It's easy, just change Baja's name to Lower California.

I say change California's name BACK to Alta California (Upper California)

Seriously, they can call it anything they want. We won't recognize it, but still it would be funny.




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Donald COULDNT say no, and it would likely fuck the republican party for about the next hundred years, wouldn't it??

The rest of those nations are states in Mexico, however Guatemala and further south broke away from Mexico around 1824.

The green map from 1821, which is when Mexico became independent from Spain. Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Nicaragua were all part of Mexico for a few years.

New Mexico is not in the U.S.

This is some of the more recent columns, or rather separate links to each of the columns.

https://www.newmexicomagazine.org/culture/one-of-our-50-is-missing/

One days she calls asking, "I wanna know the best citrus for New Mexico?" I respond, "None. You're better off staying here".


I'm in San Antonio and we can grow citrus here. (Although we can't grow much more than mandarins reliably)

She really thought that New Mexico had a climate like Mexico! (She was Latina, but not very bright). I finally had to tell her that the Rio Grande Valley (Brownsville etc) had the closest thing to a tropical climate in Texas.

She seriously was thinking of moving to New Mexico from San Antonio to grow tropical plants!

You can't even grow citrus in El Paso, much less New Mexico.

This Coloradan has no objection.

And if trump is stupid enough to actually move on the Gulf of America bullshit, then full speed ahead on America Mexicana. Some of us Texans would welcome the chance to be part of Mexico, for the next 4 years...

President Vincente Fox. He had a sense of humor about Trump.

to welcome Washington, Oregon, California to their nation, and then cut across and take Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado.....

This Californian can't wait to be Canadian!



Would die laughing if they got Arizona as well. All of my MAGA relatives who moved to Arizona because 'no taxes,' would have heart failure.

that many other compassionate nations are relaxing their requirements for U.S. Citizens to become ex-pats by moving to their countries.........

The Labour Party will elect a new leader to replace Trudeau, but in the next election between the parties, the Conservatives are expected to win.

Feels like America has some sort of a disease, and a lot of other countries are catching it.

Austria, Czechoslovakia, parts of Poland that had ethnic Germans, Spain, parts of France, several Americans, some Hungarians, and some Brits. And he had Italy and Japan as allies.

I wouldn't call it "a few."

population of the US.

But, yes, if you name the known ones, including some famous leaders, it is quite a lot. Besides Madison Square Gardens, there were the members of Congress who were actual Nazi agents, which Rachel Maddow covered in a documentary. Then there were the famous people like Father Coughlin and followers of his radio show, Henry Ford and readers of his self-published paper, and Charles Lindbergh.

And Father Coughlin was a predecessor of Rush Limbaugh.

discipline Coughlin for his hate-filled diatribes. As a citizen, he had first amendment rights, but as a priest, he was answerable to the church organization. As far as I know, the RC Church did not hold him accountable for his hate mongering.

A Jewish friend of mine told me some years ago that her family would never own or ride in a Ford because of Henry's vicious anti Semitism.

So that's why he was not disciplined.

there was mixed behavior in various organizations, from governments to churches.

There were individual Catholic clergy in Europe who helped people hide or escape. There were Protestant churches that sided with Nazis and others that opposed them, with some of those opposing clergy being arrested and sent to the camps to die.

Our own government had Nazi agents in it.

It was a time when you needed to be careful about whom you could trust.

But Coughlin was so blatant and vicious in his hate mongering that the Church should at least have been embarrassed enough to call him out on it and if he refused to stop, then publicly dissociate from him.

so it's not likely you'll get to meet Pope Piu XII, but if you do, you can take i up with him.

Yes, there were good priests and also nuns and laypeople. There always are. There are always bigots too, sadly. And remember, this is a church do protective of its priest that for decade it covered up child sexual abuse.

and other mass media including television and now the internet came to be, which made it much more difficult to cover up. But they managed. Prior to all of those things, it used to actually be possible to keep dark secrets.

