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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChuck Schumer says Democrats would support renaming the Gulf of Mexico if Trump works with them to lower costs
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Wednesday that Democrats were open to President-elect Donald Trump's idea of renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America."
However, he noted that he'd only do so if Trump works with Democrats on "an actual plan to lower costs for Americans."
"That is what the American people want us to focus on first, not on renaming bodies of water," Schumer said in a floor speech, adding that his party's priorities "are so much more closely aligned with the concerns of the American people than Donald Trump's seem to be.
Trump floated the idea at a press conference at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday, where he also refused to rule out the use of military force to take control of Greenland or the Panama Canal.
The Democratic leader's comments essentially amount to a challenge to Trump to focus on the economic issues that helped him regain the presidency, rather than merely changing names.
https://www.businessinsider.com/chuck-schumer-renaming-gulf-mexico-trump-lowering-costs-2025-1
We have been thrown overboard.
We are deeply and truly fucked.
Irish_Dem
(78,878 posts)1. Trump will NEVER do anything to help the American people.
2. Trump will never compromise with the Dems.
3. Trump will break any deal he makes.
4. Are we going to give in to Trump's insanity and enable and encourage it?
5. The US has become the dysfunctional family from hell. Appeasing and coddling the trouble makers.
Ocelot II
(128,702 posts)with changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico, which Trump can't actually do on an internationally-recognized basis (it's international waters, and the US owns only the 1st 12 miles off its coast), if Trump agrees to do something Schumer knows Trump will never do. So he's not making a deal at all; he's just fucking with Trump.
Irish_Dem
(78,878 posts)Appearing to kiss the ring is a bridge too far.
OrlandoDem2
(3,139 posts)And the American people didnt support that approach either, albeit by a small margin. We gotta be smarter and trolling him is the way to go.
I applaud Schumer here.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)We'll indulge you toddler games if we can do some real work, too.
allegorical oracle
(6,107 posts)equivocation. Possible that he's past his "sell by" date. If TSF even thinks he smells fear it heightens his aggression.
kacekwl
(8,842 posts)is always no.
Irish_Dem
(78,878 posts)It only emboldened Hitler more.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Calls the Degenerate Scumbag out and demonstrates how bankrupt and corrupt his policies are to the millions of Americans who stupidly voted for him.
We need stronger tea than this, though.
Ocelot II
(128,702 posts)in a way that any other country would have to recognize. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article298173548.html. He also knows that Trump will not work with Democrats on "an actual plan to lower costs for Americans." So he's offering to agree to do something that can't be done in exchange for something Trump won't do. In other words, he's telling Trump to eat shit without actually saying it.
Prairie Gates
(7,031 posts)The only thing anyone will hear (as evidenced in this very thread) is "We'll work with President Trump," which sounds fucking weak and knee-bended. "Oh, I was being a very clever boy, offering to agree to something I can't do in exchange for blah blah blah."
Fuckssake.
Here: "Renaming the Gulf of Mexico is a ridiculous and stupid idea, like most of the ideas from this real estate low life."
That's what he shoudl have said. Dems better learn quick. Or quicker, anyway.
harumph
(3,064 posts)I think the term is "too clever by half."
Adjective
too clever by half
(idiomatic, of a person, plan, theory, etc.) Shrewd but flawed by overthinking or excessive complexity, with a resulting tendency to be unreliable or unsuccessful.
travelingthrulife
(4,154 posts)Trump's nonsense.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)But I havent liked his actions for years.
Unladen Swallow
(491 posts)RobinA
(10,464 posts)This is awful. But then, awful seems to be all anybody's got at the moment.
ecstatic
(34,992 posts)I just don't think Schumer is effective.
BannonsLiver
(20,180 posts)Hes 74, but in the senate thats considered your prime years.
Deuxcents
(25,208 posts)Ocelot II
(128,702 posts)He knows Trump can't rename the Gulf officially, and he knows Trump will never agree to work with Democrats on anything. He's trolling. There's no quid for there to be a quo.
UTUSN
(76,562 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,878 posts)UTUSN
(76,562 posts)Don't encourage him. Don't even play to the idea that it could be done. The dems clearly don't have a common strategy, if they have a strategy at all.
Deuxcents
(25,208 posts)As the leader in the Senate.
GoCubsGo
(34,610 posts)Trump already admitted that it's hard to do that--after promising he would. He's full of shit, and Schumer is highlighting that fact here.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)that he will go along with Trumps ridiculous idea. It makes Democrats look as stupid as Trump and adds legitimacy to the idea.
travelingthrulife
(4,154 posts)So sick of Schumer.
Solomon
(12,628 posts)Cha
(316,249 posts)Quiet Em
(2,509 posts)UTUSN
(76,562 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,878 posts)UTUSN
(76,562 posts)Deuxcents
(25,208 posts)Ive had enough of the same ol same ol. These no one is above the law or we dont negotiate with terrorists dont mean a thing anymore and TSF is a terrorist who has n never will serve a minute for his crimes and misdemeanors. The old guard needs to step aside and mentor, give advice on how the system can work when the opposition has all three branches of government. We are not just facing a dangerous president elect..he has the Project 2025 people, the SC and lower courts hes stack for this very reason and that is to dismantle this country. Mamby pamby retorts arent how we need to respond.
