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TheBlackAdder

(29,155 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 04:15 AM Jan 3

Sen. Chris Murphy: Trump intentionally lied about immigrants, possibly to declare martial law.

The warning came Thursday as Republicans – led by Trump – continued to falsely claim that President Joe Biden’s “open border policy” is to blame for authorities missing signs that could have thwarted the attack. House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-LA) suggested that diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, initiatives also played a role.

“In the coming days, watch for autocracy-fetishizing MAGA figures who call on Trump to use ‘emergency powers’ or ‘domestic war powers’ (i.e. some form of martial law) to confront domestic terrorism,” Murphy told his X followers on Thursday. “They aren't out to destroy terrorists. They're out to destroy the rule of law.”

The Connecticut senator made a series of posts to his X account in the hours after a man rammed a pickup truck through a crowd in New Orleans’ famed French Quarter to condemn the attack as “an abomination” – and call out Trump.

“Trump is intentionally lying about the attacker being an immigrant - he wasn’t,” Murphy wrote above a social media post from Trump. “Why does it matter? Because he is going to use episodes of violence to justify his crack down on immigrants and his attack on dissent - whether the facts line up or not.”

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-in-new-orleans/



Yeah, the way Trump was tripling down on immigrant terrorists is no mistake.
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Sen. Chris Murphy: Trump intentionally lied about immigrants, possibly to declare martial law. (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jan 3 OP
KnR Hekate Jan 3 #1
"Trump intentionally lied " speak easy Jan 3 #2
Non paywall ancianita Jan 3 #3
Martial law was tried in South Korea last year. Didn't work but made a big mess for 2025. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 3 #4
I caught the tail end of a BBC World report that said Mike 03 Jan 3 #5
I wonder what US organization organizes the caravans LiberalArkie Jan 3 #6
Evangelical and Fundamentalist churches in Latin America and the Caribbean with links malaise Jan 3 #9
As the Orange Menace seeks total power,.. magicarpet Jan 3 #35
Martial Law enid602 Jan 3 #51
Senator Murphy's warning would be more effective maxrandb Jan 3 #7
We agree malaise Jan 3 #8
Trump complains that he's treated poorly in the media and then lies on a social media platform. OrlandoDem2 Jan 3 #10
And crash the Economy so everyone but the wealthy will suffer. Justice matters. Jan 3 #25
Count on a martial law declaration, sooner than later Arazi Jan 3 #11
We are in for our own Kristallnacht from almost day one w/Trump using illegal immigrants as the pretext. Botany Jan 3 #13
I believe some of the first protests will revolve around the incarceration of American children Arazi Jan 3 #14
The Republicans have been working on their plans to overthrow our Constitutional rule of law for years. Botany Jan 3 #17
Agreed. And I believe it will happen very quickly. Arazi Jan 3 #18
In my fucked up mind I expect a cyber attack on DU very soon and more things like Trump's miracle Botany Jan 3 #20
I don't think DU is big enough to target Arazi Jan 3 #28
The Russians attacked and shut down DU on election night 2016 Botany Jan 3 #30
Actually I Rebl2 Jan 3 #33
And he will continue to do so. yardwork Jan 3 #19
they're using it to push their shitty nominees. mopinko Jan 3 #12
How long before Steve Scalise starts wearing a white robe with a pointy hat to work? marmar Jan 3 #15
Throw in ALL the Southern MAGA Senators and Representatives in the mix. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 3 #16
You mean Steve (I didn't know they were Klansmen) Scalise B.See Jan 3 #45
Right, marshal law. You know what happens then? ScratchCat Jan 3 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 3 #23
Yes I do RainCaster Jan 3 #24
Let me ask you this: ScratchCat Jan 3 #31
All. Of what you are saying is true...and I sure hope you are right! PortTack Jan 3 #38
Another reason I dont believe it'll happen. And no, the JCoS aren't going to stop the inauguration Callie1979 Jan 3 #41
In the scenario I speak of ScratchCat Jan 3 #42
No. While we always must prepare for the worst, I dont believe they'll let him do it Callie1979 Jan 3 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 3 #22
I am afraid he will attend the inauguration of the felonious rapist nazi. Justice matters. Jan 3 #27
Comments like that could unleash MAGA hoards on communities anywhere in the USA bucolic_frolic Jan 3 #26
Kudos to Murphy. Where are the rest of the Democrats? Bluetus Jan 3 #29
The convicted felon, president, lying, I'm shocked. republianmushroom Jan 3 #32
The devastating new chapter (or continuation) started on new year's day. Justice matters. Jan 3 #34
Hopefully it was never suspended dickthegrouch Jan 3 #47
The fact that both of the perps were military, means the solution is more military? IronLionZion Jan 3 #36
I did an OP about this yesterday...and was told I was being too conspiratorial PortTack Jan 3 #37
Senator Chris Murphy isn't conspiratorial Arazi Jan 3 #43
I know Sen Murphy isn't conspiratorial. I did an OP, my own opinion that this may have been staged by PortTack Jan 3 #44
Was agreeing with you and him Arazi Jan 3 #49
OOH! HEY REPUBLICANS, WHY STOP THERE!! Montauk6 Jan 3 #39
Immigrants and Trump's 'poisoning the blood' mantra will be the PRETEXT B.See Jan 3 #46
Trump's Reichstag fire AdamGG Jan 3 #48
I'm assuming the ML declaration will be in his Hassler Jan 3 #50
We'll see what Americans are made of if this happens. Do we sit and take it while neverforget Jan 3 #52

