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Fetterman: Buying Greenland is a 'responsible conversation' (Original Post) HereForTheParty Jan 8 OP
When is he gonna switch? onecaliberal Jan 8 #1
From 2 Democratic Senators to 2 Rethuglican Senators FreeForm73 Jan 8 #6
He already has. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #11
He obviously ran (D) to get elected. Sinema/Manchin III Lemons UK Jan 8 #38
JFC, Fetterman, is this what the people of Greenland would want? Stargleamer Jan 8 #2
I'm sorry I thought repubs had 53 senate seats Tickle Jan 8 #3
They have 52, not 53 Polybius Jan 8 #8
Thank you, not sure why I thought that? NT Tickle Jan 8 #15
Funny story, I thought the same thing for some reason Polybius Jan 8 #16
Once Senator-elect Justice of WV is sworn in, the Republican Party will have 53 seats. n/t totodeinhere Jan 9 #56
Republicans had 49 seats Polybius Jan 9 #65
You are missing one. totodeinhere Jan 11 #73
I'll check that link in detail later, at work now Polybius Jan 11 #75
It's in the link. But I can't say who it is right now. totodeinhere Jan 11 #77
Ohio DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 11 #85
Stroke talking? haele Jan 8 #17
Bingo mr715 Jan 8 #29
It appears that Big John fell asleep, gab13by13 Jan 8 #4
Why do we always end up with these dirtballs (Fetterman, Sinema, Lieberman, etc.) going to the dark side... kysrsoze Jan 8 #5
Jim Jeffords switched to Independent in 2001 Polybius Jan 8 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Jan 8 #51
Bingo. Unladen Swallow Jan 8 #52
OMG what is happening to him? AllyCat Jan 8 #7
Wow, going full Manchin Bettie Jan 8 #9
NEWSFLASH!!! ScratchCat Jan 8 #12
Exactly wth is anyone even discussing this? It is a joke imo Meowmee Jan 10 #67
This....! Cherrycheeks Jan 8 #13
Check yourself back into therapy, john. There is clearly something wrong inside niyad Jan 8 #14
Fetterman spent six weeks in Walter Reed Hospital receiving treatment for a major depressive disorder. sop Jan 11 #86
John Lieberman Manchin Sinema Fetterman says what now? Sky Jewels Jan 8 #18
lol BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 9 #62
I guess I need to look up the word responsible because I'm obviously mistaken about the definition. Solly Mack Jan 8 #19
So Fetterman was for sale (even if Greenland wasn't) and Trump has bought him struggle4progress Jan 8 #20
Is there any indication that Greenland wants to be bought by us? Elessar Zappa Jan 8 #21
When you see him wear a suit again, his transformation will be complete. Drum Jan 8 #22
Whatever Johonny Jan 8 #23
Fetterman, do you want to go to war with Denmark? sakabatou Jan 8 #24
Hey Fetterman quit telling us to stop freaking out MagickMuffin Jan 8 #25
Sure- xmas74 Jan 8 #26
Fetterman will be declaring himself part of the Maga caucus any day now. Voltaire2 Jan 8 #27
There is something in the water. surfered Jan 8 #28
And while we're at it ... Bmoboy Jan 8 #30
when Trump says 'buy' Greenland, he's just trying to intimidate them bigtree Jan 8 #31
Why not discuss buying other properties as well ExciteBike66 Jan 8 #32
I have lost all respect for him. Basso8vb Jan 8 #33
I figured something like this would happen. I hate to be the one to say I told you so... but * Oopsie Daisy Jan 8 #34
Conor Lamb is looking better and better. But he was attacked for Nixie Jan 8 #39
He's become a joke. sinkingfeeling Jan 8 #35
Of course. It's not like there aren't other issues of more importance to the American people Raven123 Jan 8 #36
Yup! Botany Jan 11 #84
what a disappointment Fetterman has become mike_c Jan 8 #37
I think Fetterman should Stop trying to Cha Jan 8 #40
What is he Joe Manchin's replacement? doc03 Jan 8 #41
I take your point, but Manchin was the BEST we could hope for to come out of WV * Oopsie Daisy Jan 8 #43
Why assume that? Cirsium Jan 9 #55
I live in the real world, thank you very much. Oopsie Daisy Jan 9 #58
OK Cirsium Jan 9 #59
It's not 1968 any more. Times change. 🌅☕️ Oopsie Daisy Jan 9 #61
Sure, that is the path we have been on Cirsium Jan 10 #66
I choose reality over fantasy. Oopsie Daisy Jan 10 #70
NEXT: "Trump's Panama invasion was a prudent measure" dalton99a Jan 8 #42
Unless Greenland can start producing a lot of eggs, then who cares. It's all about the madinmaryland Jan 8 #44
Wasn't Denmark a founding member of NATO? elocs Jan 8 #45
Good grief! nt City Lights Jan 8 #46
I recognized him from the beginning. Autumn Jan 8 #47
Same here! Loudmouth showboat with a sweat clothes schtick! Argued with my daughter about this guy. justhanginon Jan 11 #79
No it is not! It is some bullshit! Initech Jan 8 #48
Fetterman is not a well man. Paladin Jan 8 #49
Hey John, maybe PA could be sold to New Jersey. Then PA could have more exits. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 8 #50
Wait. What? Who the hell is this guy? Is he Kirsten Sinema minus the fashion sense? Hekate Jan 8 #53
Fetty needs a 'Fuck Off' ring to start his journey to male Sinema fashion plate. Celerity Jan 10 #68
John... John... are you there John? Blue Owl Jan 8 #54
And he volunteers to go up there in his shorts to check out the situation. jalan48 Jan 9 #57
Sure. Having that conversation makes sense Mz Pip Jan 9 #60
Dems, we need to primary better candidates BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 9 #63
Filed under: B.See Jan 9 #64
I refuse to call him "Sen.Fecklessman", so I oasis Jan 10 #69
Is it severe brain damage or bribery / blackmail? ecstatic Jan 10 #71
My mom and father-in-law both had strokes, and both were never mentally the same... Mark.b2 Jan 11 #80
Please note that he said "buying," not "invading" Jose Garcia Jan 10 #72
Acquiring Greenland via purchase would be a fantastic win for the U.S. Bonx Jan 11 #74
But what do Greenlanders want? Haggard Celine Jan 11 #87
Here John, have another swig! no_hypocrisy Jan 11 #76
I wonder when he's gong to change his party to the repukes? kimbutgar Jan 11 #78
Glad I didn't send him any money. Something made me say WHAT! about a earlier post. usaf-vet Jan 11 #81
He was in his hometown of York, PA last weekend and posted pics badhair77 Jan 11 #82
Arghhhhhh Lulu KC Jan 11 #83
I have a question for Fetterman. Cha Jan 11 #88
More evidence of Fetterman's defective brain malfunctioning ... Tarzanrock Jan 11 #89
A Responsible Conversation? ProfessorGAC Jan 11 #90
It may be time to look into The Third Doctor Jan 11 #91
"It's not a "responsible conversation" when the people who own the land emphatically say it's not for sale Seasider Jan 11 #92
No it is not! Fuck Trump and his stupid expansionist bullshit! Initech Jan 11 #93

