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Johnny2X2X

(21,965 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 11:27 AM Thursday

Private Equity lobbying Trump for access to your 401K

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/private-equity-in-401-k-plans-highly-risky-for-the-average-investor-6eced355

So this is interesting. 401Ks offer tax benefits to savers, that's why what is allowed in them is regulated. Since these accounts are tax deferred, the government doesn't want highly risky investments available to people who could lose big and not be prepared to retire and pay taxes on their income then.

These are sometimes complicated investment options that the average person will have trouble understanding, but they'll promise better returns without full explaining the risks. And when I say that, I am coming from the perspective of someone with an MBA with a focus on Finance, and this stuff is not something I am always comfortable with. And the fees will be higher.

This will happen because it helps Trump's rich pals at Blackstone. They'll push it as, "people can make their own decisions." Might work out well for some, but others will surely have their 401Ks ruined. I don't trust Trump's billionaire pals in finance any further than I can throw them.
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Private Equity lobbying Trump for access to your 401K (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Thursday OP
And of course a requirement for free cash to be in a tsf approved e-coin fund..... getagrip_already Thursday #1
Interesting math: $7.4 trillion in 401K funds...Could be major boost to $3.5 T in US private equity lostnfound Thursday #2
Context from the Googles Johnny2X2X Thursday #3
Similar Backgrounds ProfessorGAC Thursday #4
So I got to know one of my finance professors well Johnny2X2X Thursday #5
It Looks Like Something... ProfessorGAC Thursday #6

getagrip_already

(17,611 posts)
1. And of course a requirement for free cash to be in a tsf approved e-coin fund.....
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 12:03 PM
Thursday

If not a requirement, then there will likely be a preferred option for it added.

Rather than t bills or some other low risk place to park money not in stocks, im sure they will offer or require e-coin accounts, which is absolute high risk.

lostnfound

(16,767 posts)
2. Interesting math: $7.4 trillion in 401K funds...Could be major boost to $3.5 T in US private equity
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 01:27 PM
Thursday

PE funds at end of 2023 had $3.5 T invested while public markets were at $54 T (NASDAQ + NYSE). (Source).

Basic math: If $1 T of 401 K money transferred to PE, that could be a 25% or 30% boost to PE; while it could be a 2% dilution to public markets.

Which could create further momentum, as wealth funds seek growth.

Johnny2X2X

(21,965 posts)
3. Context from the Googles
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 01:38 PM
Thursday

Private equity is an investment in a privately held company, while public equity is an investment in a publicly traded company. Public equity is more accessible and liquid, while private equity is riskier and less liquid.
Accessibility:
Public equity
Anyone with an investment account can buy shares of publicly traded companies.
Private equity
Only those with access to the listing can invest, which is usually restricted to high net-worth individuals.

Liquidity:
Public equity: Investors can buy and sell shares quickly.
Private equity: Investments are typically long-term, with funds locked in for several years.

Risk:
Public equity
Returns are generally more stable but can be influenced by market volatility.
Private equity
Often targets higher returns, but has higher risks due to less liquidity and transparency.

So you can imagine why tis can seem shady.

ProfessorGAC

(70,989 posts)
4. Similar Backgrounds
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 01:49 PM
Thursday

I have an MBA with a focus in finance & economics.
I let the professionals handle my retirement money, 100%
The guardrails within which they operate created a strong sense of security.
I understand business finance. That doesn't make me an investment expert!

Johnny2X2X

(21,965 posts)
5. So I got to know one of my finance professors well
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 02:00 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jan 9, 2025, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Guy was a whiz in all the equations, knew every financial devices inside and out. Had him for 4 or 5 classes. The investors in class were always picking his brain on one thing or another. His response always was the same, "you won't beat the markets long term", especially now with electronic trading using super computers (and soon AI). Slow, steady, and long term is the way to go.

Basically, I see private equity accessing 401K funds as throwing bait to sharks. Private equity are the predators, the villains they make corporate raider themed movies about, handing them $1 Trillion of the 401Ks of regular folks is asking for disaster. These people make Gordon Gecko look like a boy scout.

It will be sold as, "finally make these insider investments, previously only available to millionaires and billionaires, are now available to you..."

There is no get rich scheme, especially when it comes to your 401K. But the beauty of this country still is that if you're able to invest for 3 or 4 decades solid, you can retire at least semi wealthy, anyone can.

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