speak easy

(11,040 posts)
2. "Trump intentionally lied "
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 04:41 AM
Jan 3

Here is where we are:, This is what MAGA is all about. They love it if they can hate ppl more.

Mike 03

(17,887 posts)
5. I caught the tail end of a BBC World report that said
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 06:09 AM
Jan 3

a caravan of immigrants was heading up from southern Mexico to the U.S. border in an attempt to get here before President Biden leaves office. The commentator said it was a ten day trip, but if for any reason it is delayed I can see that being the Reichstag Fire excuse to declare an emergency. One reason they might be delayed is that our last two administrations did ask Mexico to stop these large migrating groups. But Mexico might only succeed in slowing them down just enough. But we all know Trump can pull fake crises out of his ass whenever he feels like it.

With DHS totally under his auspices, he can manufacture fraudulent "intel" any time he wants to prove anything he wants.

In any event, I do expect this declaration at some point, likely sooner rather than later.

malaise

(280,032 posts)
9. Evangelical and Fundamentalist churches in Latin America and the Caribbean with links
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 06:26 AM
Jan 3

to scumbags in the US. They get jobs in hotels, including maid services, home care and farm work.

magicarpet

(17,403 posts)
35. As the Orange Menace seeks total power,..
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jan 3

.... Martial Law would be a tasty recipie towards reaching that objective of total governmental power in the hands of djt.

Djt craves the taste the royal crown atop his head and his fat ass plunked on the throne. While he enjoys all the accoutrement of being the King and new found total self appointed Monarch.

With absolute power and immunity from criminality djt can go right to town in his quest for selfenrichment as he plunders the US Treasury.

enid602

(9,133 posts)
51. Martial Law
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 07:50 PM
Jan 3

Trump needs martial law/control over the National Guard to subdue citizen reaction to cuts in SS/Medicare. And those detention centers he wants would come in handy as well.

maxrandb

(16,107 posts)
7. Senator Murphy's warning would be more effective
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 06:21 AM
Jan 3
IF HE WASN'T MAKING IT ON A NAZI SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OrlandoDem2

(2,395 posts)
10. Trump complains that he's treated poorly in the media and then lies on a social media platform.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 07:53 AM
Jan 3

This is why he wants podcast and social media coverage. He knows he can lie about whatever he wants and get away with it. He spews whatever vile crap he thinks and gets away with it. He WILL do this to declare a national emergency to deport all undocumented people.

Justice matters.

(7,700 posts)
25. And crash the Economy so everyone but the wealthy will suffer.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jan 3

But his oligarch 1 said it will be "temporary"

Arazi

(7,280 posts)
11. Count on a martial law declaration, sooner than later
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 08:07 AM
Jan 3

Within weeks of inauguration if I had to guess.

It’s the Autocrat 101 playbook. Eliminate overt resistance early.

A word of caution, the first protests post-inauguration will garner a ferocious response and participants will be arrested and charged aggressively to tamp down resistance. Be careful out there and be prepared for extreme belligerence and violence from cops who will be newly empowered by Traitor and his DOJ to respond forcefully.

