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Fetterman: Buying Greenland is a 'responsible conversation' (Original Post) HereForTheParty Jan 2025 OP
When is he gonna switch? onecaliberal Jan 2025 #1
From 2 Democratic Senators to 2 Rethuglican Senators FreeForm73 Jan 2025 #6
He already has. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #11
He obviously ran (D) to get elected. Sinema/Manchin III Lemons UK Jan 2025 #38
JFC, Fetterman, is this what the people of Greenland would want? Stargleamer Jan 2025 #2
I'm sorry I thought repubs had 53 senate seats Tickle Jan 2025 #3
They have 52, not 53 Polybius Jan 2025 #8
Thank you, not sure why I thought that? NT Tickle Jan 2025 #15
Funny story, I thought the same thing for some reason Polybius Jan 2025 #16
Once Senator-elect Justice of WV is sworn in, the Republican Party will have 53 seats. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #56
Republicans had 49 seats Polybius Jan 2025 #65
You are missing one. totodeinhere Jan 2025 #73
I'll check that link in detail later, at work now Polybius Jan 2025 #75
It's in the link. But I can't say who it is right now. totodeinhere Jan 2025 #77
Ohio DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2025 #85
Stroke talking? haele Jan 2025 #17
Bingo mr715 Jan 2025 #29
It appears that Big John fell asleep, gab13by13 Jan 2025 #4
Why do we always end up with these dirtballs (Fetterman, Sinema, Lieberman, etc.) going to the dark side... kysrsoze Jan 2025 #5
Jim Jeffords switched to Independent in 2001 Polybius Jan 2025 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Jan 2025 #51
Bingo. Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #52
OMG what is happening to him? AllyCat Jan 2025 #7
Wow, going full Manchin Bettie Jan 2025 #9
NEWSFLASH!!! ScratchCat Jan 2025 #12
Exactly wth is anyone even discussing this? It is a joke imo Meowmee Jan 2025 #67
This....! Cherrycheeks Jan 2025 #13
Check yourself back into therapy, john. There is clearly something wrong inside niyad Jan 2025 #14
Fetterman spent six weeks in Walter Reed Hospital receiving treatment for a major depressive disorder. sop Jan 2025 #86
John Lieberman Manchin Sinema Fetterman says what now? Sky Jewels Jan 2025 #18
lol BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2025 #62
I guess I need to look up the word responsible because I'm obviously mistaken about the definition. Solly Mack Jan 2025 #19
So Fetterman was for sale (even if Greenland wasn't) and Trump has bought him struggle4progress Jan 2025 #20
Is there any indication that Greenland wants to be bought by us? Elessar Zappa Jan 2025 #21
When you see him wear a suit again, his transformation will be complete. Drum Jan 2025 #22
Whatever Johonny Jan 2025 #23
Fetterman, do you want to go to war with Denmark? sakabatou Jan 2025 #24
Hey Fetterman quit telling us to stop freaking out MagickMuffin Jan 2025 #25
Sure- xmas74 Jan 2025 #26
Fetterman will be declaring himself part of the Maga caucus any day now. Voltaire2 Jan 2025 #27
There is something in the water. surfered Jan 2025 #28
And while we're at it ... Bmoboy Jan 2025 #30
when Trump says 'buy' Greenland, he's just trying to intimidate them bigtree Jan 2025 #31
Why not discuss buying other properties as well ExciteBike66 Jan 2025 #32
I have lost all respect for him. Basso8vb Jan 2025 #33
I figured something like this would happen. I hate to be the one to say I told you so... but * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #34
Conor Lamb is looking better and better. But he was attacked for Nixie Jan 2025 #39
He's become a joke. sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #35
Of course. It's not like there aren't other issues of more importance to the American people Raven123 Jan 2025 #36
Yup! Botany Jan 2025 #84
what a disappointment Fetterman has become mike_c Jan 2025 #37
I think Fetterman should Stop trying to Cha Jan 2025 #40
What is he Joe Manchin's replacement? doc03 Jan 2025 #41
I take your point, but Manchin was the BEST we could hope for to come out of WV * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #43
Why assume that? Cirsium Jan 2025 #55
I live in the real world, thank you very much. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #58
OK Cirsium Jan 2025 #59
It's not 1968 any more. Times change. 🌅☕️ Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #61
Sure, that is the path we have been on Cirsium Jan 2025 #66
I choose reality over fantasy. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #70
NEXT: "Trump's Panama invasion was a prudent measure" dalton99a Jan 2025 #42
Unless Greenland can start producing a lot of eggs, then who cares. It's all about the madinmaryland Jan 2025 #44
Wasn't Denmark a founding member of NATO? elocs Jan 2025 #45
Good grief! nt City Lights Jan 2025 #46
I recognized him from the beginning. Autumn Jan 2025 #47
Same here! Loudmouth showboat with a sweat clothes schtick! Argued with my daughter about this guy. justhanginon Jan 2025 #79
No it is not! It is some bullshit! Initech Jan 2025 #48
Fetterman is not a well man. Paladin Jan 2025 #49
Hey John, maybe PA could be sold to New Jersey. Then PA could have more exits. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 2025 #50
Wait. What? Who the hell is this guy? Is he Kirsten Sinema minus the fashion sense? Hekate Jan 2025 #53
Fetty needs a 'Fuck Off' ring to start his journey to male Sinema fashion plate. Celerity Jan 2025 #68
John... John... are you there John? Blue Owl Jan 2025 #54
And he volunteers to go up there in his shorts to check out the situation. jalan48 Jan 2025 #57
Sure. Having that conversation makes sense Mz Pip Jan 2025 #60
Dems, we need to primary better candidates BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2025 #63
Filed under: B.See Jan 2025 #64
I refuse to call him "Sen.Fecklessman", so I oasis Jan 2025 #69
Is it severe brain damage or bribery / blackmail? ecstatic Jan 2025 #71
My mom and father-in-law both had strokes, and both were never mentally the same... Mark.b2 Jan 2025 #80
Please note that he said "buying," not "invading" Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #72
Acquiring Greenland via purchase would be a fantastic win for the U.S. Bonx Jan 2025 #74
But what do Greenlanders want? Haggard Celine Jan 2025 #87
Here John, have another swig! no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #76
I wonder when he's gong to change his party to the repukes? kimbutgar Jan 2025 #78
Glad I didn't send him any money. Something made me say WHAT! about a earlier post. usaf-vet Jan 2025 #81
He was in his hometown of York, PA last weekend and posted pics badhair77 Jan 2025 #82
Arghhhhhh Lulu KC Jan 2025 #83
I have a question for Fetterman. Cha Jan 2025 #88
More evidence of Fetterman's defective brain malfunctioning ... Tarzanrock Jan 2025 #89
A Responsible Conversation? ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #90
It may be time to look into The Third Doctor Jan 2025 #91
"It's not a "responsible conversation" when the people who own the land emphatically say it's not for sale Seasider Jan 2025 #92
No it is not! Fuck Trump and his stupid expansionist bullshit! Initech Jan 2025 #93

