I have to bet, via telephone and NOT in person.

Damn yes! But the message is getting out.

from what I understand they are from a pretty red county. Fine's margin may grow.

It'll be less than Waltz's win last November but it will grow. With 42% of the vote in, John Well led something like 52-48 and now the vote has doubled and he trails 54-45, so, that should tell you that most the vote is GOP leaning. Fine will win by 15+ I suspect.

66.53% to 33.46%

Just does not matter.

in a 30 plus R district.

If he and the congressman had won the district by three points instead of thirty, he would have looked elsewhere.

Florida 1 will probably have a similar outcome, the R winning by a surprisingly slim margin.

All minorities and people different from them over their own physical survival.

shit hole state from hell IMO

All of you on here slinging unhinged vitriol at Florida need a reality check. Kamala Harris received 4.7 million votes in Florida. That's more than New York, Pennsylvania Georgia, etc. Without looking, it's probably the third or fourth highest democratic vote total in the entire nation. Yes, it's true that the government sucks here and it is now a solidly red state.

Shithole state, eh? Using that same logic, you would need to apply that label to most of the other states in the United States. It's not just Florida folks. I hate to break it to you, most states are currently red, as is the country. The point is that there are millions of Democrats who live here. And I dare to say that most of us do not consider it to be a shithole state.

Harris got very close to the same number of votes in New York & Florida, despite Florida's population being 3.5 million higher. The 5th largest state is PA and their population is almost 7 million smaller than NY. Saying more people in Florida voted for Harris than most other states isn't the positive statement you think it is.

The issue is that large areas of the state (like the 2 Congressional Districts with special elections) actually earn that shithole designation pretty well consistently voting for Republicans over Democrats by like a 2 to 1 margin.

Um, you completely missed my point. And also, failed to address what I stated. Which again, were the fact that most other states in the United States are red States and voted Republican. Yet, no shithole designation. That is why we are where we are now as a nation. It is not ONLY Florida.

Second, millions of Democrats live here and there seems to be very little recognition of that when people all over this board are calling it a shithole state. This is casually done without distinguishing between the millions of Democrats that live here and the right-wing government. Okay, the government here is a shithole government, just like MOST of the other states in this country. So all of those other districts are shithole districts in shithole states, correct?

BTW, I live in one of those shithole districts that you mention. I guess you can't control yourself and it just brings you some sort of internal pleasure to continue to apply that label to areas of Florida. I live here. I'm kind of an expert. And I can confidently state that this is far from a shithole, having lived in other parts of this country during my life. I'll think of you while I'm having a beer on the sugar white sands along the crystal clear waters of the Gulf of MEXICO.

shithole states regardless of their size. That include Texas which is significantly larger than Florida. People aren't singling out Florida, their ire is directed at every state that votes for Republicans by huge margins - including Texas, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Kansas, South Carolina, Missouri, Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, Utah, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Dakota, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Idaho, West Virginia & Wyoming.

By the way, I'm from Pennsylvania and I would absolutely call at least 2/3 of the counties in this state as shithole counties - including the county where I grew up. They absolutely deserve the designation.

I appreciate the polite follow up and clarification. And believe me, I'm beyond frustrated watching Florida go more right-wing every year.

I'm trying to potentially look at tonight as a positive with the closer margins in these bright-red Florida districts and the humiliation of Musk in the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. I'm hoping the Dem over-performance is a harbinger of good things to come in 2026.

While Dems still lost, the gains they made since November were huge and consistent with special elections elsewhere around the country. Good reason to be hopeful, especially when you add in the Wisconsin SC win tonight!

To be clear, I agree with you that people shouldn't tar entire states as shithole places when there are strong Blue pockets in even the reddest of states. If you noticed a couple other comments I made in this thread, I criticized people for trashing the entire state of Florida and said they should focus their anger on the areas where the special elections were held - those are the areas (and others with similar voting patterns) that are responsible for allowing Trump and DeSantis to win there and make things miserable for millions of people.

Democrats like Lawton Chiles, Bob Graham, Earl Hutto, and Buddy MacKay were popular and made it a great state.
Good memories from back then...

Dems there are not the target. It is those MAGAs. You know that. I like Kansas but I hate Kansas. Well, I guess we have a Dem governor. But, it is a hellhole as you move West.
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A lot that was probably due to Trump, but some of it might be because the GOP nominated a truely terrible candidate. The other special election tonight will probably be a lot moe demonstrative of how unpopular Trump is.

So they should care somewhat.

These people are MAGA. Yes. It is a cult

I am at a point I don’t give a fuck if they get blown away and no FEMA, no insurance for people or property, it is best the genetics of that place gets wiped away. Too damn dumb to exist.
Apologies to Florida people with a brain. The politics of that shit hole is so corrupt they dint have a damn chance. Besides, they house all the trumps.

This Congressional District has consistently voted for Republicans over Democrats by a 2 to 1 margin. Expecting the Democrats to win in such a district is totally unrealistic. (The margin in this election WILL be much closer than typical for the District). Then to follow it up by slandering the entire state of Florida, the vast majority of which had no vote today, is particularly ridiculous.

"Floriduh? You get it? It's like Florida, but FloriDUH!!! Get it? Get it?!?"

The criticism should be focused entirely on the regions that did the voting (which are overwhelmingly Republican so they deserve all the slander they get ) rather than the state as a whole

But we are looking at a 19 point swing from November to now.

that they did in 2024. If we pick up 10 to 15 points in every district in the midterms, we'll have 285 seats.

the state of Wisconsin our Judge beat the former Republican AG by 10 points.

Like I said, apply numbers like that nationwide and see what you get. Remember, Trump is not on the ballot, so the extreme cult (Trump's cultiest 15%)

They vote MAGA whether there are school shootings, flooding due to global warming and what not. Majority of seniors in those Villages don't give a fuck about the country. These include old veterans who hate the Constitution. Miami is horrible. Its Hispanic population is made fun of by Trump, but they keep going for him. Florida seems to be diseased MAGA country

I AM PISSED.

Voting to get rid of FEMA and send insurance rates to the moon?

before these people realize that Trump is NOT their friend???

I knew we weren't going to win those districts. I hoped we might, sure, but am not at all surprised we lost. They are just way too red and too full of Trump morons.