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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsa former friend who went full maga died last night
he went full maga before the morons first term and i cut hom out of my life completely
just found out he died last night
the sad thing is i dont give a damn. no sympathy. All i can think of is thats one less trump supporter. other than that i dont give. damn..
multigraincracker
(36,988 posts)Journeyman
(15,422 posts)Response to moonshinegnomie (Original post)
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RainCaster
(13,385 posts)I'm curious about that.
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NickB79
(20,247 posts)Interesting
calimary
(89,041 posts)Glad youre here!
I cant go so far as to condemn anybody for extreme upset about how badly trump is screwing our country and trying to screw our future. All I can do is work my hardest to minimize - or try to counteract - whatever damage is being created by Republicans and their sympathizers.
Im happy to suggest you sample the Indivisible movement. Therell be a load of us taking part in this Saturdays nationwide event. There might be some activity near you, and it may only demand an hour or two, or whatever you feel like doing. You might actually find some folks of like mind who are worth getting to know!
And itll make you feel like youre DOING SOMETHING, no matter how small an action it might be.
niyad
(129,560 posts)The "just joined today" referred to a removed troll.
AllaN01Bear
(28,607 posts)niyad
(129,560 posts)Paladin
(32,287 posts)Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. "One less trump supporter" is the proper sentiment.
magicarpet
(18,457 posts).... do they Iike anchovies and garlic on their pizza ?
ananda
(34,430 posts)My former best friend went crazy during Covid,
touting anti-vax and the use of hydroxychloroquine.
That was our last conversation. It hurts to think of
her losing her mind that way, but that's how it goes.
Bettie
(19,283 posts)I lost to Trump and anti vax.
I just can't manage to have a conversation with her anymore. So, I send a Happy Birthday text once a year, she sends one to me, and that's it.
ananda
(34,430 posts)they are all liberal yellowdawg Democrats like me!
Response to moonshinegnomie (Original post)
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LuvLoogie
(8,517 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2025, 08:37 AM - Edit history (1)
He isn't inflicting a racist fascist regime upon "conservatives"
Bothsiderism is so lame. Losing empathy for the MAGA in your life is not actively promoting their demise
Conjuay
(2,900 posts)LIBS didnt attempt to end a constitutional democracy.
All the rest of your blather is a moot point.
They refused to accept the outcome of the election, fuck them.
They can move to Russia - god knows Ive heard that yelled at me enough times for fifty years.
I apologize for my abrasiveness, but really, enough of this shit.
WarGamer
(18,249 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,852 posts)There is no moral equivalence. That should be obvious.
What good is political activism if all you're doing is trying to be as bad/worse than those you oppose?
The op did not vote for an insane fascist who murdered millions. Not mourning that person wouldnt ever make them the same or worse than fascist maga or third party non voters etc. who voted for the harm, death and destruction of Americans and democracy.
Its called self protection and self preservation. Make an effort to understand the difference.
Response to WarGamer (Reply #11)
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Montauk6
(9,305 posts)Because, dear sir or madam, that IS what they're thinking.
Holder 3:16 sez, "When they go low, kick 'em."
bluestarone
(21,180 posts)Totally!
mountain grammy
(28,682 posts)and that's fine, just say you disagree and leave it there, because you did choose to participate by saying much more than than that and then being judgmental.
People are stressed and scared. We are being confronted by pure evil and it's not being stopped. Tell those people sent to El Salvador or stuck in a stinking, overcrowded American detention center with no end in sight that "hate is corrosive and I choose not to participate"
We all know hate is corrosive, but sometimes it's all we got. I hope everyday that trump drops dead!!!
WarGamer
(18,249 posts)hueymahl
(2,892 posts)Its a tough time for a lot of people. That does not mean we should abandon our humanity or compassion. I hope OP does not in the future regret their actions toward this friend.
summer_in_TX
(4,046 posts)Feel sorry for them if you can. Horrible to fall prey to propaganda and turn into hateful people. They''re the marks.
That's how I keep myself from stewing in hatred. I reserve the most contempt for those who have manipulated them.
niyad
(129,560 posts)death?
