televangelist. And, face it, she’s kinda dumb.

womanofthehills

(10,713 posts)
12. Erika is being called the new Tammy Faye
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:14 AM
Dec 15

Her Bari Weiss interview (whatever) didn’t go over well.

I love Candace fighting everything Kash Patel says.

Iggo

(49,652 posts)
13. At least Tammy Faye could get the waterworks to flow.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:56 AM
Dec 15

Erika “No Tears” Kirk, not so much.

jfz9580m

(16,573 posts)
14. Marcotte is always a fun read
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 12:24 PM
Dec 15

She really follows these crazies dutifully carrying out the job of the “we watch Fox News so you don’t have to” type. I think she is from TX and familiar with that style of crazy.

(I’d read some of those crazies occasionally, just out of curiosity, if I didn’t think it might lead to Pegasus or Paragon being stuck on my phone. The New York Post or Unherd is about as far right as I go these days and I am wary even of them. I bet right wing sites stick spyware on your phone way more than left wing ones do.)

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