Hitler was Austrian. And it was his military, supported by that of Mussolini, that helped the Fascists and Franco to victory in the brutal Spanish Civil War.

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in order to run as a candidate in German elections. I wouldn't credit Hitler's birth in Austria as the reason for fascism in Austria or its unification with Germany.

As you probably know, the unification of various Germanic states was a theme throughout the 19th century, continuing into the early 20th century, with Austria and Prussia as the dominant, separate, and opposing Germanic powers. With the breakup of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, it seemed more possible, but there were still obstacles, including Austrian nationalism and religious differences.

Fascism in Austria was an internal development before its unification with Nazi Germany.

Spain's fascist movement took decades to develop as a result of extreme polarization between left and right, monarchists and republicans (small r), church and secularists, rural and urban areas. There had been coups prior to the civil war, and leanings toward authoritarianism. The international geopolitics of the time led to fascist Germany and Italy supporting Franco and the Soviet Union supporting the opposition. Other nations stayed out of it officially, but many of their citizens volunteered to fight on the side of the republicans against fascism.

So, yes, Franco was supported by fascist nations, but the internal fight between left and right in Spain went back to the 19th century, before Germany and Italy became fascist.

He moved to Passau Germany when he was three.

All over the world people are rejecting incumbent parties. Governments tried to recover from COVID with economic stimulus which fueled inflation. Corporations are taking advantage of monopolization in many sectors of tje economy. Add in global warming and population pressure driving immigration and you’ve got a pissed off population that wants change. Incumbents were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

All over the world people are rejecting incumbent parties. Governments tried to recover from COVID with economic stimulus which fueled inflation. Corporations are taking advantage of monopolization in many sectors of tje economy. Add in global warming and population pressure driving immigration and you’ve got a pissed off population that wants change. Incumbents were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Of Canadian parliament member Elizabeth May basically reading the riot act to Trump, and just as you said, inviting CA, WA, Or and some of the NE states to be part of Canada. She was great. It was on joyannreid instagram page.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEjeyM6xZBH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Arizona has an unusually large Canadian population in the winter!
Can't imagine why.

is a "nasty woman" to d-less.

WELL DONE!

At last count (https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html)



Now, let’s see those White Christian “Nationalists” outvote the combined population of the

United States of North America!

Put some maple syrup on my churros!

As I light up a nice Cuban cigar. WAIT I forgot about Jamaica!


US gets two senate seats.

you crazy diamond!

The US has 1680 miles, Mexico has 1743 miles.

Mexico wins!

I'm not sure how much Mexico has, but I think the US has more.








https://coast.noaa.gov/data/docs/states/shorelines.pdf

They include offshore islands, sounds, bays, rivers, and creeks to the head of tidewater or to a point where tidal waters narrow to a width of 100 feet. Most people would recognize the coastline as the outer edge of the states along the bodies of water (Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean, Gulf of Mexico). The driving distance from Key West to Pensacola is only 932 miles, so it doesn't make a lot of sense when doing the comparison to consider Florida's Gulf Coast as over 5000 miles.

https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=3Y8oYzzAfIVWLEwmYM7aqGelP8DPojYfVQTh7IZD_AStplvKt3DCk_ab6e2Fe1rgN79jUSpNpJM8kwViobxyp2GFAjFow-auu5PcLD8E8G1I4h-mxr0kJavV2vu_eU9xesFl5AIljLEcrYYZlNewgmtwsyVgoZgpaFw-l7Cr7b5cPmk-wLH3,eO0lY1zIhY40EgkGN_lXsyCAQGtFTsfc38xPx3gbPTlFLUsPB1VJ7y7RrNdtI3eqFET8nhniWLCqNZJITI7yWpJtNlP66NPChO42xYypdm-lGuWpw6JBam6ZUj7jahLFDrmerIX-YAEGzcRU0nKKSRrUwPjssxwIfkmhJuE-75iettuI5p1mecTApTGLtR4tBDUQcDnuzOIkk1fAK2fkSWdo3UB7i6BDKi22H3uK1_vRvGS-qCkOLJMGSQKNq4Tjz4zBdlNKQhc18PP9FO5OdB2tJe_NMJgh_gvjZOKEK3Lk-Kwe1gemb6VYLLTjmiIXvVCAGE8j-qTbj91UOMkQRIYhPAQyOXXbYwQCdbH8ZzJDoI86T94cxpQWO4xcImplUOm71AiZNMV8ZlwVnqjzx7iPCTUFzg

