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Krasnov Didn't Green Light The Houthi Raid (Original Post) gab13by13 Mar 2025 OP
Of course, it was golf time for Krasnov. Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #1
I don't think Trump knew anything about it. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #2
Deny, deflect... superpatriotman Mar 2025 #4
I don't think Trump is running the government. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #3
The buck always stopped somewhere else. sakabatou Mar 2025 #5
he knows nothing... he is always golfing.... Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #6
It's like the Bush years RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #9
Exactly, they sent Bush a case of Jack Daniels every week to keep him occupied and quiet. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #20
And they sent him down to Florida to listen to a goat story RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #21
Yep keep the little cocaine addict occupied with tasks he could handle. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #22
Doesn't really matter though mr715 Mar 2025 #24
Krasnov isn't the president drmeow Mar 2025 #7
Semantics mr715 Mar 2025 #11
Project 2025 RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #14
Maybe so, but SCOTUS gives him blanket immunity anyway FakeNoose Mar 2025 #18
Likely mr715 Mar 2025 #8
I also suspect someone else gab13by13 Mar 2025 #10
Oh, well, isn't that interesting mr715 Mar 2025 #12
One person on the call was actually in the Kremlin in a meeting with Putin. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #23
Why would they have consulted or told Trump? chowmama Mar 2025 #13
And the perks. And revenge. NameAlreadyTaken Mar 2025 #17
Hard truth to see, that this is the decision-making that goes into an airstrike on a foreign country in this administr Walleye Mar 2025 #15
The decision to bomb an apartment complex gab13by13 Mar 2025 #16
We have heard very little about the dozens of people who were killed in this raid Walleye Mar 2025 #19

Irish_Dem

(79,910 posts)
2. I don't think Trump knew anything about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:41 PM
Mar 2025

When he was first asked about it, he didn't seem to know much about it.

RazorbackExpat

(894 posts)
9. It's like the Bush years
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:19 PM
Mar 2025

when Darth Cheney and Donald Duck Rumsfeld were the powers behind the throne

Irish_Dem

(79,910 posts)
20. Exactly, they sent Bush a case of Jack Daniels every week to keep him occupied and quiet.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 06:27 AM
Mar 2025

RazorbackExpat

(894 posts)
21. And they sent him down to Florida to listen to a goat story
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:29 AM
Mar 2025

while they carried out their nefarious plans

mr715

(2,754 posts)
24. Doesn't really matter though
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:54 AM
Mar 2025

So, he is acting as head of state instead of government. In our system, he is still spring from which power flows.

Some tories expressed support for the Commonwealth monarchy in terms of the separation between head of state and government, and how the King is inherently politically modulatory (by example, I suppose). I am increasingly sympathetic to that position, and while we can never and should never have a King, the idea of High Consul Obama is becoming very appealing.

Sigh. These times we live in.

mr715

(2,754 posts)
11. Semantics
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:20 PM
Mar 2025

He is President enough to cause this shit show.

The buck stops with him.

mr715

(2,754 posts)
8. Likely
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 2025

It could have reasonably been Susan Wiles.

We know it was not JD Vance because he took the incredibly bold position of doing whatever everyone else decides on.

Gabbard and Waltz don't seem to have that power.

The agents with the real authority there are Hegseth and Rubio. It is very likely that they are operating through Stephen Miller.


My money though is this was Hegseth's call, informed by all those other national security asses on the chat

gab13by13

(31,263 posts)
10. I also suspect someone else
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:20 PM
Mar 2025

I believe that MBS gave the green light.

2 of the people on the Signal call we’re in Saudi Arabia.

mr715

(2,754 posts)
12. Oh, well, isn't that interesting
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:21 PM
Mar 2025

so in addition to stupidity we can add a few spoonfuls of treason.

chowmama

(1,005 posts)
13. Why would they have consulted or told Trump?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:23 PM
Mar 2025

He doesn't want the job, he only wants the attention.

Walleye

(43,845 posts)
15. Hard truth to see, that this is the decision-making that goes into an airstrike on a foreign country in this administr
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:24 PM
Mar 2025

gab13by13

(31,263 posts)
16. The decision to bomb an apartment complex
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:52 PM
Mar 2025

where the girl friend of the target was living. Obviously not much thought was put into civilian casualties.

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