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marmar

(79,235 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:57 PM Mar 2025

The most chilling lesson of Signalgate


The most chilling lesson of Signalgate
From what we can see on newly released text messages, Trump's people don't know what he's talking about

By Heather Digby Parton
Columnist
Published March 26, 2025 9:07AM (EDT)


(Salon) It took two months, but we finally have our first "gate" of the second Trump administration: "Signalgate" — and it's a doozy. You are no doubt aware by now that The Atlantic has published an article reporting that the top national security officials known as the "Principals Committee" were gathered together in a Signal group chat to discuss the impending bombing campaign against the Houthi rebels in Yemen and accidentally included the magazine's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, in the chat without realizing it.

....(snip)....

That these high-level national security officials were all using a commercial app on personal phones that could easily be breached by state-level actors is bad enough. (One of the members on the call, special envoy Steve Witkoff, was actually in Moscow at the time.) But considering their previous outrage at Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server, you would have thought that it would have crossed the mind of at least one of them that this was dangerous. There is no other way to interpret any of that except to assume that they commonly use Signal for such discussions in contravention of every security protocol in the U.S. government.

When you think about it, though, why wouldn't they? Their leader stubbornly refused to give up his own personal phone and made a fetish of blabbing national security secrets since his first term. Recall that right after he fired FBI Director James Comey, he had the Russian foreign minister and ambassador over to the Oval Office for a chat where he shared some very closely held classified information (which later turned out to be about Israel). After he was out of office, he stole boxes full of classified documents, stored them in his toilet and refused to give them back. He was indicted for that but the Justice Department dropped the charges when he won the election.

....(snip)....

From what we could see on those text messages, his people don't know what he's talking about either, not even when he's ordering military strikes. The most chilling revelation to come out of all this may be that Stephen Miller is the person everyone turns to to explain what it is Trump really wants. ....................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/03/26/the-most-chilling-lesson-of-signalgate/




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underpants

(194,839 posts)
5. And he can steer Trump anyway he wants
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:45 PM
Mar 2025

Trump can’t admit anything is wrong. Since he thinks everything revolves around him then anything negative, he thinks, makes people see it as negative about him. Anything said or done no matter how distanced it is from him has to be right and the best.

John1956PA

(4,788 posts)
3. Trump did not personally order the strike.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:40 PM
Mar 2025

He left it up to his subordinates to decide what to do. That was a horrendous dereliction of presidential duty.


Initech

(107,409 posts)
6. No one will get punished, and Fox News will continue to spin this and kiss Trump's worthless ass into oblivion.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:50 PM
Mar 2025

I don't care if I have "Trump Derangement Syndrome" - this man and his ass kissing cronies are psychotic and worthless.

unblock

(55,906 posts)
9. "It took two months, but we finally have our first "gate" of the second Trump administration: "Signalgate""
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:58 PM
Mar 2025

More evidence of how pathetically rotten our media is. And salon is usually relatively decent as news sources go these days.

First "gate"?
Really?

Betraying an ally fighting for freedom?
Calling him disrespectful because he wears a uniform to honor his soldiers?
Shutting down social security offices and phone systems?
Giving no-clearance musk and his minions access to seemingly all government data? The keys to the treasury? Personal info of nearly everyone?
Slashing contracts?
Canceling payments for goods and services already rendered?
Extorting and shaking down media outlets, law firms, and major corporations?
Betraying trade agreements either allies?
Ignoring court orders?
Lying to judges?
Ignoring Congress?
Ignoring laws?

And the list goes on and on and on.

None of those are "gates"?

Nothing scandalous here?

What the everloving f*ck!

bluesbassman

(20,372 posts)
10. That speaks to the levels they've gone to in normalizing him.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:13 PM
Mar 2025

This probably would have slid under the bar they’ve set too if a respected journalist had not been sucked into the fray. Maybe the teflon is starting to peel off of him.

unblock

(55,906 posts)
12. Donnie will threaten a publisher or something and that will be that.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:04 PM
Mar 2025

They will make a big payment to Donnie slush fund and the editor will be fired or demoted or something.

Maybe, maybe, a hegseth or waltz will be fired first. But Donnie will carry the grudge and get his revenge sooner or later.

We don't have full fascist compliance yet, but we certainly don't much evidence to suggest strong, sustained resistance.

SunSeeker

(57,512 posts)
13. Yup, Stephen Miller is the Trump whisperer. He's Trump's new Roy Cohn
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:24 PM
Mar 2025

He kinda even looks like Roy Cohn.

calimary

(89,030 posts)
14. Yep. It took a mere TWO MONTHS.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:40 PM
Mar 2025

Stop and think about THAT for a moment.

And it’s not a small blunder from some out-of-the-way sidelined nobody-ever-heard-of-it-before department, either.

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