Botany

(72,906 posts)
13. We are in for our own Kristallnacht from almost day one w/Trump using illegal immigrants as the pretext.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jan 3

Never mind that Trump used undocumented Polish labor on his NYC properties and
undocumented workers on the construction of his New Jersey Golf Club.

Arazi

(7,280 posts)
14. I believe some of the first protests will revolve around the incarceration of American children
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jan 3

When their undocumented, parents are arrested.

It might be a Reichstag type of event that provokes his declaration of martial law, but I think it will be protests.

It’s a full proof way to round up and cow resistors early on which he’ll need to go full authoritarian

Botany

(72,906 posts)
17. The Republicans have been working on their plans to overthrow our Constitutional rule of law for years.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jan 3

Remember Chuck Grassley’s Jan. 5th 2021 comment that he didn’t expect Vice President Pence
to be in Congress on Jan. 6th to oversee the certification of the electoral college vote, or that
in “protesting” the outcome of the 2020 election they took voting machines in and multiple states
where the then had access to the E.R.D. voting machines software and hardware, or the Republican
Congresspeople who gave guided tours of the US Capitol to the same people who invaded that
building on 1-6, and all the election deniers who subsequently became part of state and federal
positions?

We are in for a full blown attempt to install Christo fascism into America and BTW anybody
who questions the 2024 election is a conspiracy freak.

Arazi

(7,280 posts)
18. Agreed. And I believe it will happen very quickly.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jan 3

Within weeks, not months. I don’t think this group believes in a slow boil. I believe they’re the flamethrower types who will want to torch things ASAP

Botany

(72,906 posts)
20. In my fucked up mind I expect a cyber attack on DU very soon and more things like Trump's miracle
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jan 3

…. bullet wound that totally healed with in two weeks and didn’t even leave a scare or even a
scab or more shit they can blame on illegal immigrates.

Arazi

(7,280 posts)
28. I don't think DU is big enough to target
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:36 AM
Jan 3

We’re not that important 😂

But a cyberattack on transit systems, or banking, stock market etc is definitely plausible

Rebl2

(15,291 posts)
33. Actually I
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jan 3

have been having trouble with DU all week. Sometimes when I click on a story it takes forever to come up and other times it comes right up.

mopinko

(72,126 posts)
12. they're using it to push their shitty nominees.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 08:11 AM
Jan 3

citing it as reason to rush to rubberstamp these assholes.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,313 posts)
16. Throw in ALL the Southern MAGA Senators and Representatives in the mix.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jan 3

Wear your TRUE COLORS Boys and Girls!!

THAT means you Marsha, Katie, Tubby, John(the other Kennedy), MAGA Mike, Tim(the other Scott), Marjie, and more.

B.See

(4,191 posts)
45. You mean Steve (I didn't know they were Klansmen) Scalise
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jan 3

... or so he once claimed after word got out that he'd spoken before a gaggle of em?

I suspect he has a closet FULL of robes and hoods.

ScratchCat

(2,514 posts)
21. Right, marshal law. You know what happens then?
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:49 AM
Jan 3

Nobody goes to work. Kids don't go to school. Businesses all shut down. Grocery stores are out of food. People are shooting each other over a can of dog food. The stock market crashes overnight. Every "billionaire" now has nothing. The internet stops working.
Your phones stop working. There's no gas or diesel. Nobody has any obligation to follow any law, police no longer have any legitimate authority and the social contract is over.

That's what happens when you "declare marshal law" over fiction.

So let me ask you, do you think the wealthy who stand to lose everything are going to allow him to do this?

Response to ScratchCat (Reply #21)

RainCaster

(11,824 posts)
24. Yes I do
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:22 AM
Jan 3

The top 1% think that they are invincible. So they will gladly spend more money on personal security to keep the unwashed masses away.

ScratchCat

(2,514 posts)
31. Let me ask you this:
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jan 3

If one thinks he would/will actually do this, i.e., declare marshal law(destroy the country) to deport illegals, why wouldn't the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of Defense just "pre-empt" him on 01/21/2025 and detain him, and take control? Think about it for a second: He can't "declare marshal law" without destroying the country overnight. If he is going to cause something so drastic, why would it be allowed? Wouldn't the general consensus be that if there is a choice between to bad outcomes, the one without Trump being in control is the preferable one? We have 18 days for them to make their decision.

