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struggle4progress

(122,672 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:53 PM Saturday

Measles Infections Surge by Triple Digits

Published Apr 11, 2025 at 4:16 PM EDT
Updated Apr 11, 2025 at 6:59 PM EDT

... Measles was eliminated in the U.S. in 2000, meaning it was no longer spreading continuously. Most new cases came from international travel. However, in recent years, cases have increased because fewer people are vaccinated.

This year, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says 97 percent of confirmed measles cases were in unvaccinated or unknown-vaccinated people.

As of April 10, the U.S. has recorded 105 more measles cases than the previous week, bringing the total for 2025 to 712 confirmed cases across 25 jurisdictions. That marks a sharp increase compared to the 285 cases reported in 2024 ...

"This is one of the worst outbreaks we've seen in the United States in years," Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist in New York, told CNN. "The confirmed case numbers are almost certainly an underestimate of the actual number of cases" ...

https://www.newsweek.com/measles-outbreak-update-infections-surge-2058796

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Measles Infections Surge by Triple Digits (Original Post) struggle4progress Saturday OP
They're called Freedom Dots lame54 Saturday #1
So that pretty much proves that they don't just hate Americans. They hate humanity. Walleye Saturday #2
They want a die-off cuz they believe they are the best-of-the-best & will survive. CrispyQ Saturday #7
What's worse is MLWR Saturday #18
He is a psychopath/ sociopath narcissist Meowmee Saturday #25
RFK Jr. Is Praising Quacks struggle4progress Saturday #3
". Meanwhile, they're trying unproven remedies, including toxic doses of vitamin A-- MLWR Saturday #19
Ya know they are blaming brown immigrants...... Lovie777 Saturday #4
Maybe they should blame Russian immigrants.... tanyev Saturday #6
Saw a video of a 'doctor' in Texas seeing patients while infected. louis-t Saturday #5
Do you mean the doctor was infected? Or the patient? PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #14
It was the actual doctor who was sick. He was shown "treating" patients... Hekate Saturday #16
I seriously doubt he has measles Mariana Saturday #20
I seriously doubt he is not a quack in violation of his license & oath. He could have poison oak rash for all I care. Hekate Saturday #23
But you would be wrong, because he announced it to the gathered press Maru Kitteh Saturday #24
If he is broken out in measles spots, he is no longer contagious. PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #29
I saw that segment, too. The "doctor" admitted he had measles..a mild case, he said while treating kids Deuxcents Saturday #27
That's not correct about the contagion period. Mariana Saturday #22
Well, the CDC is wrong. Please read "Booster Shots" by Dr. Ratner. PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #30
Funny how the CDC, WHO, Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic say louis-t Sunday #33
Read the book. PoindexterOglethorpe Sunday #34
So, reading the book will convince me that one guy is right and louis-t Sunday #35
READ THE BOOK. PoindexterOglethorpe Sunday #36
"Incubation period" and "contagious period" are two different things that may or may not overlap. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Torchlight Monday #41
Thanks, I was just about to go check that. That is what I read louis-t Sunday #32
But ... but ... but, RFK Jr just said this week it was tailing off! marble falls Saturday #8
Baby killers PATRICK Saturday #9
Soon to be four digits, ... because whack jobs. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #10
While we're blaming antivaxxers... progressoid Saturday #11
Antivaxxers are to blame regardless of political affiliation. Mariana Saturday #21
Great article quoting my cousin magoo221 Saturday #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Saturday #13
Everyone needs to read Dr. Ratner's book PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #15
To all of the senators that voted for this shit show.............what say you now................ turbinetree Saturday #17
What they say is: "I chose to have all my OWN kids vaxxed for everything possible" ... Hekate Saturday #31
I agree..............the right is about "me" instead of like you and me are the "We".................. turbinetree Monday #38
I'm so glad I got my boosters 😀 Meowmee Saturday #26
The Great American Health Experiment. Should I believe Science or the Internet? OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #28
500,000 turbinetree Monday #39
G.O.P. did this to America BoRaGard Monday #40

Walleye

(39,614 posts)
2. So that pretty much proves that they don't just hate Americans. They hate humanity.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:55 PM
Saturday

Trump and his men. Look how they sided with the Covid virus over us the humans. I don’t get it

CrispyQ

(39,459 posts)
7. They want a die-off cuz they believe they are the best-of-the-best & will survive.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:22 PM
Saturday

The arrogance of these men is simply stunning! Our species is standing on an ecological brink brought on by rich-man policies & they still think they're smartest people on the planet & should be in charge. And too many morons agree with them. WTF?

