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(36,594 posts)FreeForm73
(120 posts)just like that.
Shapiro now willing to listen, there must be more money out there than even in sports!!!
Irish_Dem
(60,612 posts)Lemons UK
(46 posts)Stargleamer
(2,292 posts)I see no indication that they would want that.
Tickle
(3,230 posts)I didn't realize they had 54 seats.
What is up with this guy? They tortured Fetterman when he got elected.
Polybius
(18,653 posts)Fetterman switching would be the 53rd.
Tickle
(3,230 posts)Polybius
(18,653 posts)Last night I was like "I know they had 49 seats and I think they picked up 3 seats, but for some reason I the number 53 keeps sticking out." I had to look it up myself.
totodeinhere
(13,410 posts)Polybius
(18,653 posts)In November, they picked up WV, PA, and Montana. That's 52, unless in missing one maybe?
totodeinhere
(13,410 posts)Polybius
(18,653 posts)But can you tell me which one I missed?
totodeinhere
(13,410 posts)I was just lying down for a nap. Will look it up later.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,228 posts)Sherrod Brown lost.
haele
(13,711 posts)Does affect the personality, especially if he was somewhat a borderline centrist to begin with.
I don't know Pennsylvania politics, but I do have experience with Privileged Majority Grievance Derangement Syndrome.
It can affect even liberal and progressive folks who benefit from being a majority gender or race without acknowledging the privileges inherent in being "the social norm" in the organizational hierarchies they operate in.
It takes a lot of unpleasant self-awareness to realize when the self-centered "don't you dare ignore my needs or take my stuff" feeling hits one during the consideration of sharing opportunities and benefits with different or minority population.
Haele
His pumpkin has been scrambled.
gab13by13
(25,564 posts)the body snatchers got him.
kysrsoze
(6,188 posts)and no one on the Republican side ever finds a conscience and goes independent, much less Dem? It's really disheartening to see you can't trust people to stay on the side of truth, normalcy, dignity, public service, etc.
Polybius
(18,653 posts)He then caucused with Democrats, costing Republicans the Senate. Lincoln Chafee switched too.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)We end up with whatever you want to call this. Not a democratic lawmaker interested in helping americans.
Unladen Swallow
(491 posts)AllyCat
(17,308 posts)Bettie
(17,471 posts)on his way to switching parties.
ScratchCat
(2,506 posts)Greenland isn't for sale.
JFC with these people.
Meowmee
(6,444 posts)Cherrycheeks
(196 posts)How many more of these are in the Democratic party.😡
niyad
(121,031 posts)your head.
sop
(11,862 posts)That's quite a long hospital stay for treatment of clinical depression. Reportedly, he's currently on medication. Obviously, something's still not right with Fetterman.
Good thing for Fetterman U.S. Senators receive excellent mental health care. That's probably why he wants to hang on to his job.
Sky Jewels
(8,842 posts)Fuck this guy.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,617 posts)Solly Mack
(93,312 posts)struggle4progress
(120,639 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,218 posts)Or that Denmark would sell? This whole conversation is stupid.
Drum
(9,965 posts)Any day now, I expect.
Johonny
(22,406 posts)sakabatou
(43,354 posts)MagickMuffin
(17,247 posts)You do not control other peoples emotions. Focus on yourself and seek help. Your heart and mind has ceased to function properly.
xmas74
(29,804 posts)A "responsible" way to show that Trump is insane.
Voltaire2
(14,995 posts)This is vile on his part. I do not at all think he believes this, so this is performative signaling to the fascist Republican Party.
surfered
(4,056 posts)Both Denmark and its semiautonomous territory Greenland say its not for sale. I suppose I could go around saying I want to buy Florida and my wife could say that it was a responsible conversation, but it would still sound crazy to most folks and a giant waste of breath.
Bmoboy
(418 posts)Maryland wants the southern 3 - 4 miles of Pennsylvania back.
Damn Mason and Dixon were bribed by the quakers to shift the line south.
Does that mean Fetterman is not the legal Senator for Pennsylvania?
Just asking.
Just having a reasonable conversation.
bigtree
(90,339 posts)...why join in on that imperialist cosplay bullying?
ExciteBike66
(2,656 posts)Why not Baltic Ave and Park Place?
Basso8vb
(513 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(4,646 posts)* actually, never mind... I do like being the one (or one of the many) who expressed our doubts.
I'm feeling more disheartened than "disappointed". It's hard to be disappointed over something that I was kind of expecting in the first place. --- Oh well. It's not like we had control of the Senate anyway.
Nixie
(17,449 posts)being too normal.
sinkingfeeling
(53,395 posts)Raven123
(6,175 posts)No. It is not a responsible discussion. It is a distraction.
A 100% planned distraction to take our eyes off the coming shit storm of
fascism, cryptocurrency scams, theft of everything by Trump, and that the
election was dirty as shit brought to us by Musk, the GRU, and the biggest
criminal in American history is now going back into the White House.
I smell Bannon & Roger Stone all over these false flags.
mike_c
(36,414 posts)Cha
(306,113 posts)Normalize Mump And giving advice to Dems.
doc03
(37,093 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(4,646 posts)* and, actually, I was "happy" with Manchin because I knew that WV couldn't do any better than that. (At least he caucused with the Dems and helped us to keep the majority control).