FreeForm73

(150 posts)
6. From 2 Democratic Senators to 2 Rethuglican Senators
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jan 2025

just like that.
Shapiro now willing to listen, there must be more money out there than even in sports!!!

Stargleamer

(2,580 posts)
2. JFC, Fetterman, is this what the people of Greenland would want?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jan 2025

I see no indication that they would want that.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
3. I'm sorry I thought repubs had 53 senate seats
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jan 2025

I didn't realize they had 54 seats.

What is up with this guy? They tortured Fetterman when he got elected.

Polybius

(21,324 posts)
16. Funny story, I thought the same thing for some reason
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Last night I was like "I know they had 49 seats and I think they picked up 3 seats, but for some reason I the number 53 keeps sticking out." I had to look it up myself.

totodeinhere

(13,686 posts)
56. Once Senator-elect Justice of WV is sworn in, the Republican Party will have 53 seats. n/t
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jan 2025

Polybius

(21,324 posts)
65. Republicans had 49 seats
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jan 2025

In November, they picked up WV, PA, and Montana. That's 52, unless in missing one maybe?

Polybius

(21,324 posts)
75. I'll check that link in detail later, at work now
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:54 PM
Jan 2025

But can you tell me which one I missed?

totodeinhere

(13,686 posts)
77. It's in the link. But I can't say who it is right now.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:03 PM
Jan 2025

I was just lying down for a nap. Will look it up later.

haele

(14,984 posts)
17. Stroke talking?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Does affect the personality, especially if he was somewhat a borderline centrist to begin with.

I don't know Pennsylvania politics, but I do have experience with Privileged Majority Grievance Derangement Syndrome.
It can affect even liberal and progressive folks who benefit from being a majority gender or race without acknowledging the privileges inherent in being "the social norm" in the organizational hierarchies they operate in.

It takes a lot of unpleasant self-awareness to realize when the self-centered "don't you dare ignore my needs or take my stuff" feeling hits one during the consideration of sharing opportunities and benefits with different or minority population.