MLWR

(274 posts)
18. What's worse is
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:48 PM
Saturday

that Krasnov almost died from Covid himself....and learned absolutely NOTHING from that experience.

Meowmee

(8,580 posts)
25. He is a psychopath/ sociopath narcissist
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:09 PM
Saturday

He is not capable of learning anything like that nor of feeling empathy etc. But he has self preservation and got the best treatment available for himself while he murdered millions here.

struggle4progress

(122,672 posts)
3. RFK Jr. Is Praising Quacks
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
Saturday

Last week, an 8-year-old girl became the second child and the third person to die of measles in the current outbreak. But it was Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the secretary of health and human services, who dominated the news cycle ...

Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told me. Instead, “his rhetoric should be on one thing and one thing only; it should be all hands on deck, in terms of launching a catch-up vaccination campaign and explaining to parents the vital importance of getting vaccinated,” Hotez said. “That’s the only way you can prevent this epidemic from accelerating, and it’s the only way you can hope to contain it. And there’s no other intervention” ...

... Health workers in Texas told me that parents are waiting until children are severely ill before they bring them to the hospital. Meanwhile, they’re trying unproven remedies, including toxic doses of vitamin A—which puts sick children at grave risk and does nothing to halt the virus as it tears through communities ...

While Kennedy wrote, in his Sunday afternoon post encouraging vaccines, that “the growth rates for new cases and hospitalizations have flattened,” after federal resources were sent to Texas in early March, cases are in fact rising quickly—and more are likely going undetected ...

https://newrepublic.com/article/193935/measles-cases-spreading-rfk-jr-vaccines



MLWR

(274 posts)
19. ". Meanwhile, they're trying unproven remedies, including toxic doses of vitamin A--
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:52 PM
Saturday

—which puts sick children at grave risk and does nothing to halt the virus as it tears through communities ..." and plays havoc with their livers.

tanyev

(46,080 posts)
6. Maybe they should blame Russian immigrants....
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:12 PM
Saturday
Seminole and Gaines County are home to a large population of Low German Mennonites from Russia that came to West Texas in the 1980s.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole,_Texas#:~:text=Seminole%20is%20a%20city%20in,West%20Texas%20in%20the%201980s.

louis-t

(24,228 posts)
5. Saw a video of a 'doctor' in Texas seeing patients while infected.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:05 PM
Saturday

I believe he's doing it on purpose. Most likely one of those idiots that thinks everyone getting it is the solution.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,744 posts)
14. Do you mean the doctor was infected? Or the patient?
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:22 PM
Saturday

It's extremely important to know that measles are not only highly infectious, a person is contagious for the 14 days before the break-out of spots. Once the spots break out, no longer contagious. That's essentially why the disease sticks around. Quarantining those with spots is useless.

So if one of the two had spots, that person wasn't contagious, but perhaps the other was.

Hekate

(97,215 posts)
16. It was the actual doctor who was sick. He was shown "treating" patients...
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:38 PM
Saturday

Apparently he had spots, said he had a fever the day before but felt better that day. Mothers with infants and toddlers — from the clothing, probably from the Mennonite community. Considering his cavalier attitude, I’m sure he’s been seeing patients right along.

What I hope happens to him personally is not nice.


Mariana

(15,499 posts)
20. I seriously doubt he has measles
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 07:36 PM
Saturday

if he’s out of bed and going around “treating” patients.

Hekate

(97,215 posts)
23. I seriously doubt he is not a quack in violation of his license & oath. He could have poison oak rash for all I care.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:05 PM
Saturday

I listened to his blather as he touched and breathed on young & trusting mothers & innocent babies, and while I hope for their safety — I also wish for him a stay in the hospital in complete misery.

Maru Kitteh

(29,992 posts)
24. But you would be wrong, because he announced it to the gathered press
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:07 PM
Saturday

like it was no big deal. He was treating patients while he had a known measles infection. Do a Google search for links.

