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orangecrush

(22,252 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:46 PM 20 hrs ago

So now we have Bluesky


How long will it be till someone comes up with an alternative to Facebook that is good enough to cause another mass exodus?

I shiver with delight at the possibility.

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So now we have Bluesky (Original Post) orangecrush 20 hrs ago OP
I like bluesky so far J-9 20 hrs ago #1
I wish that would happen edhopper 20 hrs ago #2
Blue skies/Willie Nelson cbabe 20 hrs ago #3
I'm shivering along with you. Baitball Blogger 19 hrs ago #4
Instagram too. Dont have facebook or threads.... but i really like instagram. IcyPeas 19 hrs ago #5
I like where your head's at ......nt DoBW 19 hrs ago #6
Thanks orangecrush 15 hrs ago #19
Bluesky is an alternative to Twitter/X, NOT Facebook. valleyrogue 19 hrs ago #7
THIS Mad_Machine76 18 hrs ago #8
Gonna check this. Isn't this run by Omar, the founder of AllyCat 17 hrs ago #15
I don't know. Mad_Machine76 2 hrs ago #32
That's the point Wiz Imp 17 hrs ago #13
We should all go back to MySpace Polybius 3 hrs ago #30
Exactly BUT orangecrush 15 hrs ago #20
"I am not going to give up FB" speak easy 12 hrs ago #25
Facebook is cancer JoseBalow 18 hrs ago #9
Bluesky doesn't seem likely to follow in Twitter's footsteps. summer_in_TX 15 hrs ago #18
Not if it were run orangecrush 15 hrs ago #21
Weaning myself off of facebook - will delete account on 1/20 Nictuku 18 hrs ago #10
What is Zuckerberg thinking? jgmiller 17 hrs ago #11
I like BlueSky, and I'm in the narket for a fb replacement too! ms liberty 17 hrs ago #12
Technically, it's not hard. usonian 17 hrs ago #14
Thanks for this orangecrush 15 hrs ago #22
We have a 14er in Colorado named Blue Sky DENVERPOPS 17 hrs ago #16
I Like BlueSky WiVoter 17 hrs ago #17
Same orangecrush 15 hrs ago #23
Im not sure its such a good idea to abandon twitter. TheDudeCa 13 hrs ago #24
Twitter is the current largest spreader of nazism, hatred, and disinformation. Twitter is laughable as a solution to FSogol 6 hrs ago #26
I think Elon changed the algorithm to push conservative posts. The government needs to look into it imo. TheDudeCa 5 hrs ago #27
Still laughable. Twitter is mostly Russian bots. FSogol 4 hrs ago #28
Problem with having the government look into twitter Attilatheblond 4 hrs ago #29
The government? Lulu KC 54 min ago #33
I see people flock from platform to platform, each promising to be better, snot 2 hrs ago #31

J-9

(39 posts)
1. I like bluesky so far
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:49 PM
20 hrs ago

I had a Twitter account but left long before Apartheid Leon.

@j969.bsky.social

valleyrogue

(1,263 posts)
7. Bluesky is an alternative to Twitter/X, NOT Facebook.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:47 PM
19 hrs ago

There is no real alternative to FB in terms of keeping contact with family and friends. Sorry, but for that reason I am not going to give up FB. I have photos I share with family and friends, and I like the different NON-POLITICAL groups over there. It is the best way to maintain contact. I have Instagram, but I rarely use it. I don't care for and don't use TikTok.

I still use Twitter/X because there are groups and topics I like to follow having nothing to do with politics. I am also on Bluesky.

Not everything is about politics.

Mad_Machine76

(24,795 posts)
8. THIS
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:05 PM
18 hrs ago

Bluesky is definitely NOT comparable to FB. There is a FB-like alternative out there I just started exploring called Tribel but it remains to be seen if it will grow into a viable alternative.

https://www.m.tribel.com/public/trending

Wiz Imp

(2,619 posts)
13. That's the point
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:00 PM
17 hrs ago

Bluesky has emerged as a sane alternative to Twitter. Now if only someone would come up with a sane alternative to Facebook, then everyone could dump facebook like they've dumped Twitter.

speak easy

(10,843 posts)
25. "I am not going to give up FB"
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:05 AM
12 hrs ago

Every American on FB adds to their power. "I am not going to give up FB" = I don't care.

summer_in_TX

(3,351 posts)
18. Bluesky doesn't seem likely to follow in Twitter's footsteps.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:22 AM
15 hrs ago

Thankfully.

They allow the user to control their own experience to a remarkable degree. Nice to have a woman as CEO. Seems to have a more pro-social outlook than the South African billionaire does. I think a number have people have expressed willingness to pay for an account, but it's still free. And no advertising! Refreshing.

As for FB, it has such a large number of users that it is unequaled in organizing, unfortunately for my desire to get rid of it. I manage several organizations' Facebook pages and groups, so leaving is not an option unless I'm willing to stop volunteering.