Haele

kysrsoze

(6,399 posts)
5. Why do we always end up with these dirtballs (Fetterman, Sinema, Lieberman, etc.) going to the dark side...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jan 2025

and no one on the Republican side ever finds a conscience and goes independent, much less Dem? It's really disheartening to see you can't trust people to stay on the side of truth, normalcy, dignity, public service, etc.

Polybius

(21,324 posts)
10. Jim Jeffords switched to Independent in 2001
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 2025

He then caucused with Democrats, costing Republicans the Senate. Lincoln Chafee switched too.

Response to kysrsoze (Reply #5)

sop

(17,185 posts)
86. Fetterman spent six weeks in Walter Reed Hospital receiving treatment for a major depressive disorder.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jan 2025

That's quite a long hospital stay for treatment of clinical depression. Reportedly, he's currently on medication. Obviously, something's still not right with Fetterman.

Good thing for Fetterman U.S. Senators receive excellent mental health care. That's probably why he wants to hang on to his job.

Solly Mack

(96,256 posts)
19. I guess I need to look up the word responsible because I'm obviously mistaken about the definition.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jan 2025

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
21. Is there any indication that Greenland wants to be bought by us?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:46 PM
Jan 2025

Or that Denmark would sell? This whole conversation is stupid.

Drum

(10,533 posts)
22. When you see him wear a suit again, his transformation will be complete.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jan 2025

Any day now, I expect.

MagickMuffin

(18,049 posts)
25. Hey Fetterman quit telling us to stop freaking out
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 2025


You do not control other people’s emotions. Focus on yourself and seek help. Your heart and mind has ceased to function properly.


Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
27. Fetterman will be declaring himself part of the Maga caucus any day now.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jan 2025

This is vile on his part. I do not at all think he believes this, so this is performative signaling to the fascist Republican Party.

surfered

(10,860 posts)
28. There is something in the water.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jan 2025

Both Denmark and its semiautonomous territory Greenland say it’s not for sale. I suppose I could go around saying I want to buy Florida and my wife could say that it was a responsible conversation, but it would still sound crazy to most folks and a giant waste of breath.

Bmoboy

(603 posts)
30. And while we're at it ...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jan 2025

Maryland wants the southern 3 - 4 miles of Pennsylvania back.
Damn Mason and Dixon were bribed by the quakers to shift the line south.
Does that mean Fetterman is not the legal Senator for Pennsylvania?
Just asking.
Just having a reasonable conversation.

bigtree

(93,297 posts)
31. when Trump says 'buy' Greenland, he's just trying to intimidate them
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jan 2025

...why join in on that imperialist cosplay bullying?

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
34. I figured something like this would happen. I hate to be the one to say I told you so... but *
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jan 2025

* actually, never mind... I do like being the one (or one of the many) who expressed our doubts.

I'm feeling more disheartened than "disappointed". It's hard to be disappointed over something that I was kind of expecting in the first place. --- Oh well. It's not like we had control of the Senate anyway.

Raven123

(7,406 posts)
36. Of course. It's not like there aren't other issues of more importance to the American people
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:08 PM
Jan 2025

No. It is not a responsible discussion. It is a distraction.

Botany

(76,144 posts)
84. Yup!
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jan 2025

A 100% planned distraction to take our eyes off the coming shit storm of
fascism, cryptocurrency scams, theft of everything by Trump, and that the
election was dirty as shit brought to us by Musk, the GRU, and the biggest
criminal in American history is now going back into the White House.

I smell Bannon & Roger Stone all over these false flags.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
43. I take your point, but Manchin was the BEST we could hope for to come out of WV *
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jan 2025

* and, actually, I was "happy" with Manchin because I knew that WV couldn't do any better than that. (At least he caucused with the Dems and helped us to keep the majority control).

But when it comes to PA, we can definitely do better. I'm sympathetic to his health and mental issues, but I feel like Lamb would have been a better choice and a stronger voice and someone who could better represent the interests of their constituents... and someone who would help to strengthen and unify Democrats rather than what we're seeing now.

Unless he resigns, we've got a bit of a wait before the next election. And, honestly, I don't see him running again... or being able to win a primary challenge.

Cirsium

(3,269 posts)
55. Why assume that?
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jan 2025

I don't know why people write off states. There is no reason why a progressive could it win in West Virginia.

Jesse Jackson came to Appalachia in 1988 — and he kept coming back.