Deuxcents

(21,784 posts)
27. I saw that segment, too. The "doctor" admitted he had measles..a mild case, he said while treating kids
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:11 PM
Saturday

Mariana

(15,499 posts)
22. That's not correct about the contagion period.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 07:58 PM
Saturday

The CDC says:

You can spread measles to others from 4 days before through 4 days after the rash appears.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,744 posts)
30. Well, the CDC is wrong. Please read "Booster Shots" by Dr. Ratner.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:30 PM
Saturday

Don't know why, but the 14 day incubation period is invariable, and people are contagious during and only during the 14 days before they break out.

louis-t

(24,228 posts)
33. Funny how the CDC, WHO, Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic say
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 11:14 AM
Sunday

"four days before and four days after", yet one guy says "fourteen days before and that's it" and some people want you to believe only HE is the expert. And you "don't know why" but you are convinced this is the truth. I looked for any other source to confirm the 14 day period but was unable to find anyone else that makes the same claim. It appears that the incubation period is 10-14 days and carriers are most contagious or only contagious from 4 days before until 4 days after spots appear. If we can figure out why people are so willing to believe the odd man out, we will know why maga exists.

louis-t

(24,228 posts)
35. So, reading the book will convince me that one guy is right and
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:38 PM
Sunday

the rest of the scientific community that I've trusted with my health for 68 years is wrong? Does he do a real study or is it just an opinion based on some circumstantial evidence?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,744 posts)
36. READ THE BOOK.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:44 PM
Sunday

He describes the history of measles in some detail, and also describes in even more detail, how a couple of doctors, not even done with their training yet, were sent to the Faroe Islands in 182-something (I've returned the book to the library, so I can't check it to give you the exact year) and thus determined the 14 day incubation period.

The author, Adam Ratner is not some random guy, he's a specialist in this field, and in the last day or two I've seen his name in articles about the measles outbreak. Look him up.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,679 posts)
37. "Incubation period" and "contagious period" are two different things that may or may not overlap.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 09:32 AM
Monday

Adam Ratner definitely knows what he's talking about. But that book does not say that measles isn't contagious after the rash appears. If that was something he believed, you'd think he'd be out there bringing it up in every interview he's had over the past several months.

Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #30)

louis-t

(24,228 posts)
32. Thanks, I was just about to go check that. That is what I read
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sunday

before from the CDC. I don't know where the poster got the 14 day figure and who told them that a person is not contagious after the spots appear. Maybe it was RFK jr, the most ill-informed man on the planet.

progressoid

(51,266 posts)
11. While we're blaming antivaxxers...
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:03 PM
Saturday

Let's not forget that the left has had its share of these dipshits too.

Mariana

(15,499 posts)
21. Antivaxxers are to blame regardless of political affiliation.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 07:44 PM
Saturday

Although I wonder what percentage of the antivaxxers are on the left. Most of them seem to be conservative Christians, and some of the outbreaks get started in their pesthole churches.

magoo221

(9 posts)
12. Great article quoting my cousin
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:12 PM
Saturday

So proud of my cousin Dr Adam Ratner quoted in another story. He has been great during the measles outbreak.

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

turbinetree

(26,028 posts)
17. To all of the senators that voted for this shit show.............what say you now................
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 05:44 PM
Saturday

Hekate

(97,215 posts)
31. What they say is: "I chose to have all my OWN kids vaxxed for everything possible" ...
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:54 PM
Saturday

“Other people are free to let their children be crippled or die, and to infect everybody else. Not my business as n elected official, as long as my precious family is safe.”

This is the kind of reasoning that makes me want to throw things, hard.

turbinetree

(26,028 posts)
38. I agree..............the right is about "me" instead of like you and me are the "We"..................
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:51 PM
Monday

Meowmee

(8,580 posts)
26. I'm so glad I got my boosters 😀
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:10 PM
Saturday

RFK Junior psycho to the rescue…. NOT…. Don’t expect the cavalry to come in to save us for any of this.

OAITW r.2.0

(29,955 posts)
28. The Great American Health Experiment. Should I believe Science or the Internet?
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:14 PM
Saturday

I wonder how many deceased wished they had listened to the Science?

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