Nictuku

(3,947 posts)
10. Weaning myself off of facebook - will delete account on 1/20
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:41 PM
18 hrs ago

BlueSky and DU are working for me. facebook is mostly ads or sponsored shit, lots of those do misdirects and try to scare you (VIRUS!!!) into calling their call center.

And now with this latest, no fact checkers and backing down on DEI bs, that is enough

jgmiller

(455 posts)
11. What is Zuckerberg thinking?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:54 PM
17 hrs ago

I have 3 ideas

1. He is just purely sucking up to Trump, this is way too simplistic he lived through the other 4 years of Trump and he's got a lot more money and power now.
2. He's got whatever billionaire disease that hit Musk, Thiel and Bezos. He's always been a little creep but this stuff seems way to quick for me. Musk has been on the path to total insanity for years.
3. He see's that even though half the US hates Musk and has abandonned X the other half loves his and is embracing X and now Zuckerberg figures this is what can save FB/IG. Maybe he's anticipating Musk burning out very soon and X collapsing so he wants to be positioned to pick up the refugees.

Honestly I'm not sure which is true but I'm leaning towards #3

ms liberty

(9,896 posts)
12. I like BlueSky, and I'm in the narket for a fb replacement too!
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:56 PM
17 hrs ago

I have spent less and less time there for a while now. The latest news just makes me more done with them.

usonian

(15,058 posts)
14. Technically, it's not hard.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:03 PM
17 hrs ago

Without all the "Surveillance Capitalism" which requires massive tracking of everything you post, and auctioning your data to advertisers, instead of giant data centers the size of a small town, small operations can work fine. (and AI is exponentially increasing the power and computing demand, for reasons that few people outside the porn creation world can make use of)

Craig's List started out with a computer or two in Crag Newmark's closet.

I don't know much about it now, but get this: Craig sells ads to users with something to sell. All the others sell users to advertisers, and in the most disreputable way.

Surveillance Capitalism
Harvard Business School:
https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=56791


Abstract
In this masterwork of original thinking and research, Shoshana Zuboff provides startling insights into the phenomenon that she has named surveillance capitalism. The stakes could not be higher: a global architecture of behavior modification threatens human nature in the 21st century just as industrial capitalism disfigured the natural world in the 20th.

Zuboff vividly brings to life the consequences as surveillance capitalism advances from Silicon Valley into every economic sector. Vast wealth and power are accumulated in ominous new “behavioral futures markets,” where predictions about our behavior are bought and sold, and the production of goods and services is subordinated to a new “means of behavioral modification.”

The threat has shifted from a totalitarian Big Brother state to a ubiquitous digital architecture: a “Big Other” operating in the interests of surveillance capital. Here is the crucible of an unprecedented form of power marked by extreme concentrations of knowledge and free from democratic oversight. Zuboff’s comprehensive and moving analysis lays bare the threats to 21st century society: a controlled “hive” of total connection that seduces with promises of total certainty for maximum profit—at the expense of democracy, freedom, and our human future.

With little resistance from law or society, surveillance capitalism is on the verge of dominating the social order and shaping the digital future—if we let it.


Interview with the author: Shoshana Zuboff
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/03/harvard-professor-says-surveillance-capitalism-is-undermining-democracy/

DENVERPOPS

(10,301 posts)
16. We have a 14er in Colorado named Blue Sky
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:27 PM
17 hrs ago

Renamed recently due to the previous name being an asshole from our earlier years.....

TheDudeCa

(4 posts)
24. Im not sure its such a good idea to abandon twitter.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:30 AM
13 hrs ago

Twitter basically the media now. Its scary, but there needs to be something bigger than Blue sky

FSogol

(46,865 posts)
26. Twitter is the current largest spreader of nazism, hatred, and disinformation. Twitter is laughable as a solution to
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:40 AM
6 hrs ago

the media.

TheDudeCa

(4 posts)
27. I think Elon changed the algorithm to push conservative posts. The government needs to look into it imo.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
5 hrs ago

Because its influence is massive right now.

FSogol

(46,865 posts)
28. Still laughable. Twitter is mostly Russian bots.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:06 PM
4 hrs ago


Oh and the RW government is going to look into RW disinformation? Grab a clue!

Attilatheblond

(4,805 posts)
29. Problem with having the government look into twitter
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:18 PM
4 hrs ago

Is that Musk bought the largest share of the government already. Hostile corporate takeovers are a thing.

Lulu KC

(5,277 posts)
33. The government?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:59 PM
54 min ago

You mean the government that he appears to control to a large degree? How would that work?

snot

(10,893 posts)
31. I see people flock from platform to platform, each promising to be better,
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 02:40 PM
2 hrs ago

each privately owned and with terms of service that permit changes and sales at-will by the owner and otherwise minimizing any rights of users (including free speech or privacy rights).

Imho, we might as well all have saved ourselves a lot of trouble and stayed on MySpace or Friendster, unless and until we actually have a platform owned and controlled by the users (like a credit union, which not only charges no fees to maintain a checking account there but actually pays interest on the balance and generally treats members much better than commercial banks do).

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