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Celerity

(48,966 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:27 AM Saturday

The Biggest Scandal of the Second Trump Term Isn't "Signalgate"



The national security chat debacle certainly merits attention. But the Trump administration is now blatantly disappearing students and others who are in the country legally.

https://newrepublic.com/article/193291/trump-disappearing-students-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-biggest-scandal

https://archive.ph/rTJKF


Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Trump during a Cabinet meeting earlier this week

On March 26, 2024, Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish Ph.D. student at Tufts University, co-authored an op-ed criticizing the university’s response to student demands for divestment from Israel, which was published in its student newspaper. “Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide,” the authors wrote, referring to Israel’s disproportionate response to Hamas’s October 7 attacks. Aside from its focus on Tufts, a small private college outside Boston, it was hardly different from a lot of writing published in student newspapers across the country over the past two years—for that matter, it was little different from a lot of writing published in mainstream publications, including The New Republic.

On Tuesday, as captured on video, a half-dozen masked agents of the Department of Homeland Security ambushed Ozturk as she left her Somerville apartment to meet friends. She was surrounded, cuffed, led into an unmarked car, and driven away, apparently for the crime of having co-authored that op-ed. Despite a court order blocking authorities from removing her from Massachusetts without advance notice, she was flown to Louisiana—where many other visa holders like herself who have been critical of Israel are being held, such as Columbia University student Mahmoud Khalil. Masked agents snatching legal residents off the streets and disappearing them—not so long ago, this would be unthinkable in the United States. Now it is not only a regular occurrence but something that the Trump administration boasts about.

A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson claimed that Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas,” adding, “Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated.” But DHS has provided no evidence that Ozturk supported Hamas—indeed, the group is not mentioned in the offending op-ed. When asked Thursday about the student’s detention, Secretary of State Marco Rubio dismissed the uproar. “We revoked her visa … once you’ve lost your visa, you’re no longer legally in the United States,” he said. “If you come into the U.S. as a visitor and create a ruckus for us, we don’t want it. We don’t want it in our country. Go back and do it in your country.”

That was arguably not even the most chilling part of Rubio’s press conference. Rubio confirmed recent reporting that the U.S. State Department had revoked 300 student visas—most or all for criticizing Israel or protesting the war in Gaza—but then went further. “At some point, I hope we run out because we’ve gotten rid of all of them, but we’re looking every day for these lunatics that are tearing things up.” So you can expect this dragnet to get even worse.

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The Biggest Scandal of the Second Trump Term Isn't "Signalgate" (Original Post) Celerity Saturday OP
maga will not benefit w placements to fill holes in academia (students, profs). And will suffer economic impact Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #1
The vast majority of hardcore MAGAt voters hate (and are also jelly of, deep down) people who have 'fancy book learnin' Celerity Saturday #3
Both are scandalous malaise Saturday #2
So far, but this administration is not over yet, republianmushroom Saturday #4

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,818 posts)
1. maga will not benefit w placements to fill holes in academia (students, profs). And will suffer economic impact
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:47 AM
Saturday

The missing students and profs will include Americans fleeing tRumpism and the tens of thousands who will no longer be applying from abroad.

magas betters will be recruited of necessity from progressives and well-off con-servatives. Once again maga will not be able to compete, even when the playing field is tilted in their favour.

maga will hate this all over again.

Quite a number of them who rent rooms and apartments and run / work eateries and clothing stores and bars in college towns will notice a drop in business until conditions stabilize in whatever new form they take, be it tRumpism or partially reversed tRumpism or totally reversed tRumpism.

No benefits for maga at all from tRump regime multi-front attack on academia. Other than hate. Hate makes maga manipulable.

Celerity

(48,966 posts)
3. The vast majority of hardcore MAGAt voters hate (and are also jelly of, deep down) people who have 'fancy book learnin'
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
Saturday

They have a wilful hatred of applied intelligence, science, etc.

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