FreeForm73

(145 posts)
6. From 2 Democratic Senators to 2 Rethuglican Senators
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jan 8

just like that.
Shapiro now willing to listen, there must be more money out there than even in sports!!!

Stargleamer

(2,372 posts)
2. JFC, Fetterman, is this what the people of Greenland would want?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:05 PM
Jan 8

I see no indication that they would want that.

Tickle

(3,771 posts)
3. I'm sorry I thought repubs had 53 senate seats
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:05 PM
Jan 8

I didn't realize they had 54 seats.

What is up with this guy? They tortured Fetterman when he got elected.

Polybius

(19,621 posts)
16. Funny story, I thought the same thing for some reason
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 8

Last night I was like "I know they had 49 seats and I think they picked up 3 seats, but for some reason I the number 53 keeps sticking out." I had to look it up myself.

Polybius

(19,621 posts)
65. Republicans had 49 seats
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:20 PM
Jan 9

In November, they picked up WV, PA, and Montana. That's 52, unless in missing one maybe?

totodeinhere

(13,587 posts)
77. It's in the link. But I can't say who it is right now.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jan 11

I was just lying down for a nap. Will look it up later.

haele

(14,078 posts)
17. Stroke talking?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 8

Does affect the personality, especially if he was somewhat a borderline centrist to begin with.

I don't know Pennsylvania politics, but I do have experience with Privileged Majority Grievance Derangement Syndrome.
It can affect even liberal and progressive folks who benefit from being a majority gender or race without acknowledging the privileges inherent in being "the social norm" in the organizational hierarchies they operate in.

It takes a lot of unpleasant self-awareness to realize when the self-centered "don't you dare ignore my needs or take my stuff" feeling hits one during the consideration of sharing opportunities and benefits with different or minority population.

Haele

kysrsoze

(6,284 posts)
5. Why do we always end up with these dirtballs (Fetterman, Sinema, Lieberman, etc.) going to the dark side...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jan 8

and no one on the Republican side ever finds a conscience and goes independent, much less Dem? It's really disheartening to see you can't trust people to stay on the side of truth, normalcy, dignity, public service, etc.

