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The Presidentâs unprecedented Executive Order yesterday targeting Messrs. Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor for nothing but the exercise of their First Amendment rights is the Presidentâs most constitutionally corrupt Executive Order to date.
— (@judgeluttig.bsky.social) 2025-04-10T16:31:24.480Z
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The Presidents unprecedented Executive Order yesterday targeting Messrs. Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor for nothing but the exercise of their First Amendment rights is the Presidents most constitutionally corrupt Executive Order to date.
April 10, 2025 at 11:34 AM
That this is occurring in the United States of America is shameful. But this is what America is today. Until these times pass, it is impossible to say that we have a government of laws, not of men, as our Founding Fathers and the Framers of our Constitution intended and provided.
It is a travesty of justice that Mr. Krebs and Mr. Taylor, and the nations law firms and legal profession, are being forced to defend themselves against the President of the United States and his palpably unconstitutional conduct.
The President obviously thinks the Supreme Court will ultimately side with him. It is just as obvious that it will not.
But the innocent American citizens targeted with these unconstitutional Executive Orders should not have to wait one day longer for vindication of their constitutional rights.
Their professional lives and livelihoods will be destroyed before such time as the Supreme Court rules. Thats exactly what the President is counting on. Thats why he continues to issue Executive Orders in defiance of the rulings of the federal courts.
Both Mr. Krebs and Mr. Taylor should immediately bring lawsuits in the federal district court in Washington, D.C. against the President, the Attorney General, and the Director of the FBI for vindictive/malicious prosecution,
in violation of their rights under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S Constitution,
and be prepared to litigate all the way to the Supreme Court the question whether their vindictive and malicious prosecution claims are cognizable before the two men are actually prosecuted.
Given that the Presidents order on its face makes plain that there is not even an arguable basis for criminally investigating these two American citizens except for their exercise of their First Amendment rights the express basis upon which the President ordered them to be investigated
in my view the lower federal courts should summarily strike down this Executive Order and quash the Presidents ordered criminal investigation of these two honorable American citizens.
The Supreme Court of the United States thereafter should summarily affirm.
The Constitution requires nothing less, lest it become the suicide pact that Justice Robert Jackson feared in Terminiello v. Chicago that it could.
We all know whats going on here at this point. The President is not going to stop until he is stopped once and for all by the federal courts.
April 10, 2025 at 11:34 AM
sop
(17,471 posts)MiHale
(12,633 posts)How the heck are the Federal Courts going to stop him? He owns the Supremes
disregards the rest. They will rule
whos going to enforce?
We watched him laugh at the courts for 4 years when he wasnt president. Nothing.
hlthe2b
(112,835 posts)So, not all hope is lost. No, I'm no fan of any of them lest that be anyone's instinct to call me out. I am speaking to some of the most important cases since Trump was inaugurated.
MiHale
(12,633 posts)Yes the courts will rule but do you think hell obey them? The courts are words who is bringing the action?
hlthe2b
(112,835 posts)follow a legal order, they can enable private attorneys to serve as special prosecutors, and they can even direct local law enforcement in certain cases. Those US Marshalls may be reticent to go against their DOJ bosses, but a court order--especially from SCOTUS does have weight and to ignore it does put themselves at serious legal consequences. If DOJ were to fire them, they have legal protections there too. Further, should this wind up in an executive v judicial branch standoff, I am not going to bet the farm that all hope is lost with Congress--no matter how worthless the R's have been. It is their future at risk as well.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,581 posts)He has conservative legal credibility. It's unlikely that him saying "Trump owns the Supremes" would get those two to say "no, we'll show him he's wrong!" and do the right thing; it's more likely that him saying "they're honorable, they'll do the right thing" would help get them to think about their reputation and "legacy".
wordstroken
(1,405 posts)Much appreciated, highplainsdem.
LudwigPastorius
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Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)Came to type the same thing you did!