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Jit423

(1,017 posts) Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:48 PM Jan 4

Hear is something to contemplate:

Our 200+ year old democratic Republic did not die under the first black President. But it will surely be killed by white, conservative, fascist oligarchs led by a lying, corrupt, barely literate, felon.

This is how an honest portrayal of American history should be crafted.

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Hear is something to contemplate: (Original Post) Jit423 Jan 4 OP

*Here Skittles Jan 4 #1

Not quite ready to say "killed," but certainly damaged. Definitely history should not coddle white wingers. Silent Type Jan 5 #2

Damaged for sure. But I recently was encouraged by this piece that Robert Reich shared. summer_in_TX Jan 5 #3

thanks for sharing that . Good read proud patriot Jan 5 #4

So, we're back to George III usonian Jan 5 #5

On the upside, had Georgie won the war we'd all have universal healthcare. BannonsLiver Jan 5 #7

But as losing rebels, we'd be missing important rights. usonian Jan 5 #8

I love Place Names. EndlessWire Jan 5 #12

I have found many, many English place names in Mass and CA. usonian Jan 5 #13

Would be a shame to ban the 'precious'. travelingthrulife Jan 5 #15

IIRC, gun control laws were passed in the US chiefly when the Black Panthers armed up and advised others to do likewise. usonian Jan 5 #17

I'm listening.... Fla_Democrat Jan 5 #6

Well stated! LastDemocratInSC Jan 5 #9

I reject the premise of your question William769 Jan 5 #10

I disagree with you. EndlessWire Jan 5 #11

I guess I'll use irresponsible once again. William769 Jan 5 #14

That all you got? EndlessWire Jan 5 #16

What I got is certain people with hyperbole. William769 Jan 5 #18

Skittles

(162,406 posts)

1. *Here

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:49 PM

Jan 4

and I agree

Silent Type

(8,631 posts)

2. Not quite ready to say "killed," but certainly damaged. Definitely history should not coddle white wingers.

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:11 AM

Jan 5

summer_in_TX

(3,496 posts)

3. Damaged for sure. But I recently was encouraged by this piece that Robert Reich shared.

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:39 AM

Jan 5

It was by Asli Aydintasbas, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C., and a former journalist, who published a short essay recently in Politico Magazine. She is Turkish and had lessons for us from her experience under Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's regime. She had a number of observations about our situation in America that were very encouraging.

https://open.substack.com/pub/robertreich/p/trump-will-overplay-his-hand-be-ready

proud patriot

(101,672 posts)

4. thanks for sharing that . Good read

Reply to summer_in_TX (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:51 AM

Jan 5

usonian

(16,389 posts)

5. So, we're back to George III

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:03 AM

Jan 5

He looked orange, too.

BannonsLiver

(18,925 posts)

7. On the upside, had Georgie won the war we'd all have universal healthcare.

Reply to usonian (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:06 AM

Jan 5

usonian

(16,389 posts)

8. But as losing rebels, we'd be missing important rights.

Reply to BannonsLiver (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:18 AM

Jan 5

They’d confiscate all the rifles and ban guns in the “colonies”

We’d have odd place names like New England, Dorchester, Gloucester, New London … Oh, the horror.

EndlessWire

(7,576 posts)

12. I love Place Names.

Reply to usonian (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:07 PM

Jan 5

England has some of the weirdest place names. You often wonder, where the heck did that come from? What is the meaning of this? Fun to think about, but not easy getting directions.

usonian

(16,389 posts)

13. I have found many, many English place names in Mass and CA.

Reply to EndlessWire (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:45 PM

Jan 5

I knew there was a list, and Wikipedia notes: "This list is incomplete".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locations_in_the_United_States_with_an_English_name

Bewildering!

MA is loaded!

Does GB have more or fewer?

travelingthrulife

(1,755 posts)

15. Would be a shame to ban the 'precious'.

Reply to usonian (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:52 PM

Jan 5

usonian

(16,389 posts)

17. IIRC, gun control laws were passed in the US chiefly when the Black Panthers armed up and advised others to do likewise.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:07 PM

Jan 5

Rebels won and blessed the tools of rebellion, even if they did so through ambiguous wording.

Fla_Democrat

(2,589 posts)

6. I'm listening....

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:06 AM

Jan 5

LastDemocratInSC

(3,968 posts)

9. Well stated!

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 03:23 AM

Jan 5

Thank you.

William769

(57,281 posts)

10. I reject the premise of your question

Reply to Jit423 (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 05:56 AM

Jan 5

America will not be killed off in the next 4 years. Saying so is just irresponsible.

EndlessWire

(7,576 posts)

11. I disagree with you.

Reply to William769 (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:02 PM

Jan 5

A democracy is all inclusive of its people. That's not the promise we are now given. Remember, on Day One he plans to deport anyone he doesn't like--a good many of us. That's not Democracy. If you are White, Male, and Christian, that may well survive. But the rest of us will be oppressed.

Don't be so quick to proclaim that OP is irresponsible. Speaking up against this possibility--which he has publicly announced in so many aspects of our culture--is exactly what is needed. Getting us to shut up is a goal of P25, because when opinions are heard, their power diminishes.

Power to the People! Old but effective.

William769

(57,281 posts)

14. I guess I'll use irresponsible once again.

Reply to EndlessWire (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:45 PM

Jan 5

EndlessWire

(7,576 posts)

16. That all you got?

Reply to William769 (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:03 PM

Jan 5

Because in 2025, I plan to voice any objection I have at any time I choose to, in defense of innocent people, and against this embarrassing, mean, vile, ignorant dictator and his equally vile minions. So, you'll have to do better than that.

William769

(57,281 posts)

18. What I got is certain people with hyperbole.

Reply to EndlessWire (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 02:14 PM

Jan 5

I normally skip on by those but today I guess was your lucky day.

Have a nice day.

P.S. "I plan to voice any objection I have at any time I choose to, in defense of innocent people". I would hope everyone here would do that. The rest of it though is just well, hyperbole.

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