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Worth reading the whole piece, although I know it contradicts DU conventional wisdom.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/12/30/the-opportunity-costs-of-conspiracy-theories-about-merrick-garland/
You have a choice.
You can spend the next few weeks laying the groundwork for making a big stink about the fact that the aspiring FBI Director tried to help Trump steal classified documents.
Or you can spend it clinging to false claims about Merrick Garland so you can blame him for the fact that Trump won reelection rather than blaming the guy directly responsible for preventing a trial (and the guy wholl remain responsible for Trumps license going forward), John Roberts, to say nothing of the failed Democratic consultants and voters themselves.
Sadly, Democrats and lefties from random people on Bluesky to TV lawyers to the President himself are choosing the latter path, the path that will guarantee they remain maximally ineffective.
Theyre rolling out all the tired false claims: Merrick Garland waited before investigating people close to Trump, they claim. According to NYT, Garland approved an effort to follow the money in his first meeting with prosecutors an effort that turned out to be a dry hole, but nevertheless was precisely the approach that people like Sheldon Whitehouse and Andrew Weissmann demanded.
She lays out a very good argument about Roberts making Trump above the law. Much more at link
dalton99a
(85,153 posts)emulatorloo
(45,644 posts)MineralMan
(148,144 posts)He didn't put Trump in prison, so it must have been some sort of conspiracy. That's the logic or illogic in use by some.
Meanwhile, we got a nasty majority in the SCOTUS, which threw a huge monkey wrench into the works. Trump did that, not Garland.
It's incredibly difficult to prosecute a POTUS, as we've all seen. We never had to do that before, and there wasn't a clear path to it. So, it didn't happen in time to prevent him from running again. And then, he won that office again...in part due to some of us shifting our blame from one place to another and losing sight of the real target.
So, now, we're facing some rocky roads ahead. Very rocky. And, if things go as they usually do, we'll keep making the mistake of blaming the wrong people for that, too.
We run the risk of never getting control of government again. The primary blame is on Trump and his enablers. But, there's plenty of blame to go around. A mirror would also be useful in spotting potential blamees, I think.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)If I recall correctly, a televised, armed coup was attempted in front of the entire world to watch, and garland's doj didn't immediately clamp down on every single person involved.
There really isn't any more to it.
MineralMan
(148,144 posts)None of it is magical. Every perpetrator has the right to a trial and must be indicted by a grand jury. That's the law.
You want shortcuts because, well, you think that's a good thing. Think again, please. Harder and longer this time.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)MineralMan
(148,144 posts)Everyone left after the insurrection. They had to be identified and charged before they could be arrested, since they were not caught in the act.
And they were. Most were identified from videos and photos by people who actually knew them. There was an easy way to report something like that, and such reports were followed up.
You try to make it all sound very simple, but it never was simple at all.
And then there were the main perpetrators. Before they could be charged, evidence had to be collected and plans made for charging and prosecution. That takes longer. And, in the case of a POTUS, much longer.
You're not an expert on such things. Neither am I. However I know how complicated they can be and how much time is needed to do the job. And, it was done. Not to your satisfaction, of course. Frankly, I doubt you could ever be satisfied - assuming you are actually speaking your mind and not doing some sort of obfuscation.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)MineralMan
(148,144 posts)at that time. Not in those numbers. The insurrectionists simply walked away. Maybe you don't remember the situation very well. I do.
There were not enough law enforcement people on the scene to arrest all of those people. They had to be identified and tracked down later. And that was done - quite well, in fact.
Many of the things you are saying are simply not accurate. Now, I don't know why that is, but they aren't. Once it was clear that forces were showing up to put an end to the insurrection, people simply left the area right away. I watched that happen. They were there, and suddenly they weren't. Donald J. Trump was largely responsible for there being too few law enforcement people on scene. That was deliberate. However, proving that is not as simple as saying it.
So, if you're going to say things that aren't so, I'm going to point those things out. Yes, I am.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)Hours went by with the world watching it happen on tv, and nothing was done to stop them. For hours.
I'm sorry, but I can't join you in shrugging our shoulders and pretending the best possible courses of action were taken.
MineralMan
(148,144 posts)He was responsible for it.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)emulatorloo
(45,644 posts)We gotta stick together and avoid trashing Democrats and their allies.
Think. Again.
(19,697 posts)...that they couldn't both be rightwingers at the same time?
LeftInTX
(31,161 posts)Garland is Jewish and his family name was Garfinkel.
gab13by13
(25,564 posts)She has been wrong about Garland's strategy from the beginning. She would gain more respect if she just said, I was wrong.
The J6 committee stated that Garland waited too long. I am taking their word over Marci's.
JanMichael
(25,351 posts)Pride or something else I imagine.
Autumn
(46,815 posts)That's not going to change. I didn't read past the first paragraph because I realized the article was written by one of Garlands fans who has been saying the same thing since people started complaining about his inaction.
emulatorloo
(45,644 posts)No need to read anything you dont want to. Nor is there any need to comment on articles you havent read.
Autumn
(46,815 posts)her BS. Her writing is like a one trick pony with all the the conspiracy theories and only she knows how everything works.
dsc
(52,723 posts)and even now, he is pretending that there is some chance for this case to move forward. Those reports should have been written in July and released in July. Had that been done, we might not be where we are now.
kacekwl
(7,685 posts)all the Republican members who were involved in the insurrection directly or indirectly. What about those who met at the hotel to plan the coup ? So many got away with so much.
emulatorloo
(45,644 posts)republianmushroom
(18,369 posts)President Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes
Updated May 16, 2023
As of April 2023, Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for president in 2015. That total only reflects allegations relating to his time in or running for office and omits, for instance, Trumps criminal exposure for fraudulent business dealings.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/#table