Cirsium
(3,363 posts)Slave owner abuses slave does not equal slave hates master.
MAGA is about abuse. They target the most vulnerable.
The two sides are not equal. It is corrosive to insist they are.
No, fighting back does not mean we are as bad as they are. Ever.
Response to Cirsium (Reply #37)
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Cirsium
(3,363 posts)That is a ridiculous statement. Damn, where to start?
First, MAGA cultists support the MAGA terrorists, for example the January 6th terrorists. We do not support any one throwing Molotov cocktails. Get the difference?
Next, no one here advocated throwing Molotov cocktails.
Then, vandalizing a car is not the same as bombing a building, ffs.
Destroying a car is not for the purpose of terrorizing any group of people. Ergo, while it is a crime, of course, it is not terrorism. Bombing a clinic is.
Then, there is the fact that these random acts of violence supposedly connected to the Left are as often as not done by right wingers and agents provocateur.
Response to Cirsium (Reply #44)
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True.. but the problelm is this. We are running into facism and people that love Trump ARE part of the problem. Libs are fighting for democracy. Put YOUR shoe on the other foot. Are you advocating those who didn't oppose Hitler with the same logic you just used against the libs? i think NOT.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,963 posts)harumph
(3,113 posts)IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Cut him off.
After election Nov 2024
Wasnt worth associating with MAGA scum
Told him to never text or call me.
Good riddance
Its exactly like
.anyone, or another who supported Hitler,
there is no other way. Good riddance.
A vile racist.
Talking to scum like that is a waste.
I DO NOT ASSOCIATE OR TOLERATE RACISTS
I DO NOT TOLERATE MAGA EITHER
Rachel M at 6 pm
(156 posts)My closest friend (who was also my oldest friend) went full MAGA
The friendship ended last year, and by then it had lasted about 8 years too long
After our contact ended, I learned that he was arrested for assaulting a woman at an election night campaign celebration
Whyisthisstillclose
(379 posts)is limited. Take care of those we love and give off vibes of love. The others are on their own.
BigDemVoter
(4,676 posts)I had a gay friend from college who went full evangelical and maga. I never did ask him how he reconciled his homosexuality with his supposed Christianity, but I truly believe he doesn't see it as a problem.
I just couldn't continue to keep communicating with him. I just wasn't able to. I get what you are saying.
barbtries
(31,127 posts)If she dies I don't know if I'll even find out, let alone whether I'll feel much. I think I've been letting her go for a while now.
We lost them before they died. A terrible by-product of the krasnov years and the decades of incessant right wing propaganda, as well as the intractable racism and bigotry of most if not all magats.
I want to say I'm sorry, and I am, but I feel like I understand your feelings all too well.
Rachel M at 6 pm
(156 posts)My problem is that I will find out (and I fully expect him to preceded me in death, given his unhealthy lifestyle)
When his son calls to tell me the bad news, I'm going to have to decide whether or not to tell him the truth
"I'm sorry, but your dad and I have not been friends for a long time"
I'm sure that's not the way to handle it but I don't know what is the right way
I'm certainly not traveling across the country for the funeral of someone who voted to strip my mom of her safety net because he thought presidents control the price of eggs
barbtries
(31,127 posts)she will probably pre-decease me, but I don't know that. Her kids may contact me. At this moment I pretty much feel as if I buried her a few months ago, and the body had decomposed long before that.
Maru Kitteh
(31,250 posts)Still, its a shame to see what this cult has wrought in the lives of so many.
chouchou
(2,805 posts)People start listening to garbage news, hear propaganda lies and slowly lean to a fake reality.
Two of my past friends fell for the Right-wing crap. They're still alive so I hope their brains get up out of the dirt..
Simeon Salus
(1,572 posts)And then she died of Covid.
I will be a reunion one day and will try very hard not to be a dick about it.
This is what they voted for: reality tv.
ZDU
(1,119 posts)you are in my thoughts
peace
TNNurse
(7,492 posts)many of us understand. They have pushed us into a dark place. We are not happy there, but it is self protection.
