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hawkeye21

(313 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:43 PM Jan 2025

Why did Carter's family allow Trump to desecrate Jimmy's funeral? And how can Obama sit next to him and laugh?

I don't get it. It's probably just me, but I think it's deplorable that the criminal, traitorous dictator was allowed to attend the funeral. And I can't imagine being Barack Obama and sitting next to the neo-Nazi madman and laughing it up. What the hell is going on?

It sickens me to see any decent human being having anything to do with the orange pile of scum who's about to be given the keys to the country again. Playing nice with dictators and oligarachs has never worked, and this one is among the worst. That picture of Neville Chamberlain shaking hands with Hitler has aged well . . .

Decent people everywhere should shun the sexual deviant and felon at every turn. It will be another national disgrace, IMHO, if any Democrat shows up on Jan. 20 at the same spot where, about four years ago, he tried to overthrow the US government. How any Democrat, how any decent person could watch that farce and pretend it's all OK is way, way, way beyond me. I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. And shame on any Democrat who does.

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Why did Carter's family allow Trump to desecrate Jimmy's funeral? And how can Obama sit next to him and laugh? (Original Post) hawkeye21 Jan 2025 OP
Perhaps he had an edible so as to take the edge off. Trellastic Jan 2025 #1
Yeah.. or else his coping is like mine when dealing with someone that detestable... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #5
I was thinking nitrous oxide to counter the methane dickthegrouch Jan 2025 #23
Trump or Obama? Deep State Witch Jan 2025 #25
It was Jimmy Carter's personal funeral plan and given such plans are updated every 3 months... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #2
I think the Carter Family should have realized some lepers can't be cured. Conjuay Jan 2025 #6
They would have been both personally and likely officially bound to honor his wishes... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #9
We don't live in those times anymore. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2025 #11
We certainly do. Google is your friend. hlthe2b Jan 2025 #15
They did not ask you, evidently Hekate Jan 2025 #3
How dare they not run the guest list by me? newdeal2 Jan 2025 #10
Exactly Hekate Jan 2025 #13
Obama is so above trump. He is incredibly diplomatic. LakeArenal Jan 2025 #36
Thats a lil rough. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2025 #18
They are all ex-presidents and have free will newdeal2 Jan 2025 #19
I can't begin to imagine... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2025 #20
Ban Trumpy from your funeral and dictate that no one smile. FSogol Jan 2025 #4
A huge Xanax and a clothes pin on the nose BigmanPigman Jan 2025 #7
The Clintons, and Bush diss Trump and made me smile. Like orange man was not even there to them. SARose Jan 2025 #8
The Clintons also snubbed W. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #17
Why ? It would just make it about Trump JI7 Jan 2025 #12
President Obama Traildogbob Jan 2025 #14
Plus the orange tint was of a particularly obnoxious "flavor" on tv. So I can only imagine how it looked hlthe2b Jan 2025 #16
Gotta be funny live and up close. Traildogbob Jan 2025 #21
Obama was and is the grown up. As such, babylonsister Jan 2025 #22
This is the correct answer oldtime dfl_er Jan 2025 #30
Like it or not, he was president and will be president again. valleyrogue Jan 2025 #24
"it's a club and you ain't in it" Klarkashton Jan 2025 #26
looks like the wives are sitting to the left of their husbands lynintenn Jan 2025 #27
I imagine that's very close to the reason babylonsister Jan 2025 #35
Obama chumming it up with him, "decorum" or whatever, was not a good look. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2025 #28
It's one thing to be cooly cordial BlueKota Jan 2025 #31
True Christianity bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #29
I sincerely doubt it. BlueKota Jan 2025 #34
Now that he could kill everyone of us, all of civilization with a snap of his fingers, we DontBelieveEastisEas Jan 2025 #32
Because Jimmy Carter was a peacemaker. nolabear Jan 2025 #33
Dude, I'm not going to argue with Carter's final wishes Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Jan 2025 #38

Trellastic

(69 posts)
1. Perhaps he had an edible so as to take the edge off.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jan 2025

That's one possible reason. I would not be surprised if everyone over the age of 18 pre-medicated in one way or another just to tolerate Trump's presence.

hlthe2b

(109,075 posts)
5. Yeah.. or else his coping is like mine when dealing with someone that detestable...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:52 PM
Jan 2025

One just sort of looks upon them as though in an out-of-body experience as the true moron they are. Maybe a few real-time fantasies about what awaits him sooner than later.

hlthe2b

(109,075 posts)
2. It was Jimmy Carter's personal funeral plan and given such plans are updated every 3 months...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jan 2025

he would have had to approve the inclusion of Trump.

Why? 1. Because it was expected per tradition; and 2. because Pres. Jimmy Carter was "better" than most of us and tried to set a "higher" example.

hlthe2b

(109,075 posts)
9. They would have been both personally and likely officially bound to honor his wishes...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jan 2025

As I said, these State Funeral plans are reviewed every three months, and the official part falls to the Joint Task Force-National Capital Region, a division of the Military District of Washington and is carried out at taxpayer expense. That doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. You might say, well, remember McCain's funeral... Well, his was not a Presidential State funeral, so the rules are different...

newdeal2

(2,280 posts)
10. How dare they not run the guest list by me?
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jan 2025

And how dare people act differently than I imagined in my head.