In 1960, Robert F. Kennedy was deeply involved in his brother John F. Kennedy’s campaign for the presidency, often traveling to various parts of the country to rally support. Bluefield, West Virginia, was a key stop during this campaign, as West Virginia’s primary was seen as a critical test of John F. Kennedy’s viability as a Catholic candidate in a predominantly Protestant state.
When Robert F. Kennedy stopped for lunch in Bluefield, he was likely engaging directly with the local community, showcasing the Kennedy campaign’s commitment to grassroots outreach. These kinds of stops were characteristic of the Kennedy strategy, which relied on personal connections, compelling speeches, and an energetic presence to win over voters.
The West Virginia primary ended up being pivotal, as John F. Kennedy’s victory there dispelled doubts about his ability to win in non-Catholic states and helped solidify his path to the Democratic nomination. Robert’s efforts in connecting with local communities like Bluefield played an important role in that success.

https://vintagenewsdaily.com/robert-f-kennedy-stopping-for-lunch-in-bluefield-west-virginia-while-campaigning-for-his-brother-1960/


?si=GYNSolBUYr2mxkwQ

Cirsium

(3,269 posts)
59. OK
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jan 2025

After all, the way things are is the way they will always be?

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not?"

Robert F. Kennedy

As quoted by his brother Ted in the eulogy he delivered at RFK's funeral, June 8th, 1968.

Cirsium

(3,269 posts)
66. Sure, that is the path we have been on
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 01:45 AM
Jan 2025

What else from the past should we jettison so that we can be "realistic" and "pratical?"

How has being "realistic" and "pratical" worked out?

It stopped being 1968 long, long ago, back when people decided to be "realistic" and "pratical." We have lost ground ever since.

I for one refuse to live in that "real world" you are talking about.

madinmaryland

(65,645 posts)
44. Unless Greenland can start producing a lot of eggs, then who cares. It's all about the
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:50 PM
Jan 2025

Price of eggs and inflation!

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
45. Wasn't Denmark a founding member of NATO?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jan 2025

Wouldn't other members be obligated to defend it if they were attacked, even by another member?

justhanginon

(3,377 posts)
79. Same here! Loudmouth showboat with a sweat clothes schtick! Argued with my daughter about this guy.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jan 2025

Performance artist!

Celerity

(53,410 posts)
68. Fetty needs a 'Fuck Off' ring to start his journey to male Sinema fashion plate.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 02:02 AM
Jan 2025


Then he can move on to a 'Dangerous Creature' hoodie....





Mz Pip

(28,329 posts)
60. Sure. Having that conversation makes sense
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 06:31 PM
Jan 2025

Only if Greenland was for sale. Denmark shows no interest in having that conversation.

So really, its’s just another stupid idea from Trump.

Mark.b2

(717 posts)
80. My mom and father-in-law both had strokes, and both were never mentally the same...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jan 2025

My MIL went from being the sweetest, kindest grandmother to almost mean to her grandkids. Not physically, just in the things she would say to them. We had to stop letting her babysit for us.

My FIL went from being gregarious to quite introverted. He killed himself about five years after the stroke.

Both did not become better people after their strokes. Fetterman, thus far, has done the same.

Sad.

 

Bonx

(2,353 posts)
74. Acquiring Greenland via purchase would be a fantastic win for the U.S.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jan 2025

Sorry everyone, but it's true.

Haggard Celine

(17,637 posts)
87. But what do Greenlanders want?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jan 2025

That's the important thing. Of course, if Greenlanders want to be owned by the United States, that's their prerogative. I don't think they do though. If I were a Greenlander I would choose to stay with Denmark. Look how the U.S. treats Puerto Rico.

badhair77

(5,072 posts)
82. He was in his hometown of York, PA last weekend and posted pics
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jan 2025

of having breakfast and lunch at 2 restaurants that were pioneers in ignoring Covid rules. Local Dems are still angry. Patronizing these places and then rubbing it in, for whom?

Cha

(316,249 posts)
88. I have a question for Fetterman.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jan 2025

he Scolds Dems.. does he Ever Scold Treasonous magats?😡

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
89. More evidence of Fetterman's defective brain malfunctioning ...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jan 2025

release the MRI scans of your brain, Senator, so the rest of us Democrats can understand your physiological pathology.

ProfessorGAC

(75,595 posts)
90. A Responsible Conversation?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jan 2025

It's responsible to discuss purchasing something the current foreign state says isn't for sale?
It appears to be a silly idea & waste of time, which is the opposite of responsible government.
A responsible conversation would be about lowering the prices on food staples, not nonsense about buying Greenland.

Seasider

(208 posts)
92. "It's not a "responsible conversation" when the people who own the land emphatically say it's not for sale
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jan 2025

and exactly where exactly are we gonna get the money to buy a territory that large and rich in resources? We're over 30 trillion in debt right now. Is Trump gonna tax the rich at a significantly higher rate? Of course he won't. This whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

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