Using the logical definition, the US portion of the coastline spans 2,700 km (1,700 miles). The Mexican coastline spans 2,805 km (1,743 miles). Mexico's portion is indeed longer.

So using driving distances:

Mexico: 1,392
US: 832 + 878 = 1,710

Mexico's distance is from Matamoros to the Caribbean. (Cancun) US is driving distance from Brownsville to Key West.

(And note NOAA defines it as "shoreline" not "coastline" - an important difference). For a purpose like this, the NOAA numbers are meaningless. More of Mexico's coastline borders on the Gulf of Mexico than the US coastline. That is an indisputable fact.

There is a second methodology of measurement done by the CRS which is much more logical. Florida's total coastline is just 1350 miles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_coastline

I mentioned the driving distance from Key West to Pensacola because it show the actual coastline has to be shorter than that distance.

The numbers I provided are a fact. Why you refuse to acknowledge them as such is a mystery to me. They are 100% True. Mexico's coastline is 1743 miles and the US only 1700. From wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico

Geography
The Gulf of Mexico's eastern, northern, and northwestern shores lie along the US states of Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. The US portion of the coastline spans 2,700 km (1,700 miles), receiving water from 33 major rivers that drain 31 states and 2 Canadian provinces.[25] The southwestern and southern shores lie along the Mexican states of Tamaulipas, Veracruz, Tabasco, Campeche, Yucatán, and the northernmost tip of Quintana Roo. The Mexican coastline spans 2,805 km (1,743 miles). On its southeast quadrant, the gulf is bordered by Cuba. It supports major American, Mexican, and Cuban fishing industries. The outer margins of the wide continental shelves of Yucatán and Florida receive cooler, nutrient-enriched waters from the deep by a process known as upwelling, which stimulates plankton growth in the euphotic zone. This attracts fish, shrimp, and squid.[26] River drainage and atmospheric fallout from industrial coastal cities also provide nutrients to the coastal zone.

A piece of advice - quit trying to argue this. you are wrong.

It is virtually impossible to measure the coastline. A bit of tongue in cheek on my part.

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But only 27 hr (1,823.4 mi) from San Antonio to New York

However, the gulf highway in Mexico is flat and mostly divided into four lanes (like our early 1960 interstates were) There are a few two lane areas, however they have extended shoulders. I have no desire to go to Cancun. I don't like salt water, sand and heat.

I surprised that if I want to drive to Mexico City, google says to take the gulf hwy instead of the route through Monterrey and the mountains. (SA to Monterrey is the NAFTA Pan-American freeway, but the nice part seems to end at Monterrey. Their mountain roads are kinda scary and not like here,)



Spotted in Mexico about 100 miles from the border. They're also obsessed with the name too.LOL
Yikes, the gas is expensive! 21.99 pesos/lit = $4.24/gallon

I helped build a long trail. A ranger would bushwhack a path with blue tape markers. We would then use hand tools to blaze out the trail. Then some surveyors would follow our path with a 52.8 foot chain, 100 feet at a time, up and down and all the bends, to come up with the total length of the trail. If you looked at a map it would seem that say a trail was 3 miles long, in reality it was 4.1 miles.

Not that he'd get it, of course.

Vietnamese calls the USA “starry flag.” Whatever we might call the body of water in question has no impact outside of Trump’s mind.