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Dennis Donovan

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Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:43 AM Apr 10

Mother Jones / Ari Berman: House GOP Are Set to Pass a Voter Suppression Bill That Would Disenfranchise Millions

Last edited Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Mother Jones / Ari Berman - House Republicans Are Set to Pass a Voter Suppression Bill That Would Disenfranchise Millions

“It’s a five-alarm fire for American voters and for election officials”

Ari Berman
32 minutes ago

An illustration of an oval white sticker with "I Voted" in blue at the center with an American flag billowing to the left. The sticker is torn in two between the "T" and "E".
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Two weeks after Donald Trump issued a sweeping anti-voting executive order, the House of Representatives is set to pass a measure, the SAVE Act, that is described by voting rights advocates as perhaps the worst voter suppression bill ever seriously considered by Congress. It could disenfranchise millions of voters and would severely limit how Americans can register to vote.

“If the SAVE Act were enacted, this would be the first federal voter suppression bill in recent memory, and possibly ever,” says Eliza Sweren-Becker, senior counsel for the Brennan Center for Justice’s voting rights and elections program. “It would be an unprecedented burden on tens of millions of Americans and would block millions of Americans from voting and participating in our democracy. It’s a five-alarm fire for American voters and for election officials.”

Under the alleged need of stopping noncitizens from voting in federal elections, which is already illegal and exceedingly rare, it would require documentary proof of citizenship, such as a passport or birth certificate, to register to vote.

Nine percent of American citizens, roughly 21 million people, don’t have ready access to citizenship documents, according to a study by the Brennan Center and other voting rights groups. Sixty percent of them voted in the 2020 election. Close to 4 million don’t have these documents at all, because they were lost, destroyed, or stolen.

But the number of impacted voters is much larger than just those who don’t possess or have easy access to citizenship documents. According to the Pew Research Center, 69 million women who have taken their spouse’s name do not have a birth certificate matching their legal name and could find it much harder to register to vote under the bill. Interestingly enough, conservative Republican women and Republican/Republican-leaning women were the two groups most likely to take their partner’s name. Greta Bedekovics, associate director for democratic policy at the Center for American Progress, calls this “a marriage penalty” that “completely ignores the implications of the 19th Amendment.”

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Mother Jones / Ari Berman: House GOP Are Set to Pass a Voter Suppression Bill That Would Disenfranchise Millions (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Apr 10 OP
That's not legal........... Lovie777 Apr 10 #1
This would also affect magaloons ! kimbutgar Apr 10 #2
If your maiden name is on your other IDs, you should be good to go. Am no conservative allegorical oracle Apr 10 #3
I had a brief ill fated marriage that ended horribly kimbutgar Apr 10 #4
Real ID alone does not prove US citizenship in most states. PA Democrat Apr 10 #5
My sister changed her name back blubunyip Apr 10 #6
Maddow Blog-House Republicans pass the 'SAVE Act,' which is a solution in search of a problem LetMyPeopleVote Apr 10 #7
Marc Elias on House republicans trying try disenfranchise millions of voters LetMyPeopleVote Apr 10 #8
They can't repeal the 19th Amendment, valleyrogue Apr 10 #9

kimbutgar

(24,838 posts)
2. This would also affect magaloons !
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:49 AM
Apr 10

I kept my maiden name and hyphenated my married name on social security and my passport. So I guess I could still vote ?

allegorical oracle

(4,608 posts)
3. If your maiden name is on your other IDs, you should be good to go. Am no conservative
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:22 PM
Apr 10

or religious person, but opted to take my husband's name. Was still able to get a "real" ID here in Florida. Just presented my certified marriage certificate along with my certified birth certificate. Also added my maiden name to my driver license. (All this is stupid BS and wastes everybody's time.)

kimbutgar

(24,838 posts)
4. I had a brief ill fated marriage that ended horribly
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:01 PM
Apr 10

It was hellish to change back to my maiden name. After I married my current husband now of 36 years I hyphenated my name when I renewed my drivers license, passport and financial documents.

