May he rest in peace, having tried to tell us all the way things really are:

George Carlin, 100% dead on, with this rant years ago, describing the future...............

But we are not laughing now.

accurate he was. The country is really in crisis never experienced before. I'm really fascinated curious and very watchful how Americans will respond or react.

Smirk/Giggle/Fart....

With the GOP making it a crime to treat dying women, we are now lower than American livestock and pets.
People are allowed to treat dying pets and farm animals.

My Dad was US career military and he did not fly combat in three wars so his daughter and granddaughters
would be treated worse than gd barnyard animals.

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That fucking orange-faced, forked-tongued BASTARD.

One Person, One Vote.......

Like one of Hitler's henchmen once said, we don't care about the votes, we only care about who is counting them........

Did a lot of growing up since then.

She told me if I chose not to say it she would support me. In her opinion, the last line made the whole thing invalid.

I was in elementary school.

when all of a sudden in the 50's they ADDED the phrase, UNDER GOD.............

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I would make childishly funny word changes or burp or not say it at all. As a 7 year old or so I somehow knew it did not feel right to just mindlessly do it. Nobody ever told me to be that way…but the school psychologist got involved because I wouldn’t comply!

They'll claim that is why Trump was not sentenced.

We had to have a conversation with some of the teachers but they got my point.

and they were furious but they could not force him to... I just did it because it had no real meaning to me then anyway

Justice is infinitely adjustable

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"In America, nobody is above the law"

yeah, not so much.

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I even think they added “under god” much later.

….along with “no man is above the law” crap that DOJ spewed.

that Garland is haunted by what is about to become of his precious DOJ. What he was so worried about protecting is about to be turned into a organized crime ring. He protected nothing.

it's aspirational. but i have no desire to recite the pledge of allegiance. i don't swell with pride when i hear the national anthem. i used to. I remember walking down the street and thinking how lucky I was to have been born in the USA.

republicans turned it into a shithole country. If I had the means and my family was with me, I would leave.

As it is I will be here and I will be a part of The Opposition, and I will resist and i will not change, or shut up about it.

Loads of nonsense. We have zero credibility about going around wagging our finger at other countries for not being democracies.

That one hasn't aged well either.....

has never been fully lived up to, I refuse to drop those words as a value to promote, despite corrupt courts and the power of oligarchs.

If those words are ever to have meaning as a reality, it will happen only when enough people are committed to those words to make them happen.

As a retired person, I am not exposed to settings where the pledge is recited. I do not feel a need or desire to recite the pledge and I take exception to other parts of it as well.

But I can and do feel committed to the goal of "liberty and justice for all."

"...liberty and justice for the rich......"

"...one nation under tRump.... "

While taking away voting rights, woman’s rights, LGBTQ rights. Where’s our liberty to have these freedoms?

you've abandoned all agency still left to every single one of We The People.

Us and he’ll promise them immunity.

Remember Hitler 2.0 has total immunity in carrying out presidential duties. And who’s to say he won’t use it to go after his enemies in states that didn’t vote for him?

Why do you think "when "we the people " are annihilated" or "who's to say" when it didn't happen the first shot he took. Why do you think he's so powerful, or his "magaloons" are in such great numbers. They're not.
Biden has time and time again told you that "America is an idea." If you think an idea can die in the next four years, if you think that millions of your American brothers and sisters won't fight for their children's freedom and futures, think again.

It's a big country. Democracy has millions more allies than the 23% who voted for the Felon.

https://thefederalnewswire.com/stories/665892188-litigation-coalition-forming-to-confront-trump-administration-policies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Alliance

https://www.propublica.org/topics/trump-administration

https://breakingnewsusa.com



Do NOT give in to your fear. Do not let your fear drive your imagination. Try not to post fear.
Take heart. Know that millions of all of us are together in this righteous fight for our descendants' future.

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And an illusion is a falsehood.

I expect that the OP is NOT saying that he disagrees with the ideal of liberty and justice for all.

I presume that the OP is removing an illusion from his own mind that the United States, as a country, actually values liberty and justice for all. “Liberty and justice for all” is more of a slogan, a pretense, than an authentic value of the U.S. in 2025.

Pointing out the illusion, the deception, is a community service.

It’s quite a different area from “you can’t love your country only when you win”.
It’s more like “you can’t admit reality only when you are proud of it”.

"I never want to hear..." is a statement of permanence.
It 'never wants to hear' any post of Biden OR the Felon saying it. Disillusionment, as you interpret it, is usually a temporary emotion that can drive what one says and does, but one needs to be careful about using always and never driven by a temporary emotion.
It's more helpful to sit with one's disillusionment than to later say "oh I really didn't mean that."

Appreciate your effort, but gotta say that as long as you choose to interpret the OP as disillusionment, any reader can also reasonably interpret "never want to hear" as a permanent removing of oneself from 'small d' democratic talk that reflects on America as an "idea," which Joe Biden has claimed for years. It can also be interpreted as a more permanent loss of faith in ideas upheld and defended by Americans since the founding.

But historically our losses don't reflect the best of our party or the country. Disillusion prevents one from an historical and/or numbers perspective -- that the majority of this country has not voted GOP for a long time, and this time, not for the criminality that surrounds the Felon or the Heritage ideas that will hurt them if enacted. Many high visibility figures have said this.

Overall, the words "never want" only reflect a personal reality. If they prove any relatable exterior reality, it's that rule of law, equality under the law, are down. But not out.

That's just my opinion.

Some of the younger generation that i know is beyond fed up with the US land-of-vultures. They have found opportunity, civility, more educated people in other countries. On occasion they say they’d prefer to never come back, and if currently here, they say they can’t see themselves staying.

If they’ve had the experience of living abroad, they no longer find the US to be the seat of civilization, nor a place of “liberty and justice for all”. It’s not that they don’t believe in “liberty and justice for all” as an ideal, but they admire certain other countries as being closer to that ideal that our own.

You mention “faith in ideas”, but isn’t it “faith in America” where we may have some difference?

I also hope that it will become a goal. We must get dark money out of our way.

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Act accordingly, as conscience and circumstance dictate.

"..the land of the free.."

More BS.

Sorry, Superman.

not for us (serfdom). Absolutely sickening.

I've used the term 10 times this a.m alone.

I expect it of myself and a few of my family appreciate my view.

Not the status quo.

Is another RW go-to word.
To them, any original meaning of this word is lost and gone forever.

* and "In God We Trust".

I don’t do the hands to the heart, don’t say the words.

It’s a farce!

Just as I refuse to surrender the flag to the Neo-Nazis and Proud Boys, I'm not about to surrender my pledge to it either. The fascists may choose to think those words don't matter, but I am here to remind them with my last breath: "liberty and justice for all" means LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL.

nm

Militias are not necessary now.

As far as I'm concerned, the Second Amendment
only applies to muzzle loading, smooth bore,
black powder firearms.