EarthFirst
(3,947 posts)I wouldnt allow this to occupy your thoughts in any impactful way.
WestMichRad
(2,932 posts)paleotn
(21,551 posts)Xolodno
(7,314 posts)Minister was giving a sermon on enemies and how we should still love them as everyone has them.
Old man in the back stands up and says "I don't have any".
Minister then asks "Are you sure?"
Old man says "Yes, because I outlived ever one of those bastards!".
elocs
(24,486 posts)But those of us who are Democrats and on the Left seem to have a history of being self-righteous about our beliefs, convinced it makes us better than those on the other side. But we have not been vigilant in protecting the rights of our nation being convinced that the maga crowd were just a bunch of ignorants in the Trump culture of personality. Meanwhile while we were convinced they were just a bunch of stolen election morons they have been planning the take-down of the nation we love.
Oh that we had not been complacent about our democracy's future and self confident that we would prevail.
How art the mighty fallen and our sin was one of national pride being convinced that the loss of our democracy could never happen here but only in those lesser nations of the world. But no matter what happens in the future, America will never be the same again.
mwb970
(12,079 posts)Save it for the worthy, I say.
JoseBalow
(9,165 posts)without exception
kellytore
(255 posts)and I showed no sympathy either. Every time I would see him he would praise Trump as some kind of God, and then would call me a socialist. He use to be a really cool guy 30 years ago, but when he retired in 2010, he would drink vodka all day and watch Fox News.
orangecrush
(28,386 posts)That I would be saddened by their deaths.
Life isn't one dimensional.
These are ordinary people pretty much in the same boat as me who were deceived, is how I see it.
On the other hand, if him or any members of his circle kick it, mourning is not on the card.
Renew Deal
(84,706 posts)And being honest about your conflicted feelings is not a betrayal of your politics.
orangecrush
(28,386 posts)Much appreciated.
hamsterjill
(17,016 posts)These people have no compassion, no empathy, and certainly no understanding of our side, and they don't expend any energy trying to understand our points of view. So, I don't think that we have the luxury of "going high" any longer. If we do that, we've already seen what happens. We get pummeled and bull dozed.
You've done nothing wrong. You didn't WISH this person to die. You didn't do anything to cause their passing. Your emotions are justified, and you're just expressing honest feelings.
I see nothing wrong with that.
Javaman
(65,115 posts)Woodwizard
(1,265 posts)He had almost no one he had driven everyone away with his hate, when we went to clean out the house he had a flag on the front of the house that said Fu#k Joe Biden and you for voting for him.
He was always a right winger and alcoholic but really went off the rails when trump came in on the first term. He just became a drunken bundle of rage.
When we got the news he died I just said to my wife Oh well. Her sister his partner had died 10 years previously, lung cancer she was also an alcoholic and 3 pack a day smoker. The two of them fought constantly.
I have cut a few "friends" over the years finding who they truly are.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)If they're estranged there's no way to have any influence on them. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face, as they say.
YoshidaYui
(44,964 posts)THEY are not only addicted to the shit they listen to, they revel in it. I think Jessie Waters is one of the more hateful people I have ever seen, and Sean Hannity isn't much better, THIS COUNTRY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF WITHOUT FOX NEWS...ITS A HATE FEST OF SHIT AND LARA INGRAM MAKES ME WANT TO THROW SHIT A THE TV AND BREAK IT. SHE HAS THAT SMUG NAZI LOOK ...
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,903 posts)and tips for good health. Years back before the office was renovated they ran Fox News on the TV but not now. The place I go to get blood drawn for my periodic A1C checks doesnt run FOX news or MSNBC. It is a retro TV shows channel, not sure which but I am happy with watching retro shows vs. propaganda.
YoshidaYui
(44,964 posts)ご意見ありがとうございます、先生。
Bonx
(2,353 posts)mdbl
(8,115 posts)It's sad they turned out so willfully ignorant and unempathetic.
mucholderthandirt
(1,753 posts)If they truly believed in an afterlife, they have their answers now. Fuck them and the ass they rode in on.