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CousinIT

(12,237 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:24 PM Apr 2025

Trump/Lutnick Goal Of No Taxes On Under $150,000 Will Defund Social Security Overnight

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewleahey/2025/03/14/trumps-goal-of-no-taxes-on-under-150000-may-cost-social-security/

. . .It is worth noting that most Americans in this income range pay more in payroll taxes than income taxes—payroll taxes fund Social Security and Medicare. When Lutnick speaks of eliminating “taxes” on individuals making less than $150,000, one must assume then that this includes both income taxes and payroll taxes, as the latter is the larger burden on individuals in that income range.

Lutnick, speaking to CBS News, reflected on his view of President Trump’s end policy goal, stating “I know what his goal is, no tax for anybody who makes less than $150,000 a year. That’s his goal, that’s what I’m working for.” It would make little sense to assume in his broad pronouncement of an elimination of “taxes,” Lutnick means only the lesser-burden of the federal income tax.

You Can’t Fund Social Security and Medicare Without Taxpayers
If the Trump administration truly intends to eliminate both income and payroll taxes from those earning under $150,000 and extend the TCJA tax cuts—we will be facing an existential crisis for the programs that working and retired Americans rely on.

In 2023 alone, payroll taxes generated $1.23 trillion, accounting for roughly 90% of Social Security’s revenue and a significant portion of Medicare’s funding. The entire system is predicated on there being workers paying in, so that retirees and the disabled can get paid out. Benefits do not continue in the absence of ongoing payroll taxes. Put differently, if you exempt enough income brackets from payroll taxes, you functionally deprive these programs of funding entirely.

. . .

The math is simple: if no one is paying in, no one gets benefits out. And that’s the part Trump’s allies don’t want to say out loud.
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Trump/Lutnick Goal Of No Taxes On Under $150,000 Will Defund Social Security Overnight (Original Post) CousinIT Apr 2025 OP
It will bankrupt the USA government as well... Lovie777 Apr 2025 #1
Don't think either of two idiots is proposing no FICA tax. No income tax is goal. They've already taken it back. Silent Type Apr 2025 #2
Apparently musk and dog-e has not ..... Lovie777 Apr 2025 #3
NO worries. The best health care is coming. 2 weeks. bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #4
I'm apopletic. I'm ranting. I'm scared for myself and millions of others. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #5
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
2. Don't think either of two idiots is proposing no FICA tax. No income tax is goal. They've already taken it back.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:34 PM
Apr 2025

"President Donald Trump has flirted with the idea of abolishing the IRS and creating a revenue stream from tariffs to offset major tax cuts. His latest pitch reportedly calls to end taxes for individuals earning less than $150,000 a year.

“I know what his goal is — no tax for anybody making under $150,000 a year,” Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told CBS News. “That’s his goal. That’s what I’m working for.”

Lutnick later walked his assertion back adding that Trump would consider such a massive tax cut if he were able to balance the budget (a feat that hasn't been accomplished since 2001 under the Clinton administration, when the U.S. last experienced a fiscal year-end budget surplus). The U.S. has only experienced a budget surplus four times in the last 50 years, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.

https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/trumps-latest-pitch-no-taxes-if-you-earn-less-than-usd150k

bucolic_frolic

(54,045 posts)
4. NO worries. The best health care is coming. 2 weeks.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:44 PM
Apr 2025

Best retirement too. If they exempt young workers and expect them to provide for their own retirement, those workers need better options than 401K, IRA, HSA, etc. They need discipline. Mandatory deductions. That's the beauty of Social Security. Without laws and FICA deductions, few will do it.

Trump is a wrecking ball.

yellow dahlia

(4,543 posts)
5. I'm apopletic. I'm ranting. I'm scared for myself and millions of others.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:56 PM
Apr 2025

These people are Bond villains. And they have millions of the uninformed conned.



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