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highplainsdem

(60,090 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:25 PM Apr 2025

Mueller, She Wrote: THREAD: Some folks have asked why Donald doesn't just pick up the phone and bring Abrego Garcia back

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THREAD: Some folks have asked why Donald doesn’t just pick up the phone and bring Abrego Garcia back. Besides the cruelty, what’s the point of defying the lower court’s order? Basically, he wants to see if he can get away with it. 1/

Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2025-04-12T16:15:51.790Z


Mueller, She Wrote
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THREAD: Some folks have asked why Donald doesn’t just pick up the phone and bring Abrego Garcia back. Besides the cruelty, what’s the point of defying the lower court’s order? Basically, he wants to see if he can get away with it. 1/

April 12, 2025 at 11:15 AM


Think back to the immunity ruling. SCOTUS sent it back down to the lower court so it could be appealed again to SCOTUS. That would give the bought-and-paid-for Roberts a second chance to kill the case. It was never going to trial, even if Trump had lost the election. 2/


SCOTUS added some very vague language for the lower court in the immunity ruling, saying the government had to prove whether an official act didn’t have the presumption of immunity based on how much it might impede the power of the executive. 3/


So basically, whatever the lower court decided was subject to vague rules that SCOTUS would get to take a look at a second time. I’m sure they would have tossed enough key evidence and facts to cripple the entire case had it gotten that far. 4/


In the Abrego Garcia case, SCOTUS also issued a vague guideline and remanded to the lower court to interpret it. “The District Court should clarify its directive, with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs.” 5/


That one sentence is what’s allowing Trump to stall the return of Abrego Garcia. To be clear, is IS ignoring the lower courts order to return him, but he could appeal her order on the grounds that he’s not being shown enough deference and due regard. 6/


In fact, he has said he would follow a Supreme Court order, but not a District Court order. So why doesn’t he just call Bukele and bring Abrego Garcia home? I think he wants to defy this order and see if the Supreme Court will let him get away with it. 7/


Why? Because if Trump can legally say “We can’t bring him home” without having to prove it, that means he doesn’t have to bring anyone home. And if he doesn’t have to bring anyone home, he can send anyone there forever. END/


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Mueller, She Wrote: THREAD: Some folks have asked why Donald doesn't just pick up the phone and bring Abrego Garcia back (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2025 OP
He could ask the president of El Salvador to bring him when he comes to visit. milestogo Apr 2025 #1
Bingo! - another ultimate stunt of KRASNOV, which is being rumored on Telemundo. UTUSN Apr 2025 #6
Becuae for Krasnov it would be a loss BoRaGard Apr 2025 #2
You nailed it. Everything he does is a performance to look like a strongman or a smart man, rather than the Doodley Apr 2025 #5
Even Supreme Court Justices Nictuku Apr 2025 #3
He knows too much Tickle Apr 2025 #4
they'll fersher try to get him to sign an nda. mopinko Apr 2025 #10
Good Tickle Apr 2025 #12
because Trump would have to bring him back in a box DBoon Apr 2025 #7
That is my suspicion at the moment Walleye Apr 2025 #9
Kick SheltieLover Apr 2025 #8
"with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs" notinkansas Apr 2025 #11
Exactly. orangecrush Apr 2025 #13
He just doesn't give a shit about anyone that's not white. At all. And yes, Fred fucked him up for life. Sadly, he now Evolve Dammit Apr 2025 #14

UTUSN

(76,981 posts)
6. Bingo! - another ultimate stunt of KRASNOV, which is being rumored on Telemundo.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:46 PM
Apr 2025

BUKELE is being *paid* by KRASNOV to take the prisoners and has the same lack of character as KRASNOV. It would be another one of KRASNOV's p.r. stunts, grabbing all headlines and air waves, which is one of his main motivations in life. They can spin it as his being compliant to the courts without his losing anything.




BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
2. Becuae for Krasnov it would be a loss
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:32 PM
Apr 2025

He cannot abide the idea of being a "loser."

His old man abused him so, being a "loser" meant hell.

Doodley

(11,650 posts)
5. You nailed it. Everything he does is a performance to look like a strongman or a smart man, rather than the
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:46 PM
Apr 2025

weak simpleton loser that he is.

Nictuku

(4,567 posts)
3. Even Supreme Court Justices
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:35 PM
Apr 2025

Heck, they could snatch Chief Justice Roberts as he is on his way home from work. The DOJ controls the Federal Marshals, they will have been ordered to stand down.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
4. He knows too much
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
Apr 2025

If Abrego Garcia ever came back, he’d be on every talk show, exposing the human side of what it means to detain people and send them to El Salvador—and the horrors of the prison they’re taken to.

mopinko

(73,321 posts)
10. they'll fersher try to get him to sign an nda.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 01:00 PM
Apr 2025

greet him w a big check and a “just sign this”.

DBoon

(24,750 posts)
7. because Trump would have to bring him back in a box
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:47 PM
Apr 2025

I'm being very cynical, but I suspect deaths are common in El Salvador's gulag

notinkansas

(1,299 posts)
11. "with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs"
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 01:13 PM
Apr 2025

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Evolve Dammit

(21,506 posts)
14. He just doesn't give a shit about anyone that's not white. At all. And yes, Fred fucked him up for life. Sadly, he now
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:23 PM
Apr 2025

rules as an autocrat. Free speech is next, not just on college campuses

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