Some of these Project 2025 operatives may be trained or former CIA agents or others from the US Intelligence sector that are allied with Trump/MAGA. Some Intelligence operatives have experience with rigging elections. Which is of course highly illegal. It is also illegal for CIA agents to operate in US domestic territory. But of course, suspending the US Constitution would be highly illegal as well. They have openly said that intend to suspend the Constitution. What other illegal plans are they implementing behind the scenes?

Trump's Regime may well be engaged in illegal activities. Which should not be a surprise for people who tolerate or even celebrate a convicted felon for their candidate to be President. Illegal activities might render the entire Trump Regime as an illegal administration. I suspect that there are a number of covert Project 2025 people operating behind the scenes to implement that Fascist Plan. Why is the media no longer talking about Project 2025? Have they gotten to some of the media yet? We need security and protection for our allies and media figures from our loyal defenders of the Constitution. MAGA 2025 Fascists must be countered and stopped.

This thread sounds like the knuckle-headed conspiratorial right circa 2020 after Trump lost. Don't stoop to that level.

We need to implement effective counter propaganda. It is a mistake to try and fight fair against a Fascist Regime that cheats and uses dirty tricks and lies and tricks ignorant Americans. We need to fight fire with fire. Only fighting fair against a corrupt Regime is a mistake.

Especially whatever might deny him as much power over the rest of us as he can slither his way into.

Cite some compelling evidence and I'm all ears.

Fair enough. Thank you for your response. I will look at that thread.

look how much 4 years of it damaged TSF's results!

I remain doubting malaise since election night

Same with Russia, China and the biggest culprit, our own mainstream media that normalized and sanewashed the asshole.

But, unfortunately, more people voted for him than Harris.

It’s easier to believe that it had to be fixed than people are this ignorant, this stupid and this hateful….but they are.

And they’re all going to pay for it just like the rest of us.

People need to stop chasing conspiracy theories (we aren’t MAGAts. Do better) and get on board with the actual reasons we lost. The party seems to have a grip on this. We know we are getting absolutely CRUSHED by misinformation and the endless right wing voices out there. If the DNC enters the war of information, and does it right, we’ll win again.

We won’t win by sulking about how there is no way we could possibly lose so they must have cheated.

Here is an article from the Guardian on how Musk interfered with the election. This is not a conspiracy theory. It is an established fact.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/12/elon-musk-twitter-x-elections-misinformation

even when you have a megaphone.

There is a big gap between rigging an election and spreading misinformation.

But it is illegal to suspend the Constitution, which Trump and his MAGA Gang have outright said that they are going to try and do. Anyone who supports the suspension of the US Constitution is a fascist and an enemy of democracy. I would put this label on anyone who is a real supporter of Trump and MAGA, and Musk is certainly one. I was admittedly loose with my terms "rigging" and "misinformation" and I have noted it elsewhere in this thread and also in a thread started elsewhere by Bernado de La Paz. My original point stands. Musk and his Tech Bro Cronies are pro MAGA Fascists and are enemies of Democracy. They may not have literally rigged the votes in the blue wall states, but they certainly would have done so if they could have. These people are Fascists and they need to be stopped. We will not do it by playing nice with them.

Admittedly I was loose with the terms. People may use differing terms. I do believe it could also be called election interference as well as misinformation and disinformation. The point is Musk and his Tech Bro Cronies at X interfered with our election. Thank you for your comment.

Yep. He said that.

And too quick to shake hands. It's okay to get pissed once and awhile. Manners and politeness doesn't have to be 24/7.

They always do that thing where they holler about something like the Big Lie. They always blame the democrats for and then do it. Just like maybe Hillary's emails classified documents. Then trump steals boxes of classified documents. They say democrat pedophiles meet a pizza joint. The real story was They were meeting Epstein, my guess would be Chuck E Cheese.

Here is an article about how Musk and the Tech Bros at X interfered with the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/12/elon-musk-twitter-x-elections-misinformation

anything is possible with the technology and will to do evil that we have today.

If we can find a basis that establishes the incoming Trump Administration as an illegal Regime, that is a basis for countering their power. Frankly what is more likely is that Trump might suspend the US Constitution and/or suspend elections. They have outright said the first and implied the latter. Both of these things are prima facie illegal and would render Trump's Administration illegal. If Trump's Administration were illegal there would be a basis for legally removing him, probably impeachment.

Admittedly it sounds like a kind of a far out conspiracy idea but frankly we need to run effective counter propaganda against the MAGA Fascist thugs. And sometimes there are real conspiracies. Musk and X clearly engaged in a propaganda and misinformation campaign during the 2024 election.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/12/elon-musk-twitter-x-elections-misinformation

Also, i suspect that there are a number of covert Project 2025 people operating behind the scenes in the new MAGA government that is about to come in. This is speculation but there might be some truth to it. I think that these people and their plans will be revealed pretty soon after Trump is sworn in.

As I wrote elsewhere, we need to operate counter propaganda against this incoming MAGA Fascist Regime. These people use lies and disinformation to confuse the ignorant and to gain power. It is a mistake to fight fair against an illegitimate Regime that uses lies and dirty tricks. We need to fight fire with fire.

put it beneath them. Fucking Monsters.

of MAGA nuts 4 years ago.

What's next? Special Forces attacking these "CIA Operatives" in a secret data warehouse in Stalingrad?

amounts to "rigging a"

And election interference? Isn't that just a made up term that Trump used to deflect anything bad for him?

Part of my point is that we need to put out counter propaganda against Trump and his MAGA Gang. If he and his crew of clowns insist that Dems have "rigged" an election, we should counter with "No. MAGA is the one doing the rigging". If your opponent is a Fascist Regime that spins out lies, misinformation and dirty tricks, I think that it is a mistake to fight fair against that. We need to counter that with more than good intentions. I recommend a more gonzo approach to counter the MAGA nonsense machine. Your personal approach may certainly differ, but to each their own.

There are a lot of strange people in the MAGA movement (bloated gasbag Steve Bannon, rat faced fink Stephen Miller, the traitorous Michael Flynn). If these people are the faces of the Trump MAGA Gang, I imagine that the unknown and invisible ones behind the scenes are just as bad and weird. I imagine washout characters from the fringes of the intelligence sector. This may not seem realistic on the surface of it, but remember that these people are actually talking about suspending the US Constitution and abolishing the FBI. I would not put anything past them.

Incidently - Special Forces attacking CIA Operatives in a secret data warehouse in Stalingrad- I would watch that movie.

Fuck the Paypal Mafia and their ill gotten gains. They can go shove it straight up their sorry asses!