But when it comes to PA, we can definitely do better. I'm sympathetic to his health and mental issues, but I feel like Lamb would have been a better choice and a stronger voice and someone who could better represent the interests of their constituents... and someone who would help to strengthen and unify Democrats rather than what we're seeing now.
Unless he resigns, we've got a bit of a wait before the next election. And, honestly, I don't see him running again... or being able to win a primary challenge.
Cirsium
(1,235 posts)I don't know why people write off states. There is no reason why a progressive could it win in West Virginia.
Jesse Jackson came to Appalachia in 1988 and he kept coming back.
When Robert F. Kennedy stopped for lunch in Bluefield, he was likely engaging directly with the local community, showcasing the Kennedy campaigns commitment to grassroots outreach. These kinds of stops were characteristic of the Kennedy strategy, which relied on personal connections, compelling speeches, and an energetic presence to win over voters.
The West Virginia primary ended up being pivotal, as John F. Kennedys victory there dispelled doubts about his ability to win in non-Catholic states and helped solidify his path to the Democratic nomination. Roberts efforts in connecting with local communities like Bluefield played an important role in that success.
https://vintagenewsdaily.com/robert-f-kennedy-stopping-for-lunch-in-bluefield-west-virginia-while-campaigning-for-his-brother-1960/
?si=GYNSolBUYr2mxkwQ
Oopsie Daisy
(4,646 posts)After all, the way things are is the way they will always be?
"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not?"
Robert F. Kennedy
As quoted by his brother Ted in the eulogy he delivered at RFK's funeral, June 8th, 1968.
Oopsie Daisy
(4,646 posts)Cirsium
(1,235 posts)What else from the past should we jettison so that we can be "realistic" and "pratical?"
How has being "realistic" and "pratical" worked out?
It stopped being 1968 long, long ago, back when people decided to be "realistic" and "pratical." We have lost ground ever since.
I for one refuse to live in that "real world" you are talking about.
Oopsie Daisy
(4,646 posts)dalton99a
(85,153 posts)madinmaryland
(65,224 posts)Price of eggs and inflation!
elocs
(23,105 posts)Wouldn't other members be obligated to defend it if they were attacked, even by another member?
City Lights
(25,473 posts)Autumn
(46,815 posts)justhanginon
(3,337 posts)Performance artist!
Initech
(102,774 posts)Fuck anyone who is normalizing his madness!
Paladin
(29,068 posts)Democrats need to be rid of him, just as soon as possible.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(405 posts)Hekate
(95,562 posts)Celerity
(47,115 posts)Then he can move on to a 'Dangerous Creature' hoodie....
Blue Owl
(55,007 posts)jalan48
(14,562 posts)Mz Pip
(27,949 posts)Only if Greenland was for sale. Denmark shows no interest in having that conversation.
So really, itss just another stupid idea from Trump.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,617 posts)B.See
(4,002 posts)'Buying and being bought.'
oasis
(51,842 posts)hope Im not tricked into doing that.
ecstatic
(34,568 posts)Mark.b2
(513 posts)My MIL went from being the sweetest, kindest grandmother to almost mean to her grandkids. Not physically, just in the things she would say to them. We had to stop letting her babysit for us.
My FIL went from being gregarious to quite introverted. He killed himself about five years after the stroke.
Both did not become better people after their strokes. Fetterman, thus far, has done the same.
Sad.
Jose Garcia
(2,966 posts)Bonx
(2,246 posts)Sorry everyone, but it's true.
Haggard Celine
(17,066 posts)That's the important thing. Of course, if Greenlanders want to be owned by the United States, that's their prerogative. I don't think they do though. If I were a Greenlander I would choose to stay with Denmark. Look how the U.S. treats Puerto Rico.
no_hypocrisy
(49,437 posts)kimbutgar
(23,777 posts)Shame on him.
usaf-vet
(7,084 posts)badhair77
(4,690 posts)of having breakfast and lunch at 2 restaurants that were pioneers in ignoring Covid rules. Local Dems are still angry. Patronizing these places and then rubbing it in, for whom?
Lulu KC
(5,277 posts)Please someone call his handler.
Cha
(306,113 posts)he Scolds Dems.. does he Ever Scold Treasonous magats?😡
Tarzanrock
(551 posts)release the MRI scans of your brain, Senator, so the rest of us Democrats can understand your physiological pathology.
ProfessorGAC
(70,942 posts)It's responsible to discuss purchasing something the current foreign state says isn't for sale?
It appears to be a silly idea & waste of time, which is the opposite of responsible government.
A responsible conversation would be about lowering the prices on food staples, not nonsense about buying Greenland.
The Third Doctor
(395 posts)Primary him. Let's see how he votes.
Seasider
(187 posts)and exactly where exactly are we gonna get the money to buy a territory that large and rich in resources? We're over 30 trillion in debt right now. Is Trump gonna tax the rich at a significantly higher rate? Of course he won't. This whole thing is beyond ridiculous.