Polybius

(19,621 posts)
10. Jim Jeffords switched to Independent in 2001
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 8

He then caucused with Democrats, costing Republicans the Senate. Lincoln Chafee switched too.

Response to kysrsoze (Reply #5)

sop

(13,393 posts)
86. Fetterman spent six weeks in Walter Reed Hospital receiving treatment for a major depressive disorder.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:32 PM
Jan 11

That's quite a long hospital stay for treatment of clinical depression. Reportedly, he's currently on medication. Obviously, something's still not right with Fetterman.

Good thing for Fetterman U.S. Senators receive excellent mental health care. That's probably why he wants to hang on to his job.

Solly Mack

(94,603 posts)
19. I guess I need to look up the word responsible because I'm obviously mistaken about the definition.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jan 8

Elessar Zappa

(16,318 posts)
21. Is there any indication that Greenland wants to be bought by us?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jan 8

Or that Denmark would sell? This whole conversation is stupid.

Drum

(10,176 posts)
22. When you see him wear a suit again, his transformation will be complete.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jan 8

Any day now, I expect.

MagickMuffin

(17,523 posts)
25. Hey Fetterman quit telling us to stop freaking out
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 8


You do not control other people’s emotions. Focus on yourself and seek help. Your heart and mind has ceased to function properly.


Voltaire2

(15,361 posts)
27. Fetterman will be declaring himself part of the Maga caucus any day now.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jan 8

This is vile on his part. I do not at all think he believes this, so this is performative signaling to the fascist Republican Party.

surfered

(5,856 posts)
28. There is something in the water.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:41 PM
Jan 8

Both Denmark and its semiautonomous territory Greenland say it’s not for sale. I suppose I could go around saying I want to buy Florida and my wife could say that it was a responsible conversation, but it would still sound crazy to most folks and a giant waste of breath.

Bmoboy

(459 posts)
30. And while we're at it ...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jan 8

Maryland wants the southern 3 - 4 miles of Pennsylvania back.
Damn Mason and Dixon were bribed by the quakers to shift the line south.
Does that mean Fetterman is not the legal Senator for Pennsylvania?
Just asking.
Just having a reasonable conversation.

bigtree

(91,709 posts)
31. when Trump says 'buy' Greenland, he's just trying to intimidate them
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 8

...why join in on that imperialist cosplay bullying?

Oopsie Daisy

(5,564 posts)
34. I figured something like this would happen. I hate to be the one to say I told you so... but *
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:55 PM
Jan 8

* actually, never mind... I do like being the one (or one of the many) who expressed our doubts.

I'm feeling more disheartened than "disappointed". It's hard to be disappointed over something that I was kind of expecting in the first place. --- Oh well. It's not like we had control of the Senate anyway.

Raven123

(6,515 posts)
36. Of course. It's not like there aren't other issues of more importance to the American people
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:08 PM
Jan 8

No. It is not a responsible discussion. It is a distraction.

Botany

(73,691 posts)
84. Yup!
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jan 11

A 100% planned distraction to take our eyes off the coming shit storm of
fascism, cryptocurrency scams, theft of everything by Trump, and that the
election was dirty as shit brought to us by Musk, the GRU, and the biggest
criminal in American history is now going back into the White House.

I smell Bannon & Roger Stone all over these false flags.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,564 posts)
43. I take your point, but Manchin was the BEST we could hope for to come out of WV *
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 8

* and, actually, I was "happy" with Manchin because I knew that WV couldn't do any better than that. (At least he caucused with the Dems and helped us to keep the majority control).

But when it comes to PA, we can definitely do better. I'm sympathetic to his health and mental issues, but I feel like Lamb would have been a better choice and a stronger voice and someone who could better represent the interests of their constituents... and someone who would help to strengthen and unify Democrats rather than what we're seeing now.

Unless he resigns, we've got a bit of a wait before the next election. And, honestly, I don't see him running again... or being able to win a primary challenge.

Cirsium

(2,160 posts)
55. Why assume that?
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jan 9

I don't know why people write off states. There is no reason why a progressive could it win in West Virginia.

Jesse Jackson came to Appalachia in 1988 — and he kept coming back.


