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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhoever is elected the 48th president won't be able to easily rebuild what Donald Trump is busy destroying.
Whoever is elected the 48th president wont be able to easily rebuild what Donald Trump is busy destroying. Countries can and will move on without the United States. Their firms will establish new supply chains and pursue other markets. Even if the U.S. were the ultra-dominant trading partner it used to be, the credibility of the nations promises, its treaties, its agreements, and even its basic rationality has evaporated in just weeks.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/trump-tariff-chaos-unfixable/682419/
Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)Even if we get a good president, some of the damage will take many years to heal, if ever.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)it's not all on Trump. He was voted in.
elleng
(141,926 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)will take a while.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)Many people created and maintain the Trump fascist monster.
taxi
(2,676 posts)Maybe our concerns need to become laser focused on keeping what the Democrats have built. Maybe the shift in our message needs to include, Fine. Tear your own shit apart. Take away anything you want from your own people, your compliant republicans. They are not our problem. We are fighting for our beliefs, and if the idea of democracy isn't part of your plan, we're fine with that. Don't f' with us.
Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)They have been taught to hate all Americans who are not straight white GOP christian males.
They sold our country down the river to the Russians.
taxi
(2,676 posts)They are 4 overlapping demographics, each with their own following and followers. Honestly, if we continue to isolate sector by sector we will never win. They'll just keep splitting into this sect or that sect. Chamilions all of them. Our strongest message has to be Us. We are the defenders.
allegorical oracle
(6,165 posts)home, preferably pregnant, and silently supporting the "head" of the household. He is a remnant of another generation.
taxi
(2,676 posts)Owns a pied-a-terre. Do you know where? HHS. In the head of HHS. In a literal way.
Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)Or under fascist and white male christian minority rule.
White males only make up 30% of the US population but they have most of the power.
taxi
(2,676 posts)We need to stop beating around the bush by letting them claim what they don't have.
In the 1950's they were the king-of-the-hill. As long as we let them hold that honor they will do as republicans always do - they will deny losing. They have lost. Pound that message home. This isn't the first Rocky movie where by shear will power they save the day. They have lost. They are losers.
Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)If it was any other country, the UN and other global groups would red flag us.
We are now under minority and fascist rule.
taxi
(2,676 posts)Tell them.
Ask them.
Ask them to find out for themselves.
Ask what happens when they try to speak with their elected puppets. Ask them what answers they get. Ask them why they lie down and accept excuse after excuse why their wants and need dreams always have to wait.
Ask them why they put up with it.
Tell them to open their eyes and to think.
Why is it that the people, the reporters, and the papers tell you that the Democrats are so bad? Is it because the Democrats are the ONLY ONES fighting. Everyone else is gutless
Irish_Dem
(79,734 posts)We are experiencing a fascist take over of our country.
And most every one just goes about their daily business and ignores it.
But there have recently been mass protests.
But they will change nothing?
elleng
(141,926 posts)which is why we need/will need LOTS of creative thinking and action.
tavernier
(14,262 posts)Surely cant they see that by 2028 this country will be renamed (do we truly think that his ego wont make him put the name Trump on it in some form) - and that it will bear no resemblance to either an American democracy or republic?
magicarpet
(18,457 posts)Is light years upon light years in distance from djt's ability to comprehend.
Me,... me,.. me,.... mine,... mine,... mine,... is all his mind can disgest.
msongs
(73,074 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)FadedMullet
(693 posts).......from the norm, that I think that, once he is gone, our friends will look for some corrections, but will want to go back to a system of relationships that (mostly) worked and (mostly) benefited everyone. Our country has done some dumb stuff, but we're not villains.
elleng
(141,926 posts)WITH you!
FadedMullet
(693 posts)delisen
(7,212 posts)We need to make dramatic internal changes in our own governance
FadedMullet
(693 posts).......get rid of the Electoral College. This compact of several states to honor the popular vote is a good start too.
B.See
(7,751 posts)unfortunately there are villains aplenty. Evil, TRUE evil is very real. And it is (THEY are) currently stabbing at the heart of Democracy.
FadedMullet
(693 posts)I trust that our friends will stick by us long enough.
aeromanKC
(3,813 posts)hadEnuf
(3,520 posts)At this point there is no promise that he will even go when it's time. He's had 2 months, only 46 more to go. What do we think the country will look like by then? Maybe the next POTUS will be Putin.
Anything is possible. Like armed Trump goons in the streets. We need to be ready to defend ourselves and have a plan to stop this somehow. Right now we are being slow boiled.
a kennedy
(35,285 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 and those gawd damn Repubs with no GOLL damn spines!!!!! I despise them all!!!!
MichMan
(16,623 posts)And he has been out of office 36 years
allegorical oracle
(6,165 posts)Timewas
(2,637 posts)If the people get pissed enough and we can get a majority Dem congress.both houses, it will take some serious time to repair things. Probably never get back to what we were. The rest of the world will never trust us to the extent they did.
misanthrope
(9,367 posts)Is that Don Jr.?
chowmama
(997 posts)While after the first 2 years, they'll be faced with a Congress dedicated to stopping them in their tracks. They'd be blocked from helping an old lady cross the street. If they defenestrated themselves, their corpse would be charged with felony littering, impeached and deported to El Salvador.
Of course, during the 4th year, they'll be running for office again while being blamed for being unable to perform miracles by illegal and unconstitutional executive orders, which wouldn't work anyway.
moonscape
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massive brain drain on top of everything else.
It will take decades if not generations
Initech
(107,399 posts)And groups like the Heritage Foundation. They've gone totally mad with power.
Kaleva
(40,162 posts)pat_k
(12,665 posts)in 50 years or so. But maybe not.
A coalition of Christian Nationalist, racist, women-hating, xenophobic, America isolationists, and brainwashed people manipulated by immoral and greedy billionaires elected a blatantly criminal psychopath, not just once, but twice.
Who would ever trust that it couldn't happen again?
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Dem4life1970
(1,047 posts)So much of what he has done has been done through executive orders. Those can be reversed on day one of a new president's administration. They have not codified into law their 2025 craziness so it can be undone literally overnight.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)Someone like Jimmy Carter.