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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 04:46 PM Apr 2025

Before a Fatal Helicopter Crash, 2 Midair Breakdowns and Unpaid Bills, fleet was smaller and older

Before a Fatal Helicopter Crash, 2 Midair Breakdowns and Unpaid Bills
The charter firm whose helicopter plunged into the Hudson River, killing the pilot and a family of five, had been struggling financially, records show.




Public records and interviews with pilots and other members of the helicopter industry showed that the company, which has operated as New York Helicopter Charter, had long been seen as an also-ran in the competitive business of taking tourists for aerial views of landmarks in and around New York City.

Its fleet was smaller and older than those of the biggest operators in the metropolitan area, where a single helicopter can earn up to $5,000 an hour.

Its owner and chief executive, Michael Roth, had developed a reputation for being slow to pay and quick to sue. After a sightseeing flight in 2013 ended in an emergency landing in the Hudson, Mr. Roth sued a company that had performed maintenance on its aircraft, saying it was to blame for the near disaster.

He accused the operator of one heliport in Manhattan of “ripping us off” and later sued the operator of another heliport to regain access there after being accused of failing to make good on past debts. He has also sued lenders over loan agreements, one of which he called “criminally usurious” in a court filing.

“He’s had disputes with everybody,” said John Kjekstad, a longtime sightseeing tour operator who said he has known Mr. Roth for 40 years. “That’s him.”

Even before the Covid pandemic wiped out tourism in New York, Mr. Roth’s company had fallen into tough financial straits. His company filed for bankruptcy in 2019 and had one its helicopters repossessed late last year, just eight months into its lease. Court records show that Mr. Roth reconstituted the business as New York Helicopter Tours after it failed under its former name.
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Before a Fatal Helicopter Crash, 2 Midair Breakdowns and Unpaid Bills, fleet was smaller and older (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2025 OP
Sure this wasn't Trump Helicopter Charter? sop Apr 2025 #1
Brother from another mother. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #2
Sometimes foreigners fail to do due diligence before malaise Apr 2025 #3
Sounds like he was very cost conscious WhiteTara Apr 2025 #7
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Apr 2025 #8
especially if you're lifting off the earth! WhiteTara Apr 2025 #9
Precisely malaise Apr 2025 #12
they got rich by being cheap. Too bad it cost him everything. WhiteTara Apr 2025 #14
Weird because he was wealthy Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #15
that's how he got wealthy WhiteTara Apr 2025 #17
I'll just avoid helicopters... WarGamer Apr 2025 #11
Sounds like another New Yorker we know. LoisB Apr 2025 #4
Sounds like what many consider to be a "successful businessman" that should be President JI7 Apr 2025 #5
We need to fire edhopper Apr 2025 #6
The pilot was former special forces... 35 years old... WarGamer Apr 2025 #10
Tragic he lost his life trying to make a post military living Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #16
Really tragic. And it doesn't sound like a very good company. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #13

malaise

(292,684 posts)
3. Sometimes foreigners fail to do due diligence before
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 04:57 PM
Apr 2025

Indulging in pleasure trips.
When family and friends visit me or tourism resorts where I live, not one stays in a resort or uses transportation or water toys unless I sanction the resort, transportation company or sea toy operators.

Foreigners often do not do the necessary due diligence. Alternatively check the ratings of every company associated with your trip.

This was too sad.

WhiteTara

(31,192 posts)
7. Sounds like he was very cost conscious
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:38 PM
Apr 2025

if others were charging $5000 an hour, he was looking for a bargain.

malaise

(292,684 posts)
8. Ding ding we have a winner
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:44 PM
Apr 2025

Cheaper can be deadly. Safety comes first for me. I would rather no trip than cut corners.

WarGamer

(18,248 posts)
11. I'll just avoid helicopters...
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 06:02 PM
Apr 2025

I was on one... once.

Went on a bucket list trip to Heron Island off the Great Barrier Reef in Australia...

The only way to get to the island is via chopper from Gladstone.

Pretty cool but won't do it again... and I've flown a TON of miles in my life on commercial jets.

JI7

(93,190 posts)
5. Sounds like what many consider to be a "successful businessman" that should be President
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:31 PM
Apr 2025

WarGamer

(18,248 posts)
10. The pilot was former special forces... 35 years old...
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:57 PM
Apr 2025

A great guy... given a shit bird to fly.

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