General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMeasles Infections Surge by Triple Digits
Published Apr 11, 2025 at 4:16 PM EDT
Updated Apr 11, 2025 at 6:59 PM EDT
... Measles was eliminated in the U.S. in 2000, meaning it was no longer spreading continuously. Most new cases came from international travel. However, in recent years, cases have increased because fewer people are vaccinated.
This year, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says 97 percent of confirmed measles cases were in unvaccinated or unknown-vaccinated people.
As of April 10, the U.S. has recorded 105 more measles cases than the previous week, bringing the total for 2025 to 712 confirmed cases across 25 jurisdictions. That marks a sharp increase compared to the 285 cases reported in 2024 ...
"This is one of the worst outbreaks we've seen in the United States in years," Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist in New York, told CNN. "The confirmed case numbers are almost certainly an underestimate of the actual number of cases" ...
https://www.newsweek.com/measles-outbreak-update-infections-surge-2058796

lame54
(37,803 posts)Walleye
(39,614 posts)Trump and his men. Look how they sided with the Covid virus over us the humans. I don’t get it
CrispyQ
(39,459 posts)The arrogance of these men is simply stunning! Our species is standing on an ecological brink brought on by rich-man policies & they still think they're smartest people on the planet & should be in charge. And too many morons agree with them. WTF?
MLWR
(274 posts)that Krasnov almost died from Covid himself....and learned absolutely NOTHING from that experience.
Meowmee
(8,580 posts)He is not capable of learning anything like that nor of feeling empathy etc. But he has self preservation and got the best treatment available for himself while he murdered millions here.
struggle4progress
(122,672 posts)Last week, an 8-year-old girl became the second child and the third person to die of measles in the current outbreak. But it was Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the secretary of health and human services, who dominated the news cycle ...
Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told me. Instead, “his rhetoric should be on one thing and one thing only; it should be all hands on deck, in terms of launching a catch-up vaccination campaign and explaining to parents the vital importance of getting vaccinated,” Hotez said. “That’s the only way you can prevent this epidemic from accelerating, and it’s the only way you can hope to contain it. And there’s no other intervention” ...
... Health workers in Texas told me that parents are waiting until children are severely ill before they bring them to the hospital. Meanwhile, they’re trying unproven remedies, including toxic doses of vitamin A—which puts sick children at grave risk and does nothing to halt the virus as it tears through communities ...
While Kennedy wrote, in his Sunday afternoon post encouraging vaccines, that “the growth rates for new cases and hospitalizations have flattened,” after federal resources were sent to Texas in early March, cases are in fact rising quickly—and more are likely going undetected ...
https://newrepublic.com/article/193935/measles-cases-spreading-rfk-jr-vaccines
MLWR
(274 posts)—which puts sick children at grave risk and does nothing to halt the virus as it tears through communities ..." and plays havoc with their livers.
Lovie777
(17,979 posts)tanyev
(46,080 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole,_Texas#:~:text=Seminole%20is%20a%20city%20in,West%20Texas%20in%20the%201980s.
louis-t
(24,228 posts)I believe he's doing it on purpose. Most likely one of those idiots that thinks everyone getting it is the solution.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)It's extremely important to know that measles are not only highly infectious, a person is contagious for the 14 days before the break-out of spots. Once the spots break out, no longer contagious. That's essentially why the disease sticks around. Quarantining those with spots is useless.
So if one of the two had spots, that person wasn't contagious, but perhaps the other was.
Hekate
(97,215 posts)Apparently he had spots, said he had a fever the day before but felt better that day. Mothers with infants and toddlers — from the clothing, probably from the Mennonite community. Considering his cavalier attitude, I’m sure he’s been seeing patients right along.
What I hope happens to him personally is not nice.
Mariana
(15,499 posts)if he’s out of bed and going around “treating” patients.
Hekate
(97,215 posts)I listened to his blather as he touched and breathed on young & trusting mothers & innocent babies, and while I hope for their safety — I also wish for him a stay in the hospital in complete misery.
Maru Kitteh
(29,992 posts)like it was no big deal. He was treating patients while he had a known measles infection. Do a Google search for links.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)Deuxcents
(21,784 posts)Mariana
(15,499 posts)The CDC says:
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)Don't know why, but the 14 day incubation period is invariable, and people are contagious during and only during the 14 days before they break out.
louis-t
(24,228 posts)"four days before and four days after", yet one guy says "fourteen days before and that's it" and some people want you to believe only HE is the expert. And you "don't know why" but you are convinced this is the truth. I looked for any other source to confirm the 14 day period but was unable to find anyone else that makes the same claim. It appears that the incubation period is 10-14 days and carriers are most contagious or only contagious from 4 days before until 4 days after spots appear. If we can figure out why people are so willing to believe the odd man out, we will know why maga exists.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)louis-t
(24,228 posts)the rest of the scientific community that I've trusted with my health for 68 years is wrong? Does he do a real study or is it just an opinion based on some circumstantial evidence?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)He describes the history of measles in some detail, and also describes in even more detail, how a couple of doctors, not even done with their training yet, were sent to the Faroe Islands in 182-something (I've returned the book to the library, so I can't check it to give you the exact year) and thus determined the 14 day incubation period.
The author, Adam Ratner is not some random guy, he's a specialist in this field, and in the last day or two I've seen his name in articles about the measles outbreak. Look him up.
WhiskeyGrinder
(24,679 posts)Adam Ratner definitely knows what he's talking about. But that book does not say that measles isn't contagious after the rash appears. If that was something he believed, you'd think he'd be out there bringing it up in every interview he's had over the past several months.
Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #30)
Torchlight This message was self-deleted by its author.
louis-t
(24,228 posts)before from the CDC. I don't know where the poster got the 14 day figure and who told them that a person is not contagious after the spots appear. Maybe it was RFK jr, the most ill-informed man on the planet.
marble falls
(64,706 posts)PATRICK
(12,260 posts)n/a
Bernardo de La Paz
(54,713 posts)progressoid
(51,266 posts)Let's not forget that the left has had its share of these dipshits too.
Mariana
(15,499 posts)Although I wonder what percentage of the antivaxxers are on the left. Most of them seem to be conservative Christians, and some of the outbreaks get started in their pesthole churches.
magoo221
(9 posts)So proud of my cousin Dr Adam Ratner quoted in another story. He has been great during the measles outbreak.
Response to struggle4progress (Original post)
Name removed Message auto-removed
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,744 posts)"Booster Shots."
turbinetree
(26,028 posts)
Hekate
(97,215 posts)“Other people are free to let their children be crippled or die, and to infect everybody else. Not my business as n elected official, as long as my precious family is safe.”
This is the kind of reasoning that makes me want to throw things, hard.
turbinetree
(26,028 posts)Meowmee
(8,580 posts)RFK Junior psycho to the rescue…. NOT…. Don’t expect the cavalry to come in to save us for any of this.
OAITW r.2.0
(29,955 posts)I wonder how many deceased wished they had listened to the Science?
turbinetree
(26,028 posts)BoRaGard
(4,970 posts)Guilty as sin