What I don’t understand is that magaloon women are ok with giving up their right to vote !

PA Democrat

(13,406 posts)
5. Real ID alone does not prove US citizenship in most states.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:16 PM
Apr 10

Real ID can be obtained by non-citizens who are in the US legally.

There are a handful of states who have some type of US citizen indication on their Real ID, but in all other states a Real ID is not proof of citizenship.

blubunyip

(100 posts)
6. My sister changed her name back
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:18 PM
Apr 10

She took her husband's name at first but found that people immediately treated her like she was second fiddle to him, ie. "the wife." Even to the point of looking to him to be the decider in everything. She changed back to her maiden name solely because of the way she was being treated. She's a science researcher. He is in science also and is fine with it. But people should be allowed to have the name they want. I guess you could call it a "marriage penalty."

Whatever people decide is their legal name should not be questioned by anyone. Take spouse's name, or don't-- really nobody's biz. It's a custom, not a requirement. Other countries do it differently.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,645 posts)
7. Maddow Blog-House Republicans pass the 'SAVE Act,' which is a solution in search of a problem
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 05:30 PM
Apr 10

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I volunteer on voting rights/voter protection efforts. Non-citizens do not vote
 
The House GOP majority passed a ban on noncitizen voting, which (a) almost never happens; and (b) is already illegal. It’s worth understanding why.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lmiblspuhc2h

The SAVE Act would:
- make it harder for Americans to vote
- address a problem that doesn't exist
- impose new burdens on state election administrators

House Republicans passed it anyway.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/house-republicans-pass-act-solution-search-problem-rcna200681

The GOP duo pitched legislation that would require documentary proof of citizenship to register to vote. The absurdity of watching two notorious election deniers pretend to be deeply concerned with the integrity of elections was a detail the political world was apparently supposed to overlook.

Soon after, House Republicans followed through, introducing the “Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act” (or “SAVE Act”). As NBC News reported, that same bill has now passed the chamber.

The legislation, sponsored by Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, would amend the National Voter Registration Act so that states would be required to obtain proof of citizenship in person from people who are registering to vote. It would also require states to establish a program to remove undocumented immigrants from existing voter rolls and would allow American citizens to sue election officials that don’t follow proof of citizenship requirements.


The measure cleared the chamber on a 220-208 vote, with four Democrats — Reps. Ed Case of Hawaii; Henry Cuellar of Texas; Jared Golden of Maine; and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington — voting with the majority. No GOP members opposed the bill.

The principal concern with the legislation is that it’s a solution in search of a problem. To hear Republicans tell it, policymakers must prevent noncitizens from voting, which probably sounds reasonable. In fact, it’s so reasonable that the SAVE Act is redundant: There are literally zero locations in the United States where noncitizens can vote in federal and/or state elections.

GOP lawmakers have also argued that legislation is needed to curtail the scourge of noncitizens who are already voting. Except, Republicans have gone searching for evidence of this problem and found effectively nothing.....

What’s more, as The Associated Press reported last month, state elections officials — from both parties — have expressed practical concerns about how these costly proposed procedures would be implemented and paid for. The same article added, “Voting rights groups have said married women who have changed their name could have trouble registering under the SAVE Act because their birth certificate lists their maiden name.”....

The bill now heads to the Senate, where Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah is championing a companion bill. The odds of the legislation overcoming a Democratic filibuster, however, are poor. Watch this space.

During the Texas voter id litigation back in 2012, Greg Abbott as AG argued that non-citizens were voting but could provide no evidence of this because non-citizens are too scared to break the law by voting

valleyrogue

(1,994 posts)
9. They can't repeal the 19th Amendment,
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:41 PM
Apr 10

so this is an end run of sorts.

This is all about women and curtailing their voting rights. Women are far more likely to vote Democratic.

Furthermore, women need to stop with the idiocy of changing their names upon marriage.

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