LakeArenal

(29,941 posts)
36. Obama is so above trump. He is incredibly diplomatic.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:45 PM
Jan 2025

Also, polite, classy, superior in every way.

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,863 posts)
18. Thats a lil rough.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jan 2025

I can't imagine any scenario where I could yuck it up with Trump any more than I could see myself yucking it up with Hitler or Lucifer.

newdeal2

(2,280 posts)
19. They are all ex-presidents and have free will
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:19 PM
Jan 2025

I remember hearing the Clintons planned to go to his inauguration. Why, after all she’s been through, is not really my concern.

BigmanPigman

(52,839 posts)
7. A huge Xanax and a clothes pin on the nose
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:54 PM
Jan 2025

are the only way I would be able to be in the same room as the fucking moron.

SARose

(1,303 posts)
8. The Clintons, and Bush diss Trump and made me smile. Like orange man was not even there to them.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 05:56 PM
Jan 2025

From VetWife at Daily Kos

I watched the Carter Funeral and this one was very sad but GW Bush and Bill Clinton and Hillary and Laura dissed Trump in a way that was described in the way to treat him in a diary I wrote yesterday. ( Glad they felt the same way as I did). Ha….Hillary looked angry having to be in the same room with him and Bush looked almost as frustrated. I thought it was magnificent that Bush had to walk past him and shake everyone else’s hand and just ignore Trump.

Upon second look, it appears the Carter family paid no greeting as well.

See clip here

This is the way it is done - ignore him!

Karen Pence, too. Way to go, Mother!

Traildogbob

(10,922 posts)
14. President Obama
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jan 2025

Could not help but laugh as trump non stop flapped his facial anus, while his neck Labia flapped like a flag on a ship. Sitting right next to that has to be hilarious (Hillary-arious) to see. And deep in those neck crevices, the pure Snow White meat is highlighted by the dark orange paint on the outer layers. There May even be some MickyD sesame seeds stuck down in there.
Who would not laugh????

hlthe2b

(109,075 posts)
16. Plus the orange tint was of a particularly obnoxious "flavor" on tv. So I can only imagine how it looked
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jan 2025

in person... I'd be laughing as I tried to decide what type of orange it most resembled.

babylonsister

(171,977 posts)
22. Obama was and is the grown up. As such,
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jan 2025

he did what decorum dictated, as repulsive as that might have been for him. Today was not about Obama or von shitzenpantz despite your perception.

valleyrogue

(1,974 posts)
24. Like it or not, he was president and will be president again.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jan 2025

Of course he had to be there. So were the Clintons, so were the Bushes, so was Obama, so were the Bidens. So were the various VPs, at least what I saw (I don't know if the Cheneys were there). It is simply protocol and common decency to invite the current and former presidents, the current and former VPs, and their spouses to the funeral of a president of the U.S.

I don't like Trump, either, but c'mon. He and Melania had to be there. They didn't create any scene.

lynintenn

(802 posts)
27. looks like the wives are sitting to the left of their husbands
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jan 2025

that means Michelle would have been sitting next to trump. If this is protocol it could be the reason she was a no show

babylonsister

(171,977 posts)
35. I imagine that's very close to the reason
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:07 PM
Jan 2025

without verbalizing it...yet? People are speculating.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,288 posts)
28. Obama chumming it up with him, "decorum" or whatever, was not a good look.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jan 2025

Even W snubbed that fucking asshole without a second glance.

When W comes off looking better than you at anything, it’s not good.

BlueKota

(4,184 posts)
31. It's one thing to be cooly cordial
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jan 2025

out of consideration for decorum, and a different thing to be yucking it up with a want to be dictator who wants to destroy everything good about this country. Who by the way is the polar opposite of everything the man they were there to remember stood for.

Others can feel how they want to, and though I am sure nobody gives a crap about what I think, I have to admit I feel disappointed in Obama today.

bucolic_frolic

(49,730 posts)
29. True Christianity
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jan 2025

There may be some moderating influence on President Felon if he's guided to be one of the pack?

BlueKota

(4,184 posts)
34. I sincerely doubt it.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:49 PM
Jan 2025

Narcissistic Personality Disorder can't be "cured," even by trained Psychiatrists. tsf is always going to be a sf. He is what he is and there is nothing anyone can do that will turn him into a decent human being.

DontBelieveEastisEas

(1,211 posts)
32. Now that he could kill everyone of us, all of civilization with a snap of his fingers, we
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jan 2025

must treat him with honor and respect so that he might want to live up to that.

"Decent people everywhere should shun the sexual deviant and felon"

If we were to do that it would hurt his feelings and put humanity in more danger.

nolabear

(43,661 posts)
33. Because Jimmy Carter was a peacemaker.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jan 2025

Didn’t you hear person after person say he was kind and decent and had dignity that extended to all? Didn’t you hear them play “Imagine”?

We can rave and snark and get our jollies insulting someone we fear will cause even more harm than he has, and it’s understandable, but it’s not the best of our natures. Jimmy had something that’s hard to have, and his funeral rightly honored that.

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