Mark.b
(40 posts)fargone
(536 posts)What gives US the authority to unilaterally rename it? Of course we already print maps with distances labeled in miles instead of km like the rest of the world.
Unladen Swallow
(491 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)As long as the formal structure and process is maintained Americans will think things are OK. The Oligarchs call the shots and their puppets dance for the people.
msongs
(72,971 posts)Moosepoop
(2,075 posts)
https://archive.ph/XcJEp

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Wednesday that Democrats were open to President-elect Donald Trump's idea of renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America." However, he noted that he'd only do so if Trump works with Democrats on "an actual plan to lower costs for Americans."
"That is what the American people want us to focus on first, not on renaming bodies of water," Schumer said in a floor speech, adding that his party's priorities "are so much more closely aligned with the concerns of the American people than Donald Trump's seem to be." Trump floated the idea at a press conference at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday, where he also refused to rule out the use of military force to take control of Greenland or the Panama Canal.
The Democratic leader's comments essentially amount to a challenge to Trump to focus on the economic issues that helped him regain the presidency, rather than merely changing names. Over the next several years, Democrats will be making the case that their economic agenda is more beneficial for the working class than Trump's.
"Renaming the Gulf of Mexico may be a zany new idea, but it isn't going to help people save money at the grocery store. It's not going to make trips to the pharmacy more affordable," Schumer said. "If Donald Trump wants to rename a gulf to sound more patriotic, I'd say we will help him on one condition and only one condition: let's come up with a real plan first not a concept of a plan to lower prices for Americans."
live love laugh
(16,132 posts)He took advantage of Republicans sheer lunacy to message FOR the people.
I would like to see more of this.
Quiet Em
(2,509 posts)No good can come of it. Bad, ineffective and useless attempt at humor.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)A really fucking dumb move. It doesn't take advantage of the Republicans' lunacy. In fact, it does the opposite: it only legitimizes Trump's craziness.
In no world should any Democrat 'go along' with Trump on renaming the Gulf of Mexico. It just makes his whole proposition look less insane. Instead, Schumer should have said that Donald Trump is focused on trivial, bullshit issues instead of focusing on the real problems facing Americans.
This ain't hard but boy do Democrats make it hard.
unblock
(55,850 posts)dalton99a
(91,629 posts)WTF
Bobstandard
(2,146 posts)Hes a tool, but he cant be that lame, can he?
Gore1FL
(22,802 posts)Celerity
(53,403 posts)
The White HouseThe famous Rose Garden, in existence since 1913, is no more. After months of being watered with Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator at the direction of the President, the Garden is now devoid of plant life.
Stephanie Grisham, the White House Press Secretary, offered only brief remarks on the matter. Were looking into this obvious sabotage by the Do-Nothing Democrats, she said.
We tried our best and made sure that it received fresh, bottled Brawndo dailyit has electrolytes! Its got what plants crave. When that didnt work, we brought in the Brawndo trucks.
When asked why the White House didnt water it with something more conventional, such as, say, water, Ms. Grisham rolled her eyes and snorted, Waters for toilets.
orangecrush
(27,922 posts)Gore1FL
(22,802 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)malaise
(291,873 posts)That is all
betsuni
(28,612 posts)and reminding Americans which party is working on economic issues is now very very bad? Isn't anybody going to call Schumer elite because he used sarcasm? If someone else had said the same thing, it would be praised and fussed over as fighting back.
Paladin
(32,159 posts)It is way too early to be cratering to trump over one of his brain-dead wet dreams---i.e., re-naming the Gulf. Take it back, apologize to your fellow Democrats, and move on.
Blue_Adept
(6,496 posts)After 30+ years as a registered dem in a deep blue state, fuck these guys. Off to independent land.
Patton French
(1,813 posts)Hotler
(13,707 posts)Callie1979
(1,059 posts)Trump can call it whatever he wants but the rest of the world will call it the Gulf of Mexico
BannonsLiver
(20,180 posts)CrispyQ
(40,562 posts)I changed to unaffiliated when Biden said he thought he would have won. Personally, I think he would have lost by more & that was a damned sorry insult to Harris & Walz, who IMO ran a practically flawless campaign. For the record, I was one of Biden's last supporters before he stepped aside.
I'll vote dem & support dems but I'm tired of the old guard. That's not to say all the older people are fogies but I like the fight I see in the younger gen dems & old guard attitudes aren't serving us well.
on edit: Adding a link to this DU discussion.
Jennifer Rubin: Dems picked the wrong senator for Senate Judiciary leadership
https://democraticunderground.com/100219885158
I wasn't aware that Dick Durbin let John Roberts slide on answering questions about SCOTUS ethics.
G_j
(40,556 posts)If things couldnt be more depressing..
ugh
Passages
(3,986 posts)ck4829
(37,321 posts)robbob
(3,738 posts)He has a Sharpie, doesnt he? If he can redirect the route of a hurricane with the stroke of his pen he can damn sure change the name to whatever he wants! 😂