In 1960, Robert F. Kennedy was deeply involved in his brother John F. Kennedy’s campaign for the presidency, often traveling to various parts of the country to rally support. Bluefield, West Virginia, was a key stop during this campaign, as West Virginia’s primary was seen as a critical test of John F. Kennedy’s viability as a Catholic candidate in a predominantly Protestant state.
When Robert F. Kennedy stopped for lunch in Bluefield, he was likely engaging directly with the local community, showcasing the Kennedy campaign’s commitment to grassroots outreach. These kinds of stops were characteristic of the Kennedy strategy, which relied on personal connections, compelling speeches, and an energetic presence to win over voters.
The West Virginia primary ended up being pivotal, as John F. Kennedy’s victory there dispelled doubts about his ability to win in non-Catholic states and helped solidify his path to the Democratic nomination. Robert’s efforts in connecting with local communities like Bluefield played an important role in that success.

https://vintagenewsdaily.com/robert-f-kennedy-stopping-for-lunch-in-bluefield-west-virginia-while-campaigning-for-his-brother-1960/


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Cirsium

(2,160 posts)
59. OK
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 9

After all, the way things are is the way they will always be?

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not?"

Robert F. Kennedy

As quoted by his brother Ted in the eulogy he delivered at RFK's funeral, June 8th, 1968.

Cirsium

(2,160 posts)
66. Sure, that is the path we have been on
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 02:45 AM
Jan 10

What else from the past should we jettison so that we can be "realistic" and "pratical?"

How has being "realistic" and "pratical" worked out?

It stopped being 1968 long, long ago, back when people decided to be "realistic" and "pratical." We have lost ground ever since.

I for one refuse to live in that "real world" you are talking about.

madinmaryland

(65,341 posts)
44. Unless Greenland can start producing a lot of eggs, then who cares. It's all about the
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jan 8

Price of eggs and inflation!

elocs

(23,857 posts)
45. Wasn't Denmark a founding member of NATO?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:52 PM
Jan 8

Wouldn't other members be obligated to defend it if they were attacked, even by another member?

justhanginon

(3,358 posts)
79. Same here! Loudmouth showboat with a sweat clothes schtick! Argued with my daughter about this guy.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jan 11

Performance artist!

Celerity

(48,970 posts)
68. Fetty needs a 'Fuck Off' ring to start his journey to male Sinema fashion plate.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 03:02 AM
Jan 10


Then he can move on to a 'Dangerous Creature' hoodie....





Mz Pip

(28,047 posts)
60. Sure. Having that conversation makes sense
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jan 9

Only if Greenland was for sale. Denmark shows no interest in having that conversation.

So really, its’s just another stupid idea from Trump.

Mark.b2

(540 posts)
80. My mom and father-in-law both had strokes, and both were never mentally the same...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jan 11

My MIL went from being the sweetest, kindest grandmother to almost mean to her grandkids. Not physically, just in the things she would say to them. We had to stop letting her babysit for us.

My FIL went from being gregarious to quite introverted. He killed himself about five years after the stroke.

Both did not become better people after their strokes. Fetterman, thus far, has done the same.

Sad.

Bonx

(2,304 posts)
74. Acquiring Greenland via purchase would be a fantastic win for the U.S.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:56 PM
Jan 11

Sorry everyone, but it's true.

Haggard Celine

(17,119 posts)
87. But what do Greenlanders want?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jan 11

That's the important thing. Of course, if Greenlanders want to be owned by the United States, that's their prerogative. I don't think they do though. If I were a Greenlander I would choose to stay with Denmark. Look how the U.S. treats Puerto Rico.

badhair77

(4,808 posts)
82. He was in his hometown of York, PA last weekend and posted pics
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:16 PM
Jan 11

of having breakfast and lunch at 2 restaurants that were pioneers in ignoring Covid rules. Local Dems are still angry. Patronizing these places and then rubbing it in, for whom?

Cha

(309,197 posts)
88. I have a question for Fetterman.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:46 PM
Jan 11

he Scolds Dems.. does he Ever Scold Treasonous magats?😡

Tarzanrock

(666 posts)
89. More evidence of Fetterman's defective brain malfunctioning ...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jan 11

release the MRI scans of your brain, Senator, so the rest of us Democrats can understand your physiological pathology.

ProfessorGAC

(72,141 posts)
90. A Responsible Conversation?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 07:08 PM
Jan 11

It's responsible to discuss purchasing something the current foreign state says isn't for sale?
It appears to be a silly idea & waste of time, which is the opposite of responsible government.
A responsible conversation would be about lowering the prices on food staples, not nonsense about buying Greenland.

Seasider

(205 posts)
92. "It's not a "responsible conversation" when the people who own the land emphatically say it's not for sale
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jan 11

and exactly where exactly are we gonna get the money to buy a territory that large and rich in resources? We're over 30 trillion in debt right now. Is Trump gonna tax the rich at a significantly higher rate? Of course he won't. This whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

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