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speak easy

(10,844 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:32 AM 8 hrs ago

Who will Trump/Miller deport?

I'm guessing all undocumented immigrants convicted of a felony or misdemeanor and all who arrived during Biden's term (estimated 6+ million - deportations so far). That will put a cap on the numbers.

This would allow them to pitch it as cleaning up Biden's mess, while providing some relief to those who have been here longer.

What about those who arrived in the first term, 2017 - 2020? All in good time my little pretty, all in good time.

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Who will Trump/Miller deport? (Original Post) speak easy 8 hrs ago OP
This will be interesting in both timing and logistics not to mention damage to the economy dutch777 8 hrs ago #1
I expect these deportation raids to look more like a reality TV show Walleye 8 hrs ago #2
Trump said at one of his rallies Tickle 8 hrs ago #3
I see what you did there, i.e. what they will do: link "felony" and "immigrant" and "Biden" any way they can Bernardo de La Paz 8 hrs ago #4
The MAGA cult has made it clear they want everyone gone - including legal immigrants. Wiz Imp 7 hrs ago #5
Have to start somewhere. speak easy 7 hrs ago #6
You're giving them way too much credit. They don't give a damn. They want everyone gone. Wiz Imp 7 hrs ago #8
Well, I'm reading they just nabbed one of them in an agricultural community and Baitball Blogger 7 hrs ago #7
In 2023 Biden admin had 1.1M people ordered deported. Jacson6 6 hrs ago #9
6 million is undoable lame54 5 hrs ago #10
'more than 12 million people were "deported" - either removed or returned speak easy 5 hrs ago #11
That adds up... lame54 4 hrs ago #13
Trump is full of shit. speak easy 4 hrs ago #15
FWIW Obama deported more than 3 million people dalton99a 4 hrs ago #12
Who's gonna clean up LA...and build the new homes? 40% of residential building labor are immigrants. nt albacore 4 hrs ago #14
The immigrants who arrived before 2021. speak easy 4 hrs ago #16
Dunno about where you live.... albacore 1 hr ago #17
"And nobody asks about status" speak easy 7 min ago #18

dutch777

(3,672 posts)
1. This will be interesting in both timing and logistics not to mention damage to the economy
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:45 AM
8 hrs ago

As far as I have read, there is no system capability for hauling off, processing and housing a large number of people quickly. Plus doubtful that all people who may be targets will just hang out and wait to get picked up. So there may also be more than a few chases involved. And come harvest season in TX, NM, AZ, CA, FL, GA, OR, WA, etc. when there aren't enough workers available, will Barron Trump or other able bodied white guys be there to help? Unlikely.

Walleye

(36,714 posts)
2. I expect these deportation raids to look more like a reality TV show
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:47 AM
8 hrs ago

Of course everything Trump is involved with looks like a reality TV show

Tickle

(3,230 posts)
3. Trump said at one of his rallies
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:04 AM
8 hrs ago

That he was going to deputize local police departments. I have no idea how you do that but I'm watching

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,706 posts)
4. I see what you did there, i.e. what they will do: link "felony" and "immigrant" and "Biden" any way they can
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:21 AM
8 hrs ago

We shall see. You might be right. If they do just felonies and misdemeanors, then it might more show than substance.

There might be other kinds of lots of show like hundreds of thousands thrown into concentration camps as shown in Handmaid's Tale, all to the immense profit of Money Bros.

I don't think there will be a lot of quick deportations. The whole thing will swell up with various forms of incompetence from within the regime and resistance from outside.

Regardless, the disruption will be "yuge".

Wiz Imp

(2,619 posts)
5. The MAGA cult has made it clear they want everyone gone - including legal immigrants.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:04 AM
7 hrs ago

You really think they are going to take the time and effort required to identify just those convicted of a crime? They're going to go after anyone who "looks" like an "illegal" and at the very least detain them in camps or whatever for significant lengths of time.

speak easy

(10,844 posts)
6. Have to start somewhere.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:10 AM
7 hrs ago

Would not take much time or effort. Relatively easy to show you were in the country prior to 2021.

Wiz Imp

(2,619 posts)
8. You're giving them way too much credit. They don't give a damn. They want everyone gone.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:21 AM
7 hrs ago

Like I said, they will just start apprehending anyone and everyone who "looks" illegal and throw them into camps. Mark my words.

Baitball Blogger

(48,662 posts)
7. Well, I'm reading they just nabbed one of them in an agricultural community and
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:13 AM
7 hrs ago

the next day 75% of the labor force didn't show up to work in the farms.

So, this is going to get interesting.

Jacson6

(915 posts)
9. In 2023 Biden admin had 1.1M people ordered deported.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:25 AM
6 hrs ago

DJT is just going to play like he is deporting a million people a year when actually the US already does it.

speak easy

(10,844 posts)
11. 'more than 12 million people were "deported" - either removed or returned
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
5 hrs ago

from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration.'
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/13/politics/obama-trump-deportations-illegal-immigration/index.html

It is not 6 million. At least 2 million have been removed or returned. It's doable.

lame54

(37,255 posts)
13. That adds up...
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:42 PM
4 hrs ago

To the yearly average In the OP

Trump's promise(threat) is on day one

dalton99a

(85,154 posts)
12. FWIW Obama deported more than 3 million people
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:39 PM
4 hrs ago
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5207967/lessons-learned-from-when-the-obama-administration-deported-millions-of-people
Lessons learned from when the Obama administration deported millions of people
December 5, 2024 4:18 AM ET

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President
August 29, 2016, 1:05 PM

albacore

(2,645 posts)
14. Who's gonna clean up LA...and build the new homes? 40% of residential building labor are immigrants. nt
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:46 PM
4 hrs ago

albacore

(2,645 posts)
17. Dunno about where you live....
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:11 PM
1 hr ago

...but where I live - in the PNW - the labor crews are mostly more recent...a lot more recent. And nobody asks about status...$900K-$1mil houses going up and selling like hotcakes.
Word of mouth says a lot of labor is going back South - and I don't mean LA - for the winter, until this first wave of deportations is over.

speak easy

(10,844 posts)
18. "And nobody asks about status"
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:13 PM
7 min ago

... so there isn't wage discrimination against undocumented immigrants? Ot is it assumed that everyone is undocumented?

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