Callie1979

(479 posts)
41. Another reason I dont believe it'll happen. And no, the JCoS aren't going to stop the inauguration
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jan 3

I see enough MAGA idiots on the internet already claiming that BIDEN will use the military to stop trump from taking office.

ScratchCat

(2,514 posts)
42. In the scenario I speak of
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 01:15 PM
Jan 3
And no, the JCoS aren't going to stop the inauguration


It would come afterwards, only once he has been sworn in and tried to declare ML. They wouldn't have cause prior to that.

Callie1979

(479 posts)
40. No. While we always must prepare for the worst, I dont believe they'll let him do it
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 01:04 PM
Jan 3

But should he try, then someone WONT miss.

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Justice matters.

(7,700 posts)
27. I am afraid he will attend the inauguration of the felonious rapist nazi.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jan 3

That will not "restore the soul of the nation" at all.

bucolic_frolic

(48,178 posts)
26. Comments like that could unleash MAGA hoards on communities anywhere in the USA
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jan 3

People will die from these lies. Many people.

republianmushroom

(18,600 posts)
32. The convicted felon, president, lying, I'm shocked.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jan 3

Does the new convicted felon new lie record being Jan. 20 @ 1200 hr Washington time ?

Justice matters.

(7,700 posts)
34. The devastating new chapter (or continuation) started on new year's day.
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jan 3

From the lying fascist felonious rapist who killed the Bill.

The worst chapter in History is repeating in our faces, only different backgrounds.

dickthegrouch

(3,749 posts)
47. Hopefully it was never suspended
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 03:49 PM
Jan 3

It would be good to keep a running total of all his lies even during his “shadow presidency”

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
36. The fact that both of the perps were military, means the solution is more military?
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jan 3

kind of how the solution to gun violence is more guns.

The solution to most problems in society is for the GOP to screw completely different people who had nothing to do with it.

The US isn't South Korea. Nobody is going to jail Trump for Putin-esque authoritarian actions.

PortTack

(35,102 posts)
37. I did an OP about this yesterday...and was told I was being too conspiratorial
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jan 3

A trial run?

Attacks scattered across the country with obvious symbolism..cyber truck in front of trump property. Is this his trial run? Had this been post 1/20 I’d say this is his plan to initiate marshal law.

Possible or just my conspiracy?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219867907

PortTack

(35,102 posts)
44. I know Sen Murphy isn't conspiratorial. I did an OP, my own opinion that this may have been staged by
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jan 3

T-rump to use martial law.

Montauk6

(8,807 posts)
39. OOH! HEY REPUBLICANS, WHY STOP THERE!!
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jan 3

Open borders, pet-eating immigrants, DEI??? Come on, guys, good start but you can do better than that!

Lack of nationwide abortion ban
Critical-race theory
Transgender operations on kids
They/Them pronouns
Wokeness (esp. Disney)
Internet porn
Gangsta rap
Social Security
Lack of prayer in schools
Darwinism
Secular Humanism
Colin Kaepernick
BLM
Gun Control
Shirley McLaine & J.Z. Knight
Lack of family values
Forced vaccination
Fluoride
Participation trophies
Benghazi
Hillary Clinton's emails
Saul Alinsky
George Soros
Liberal Media
Greenland
Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his tan suit
Hunter Biden
War on Christmas
Joe Biden's dog
AOC
Norman Lear
Costco
Letitia James
Stolen 2020 Election
Trump Derangement Syndrome
Muslims
Socialist Democrats
Bill Ayers
Area 51
Pizzagate
Fake Moon Landing
Vince Foster Murder
Gay Marriage
Earth First
Chelsea Clinton
Rigoberta Menchu
The Jan 6 Committee
Jane Fonda
Feminism
White Genocide
Age of Consent too high
Taylor Swift


B.See

(4,191 posts)
46. Immigrants and Trump's 'poisoning the blood' mantra will be the PRETEXT
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jan 3

under which Trump and his MAGAS will target AMERICAN (so-called sanctuary) cities - will target AMERICANS (deemed 'not lotyal) in those and other inner cities, for that "day of violence" he's already called for.

Those concentration camps they're planning won't just be for 'immigrants.'

AdamGG

(1,550 posts)
48. Trump's Reichstag fire
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 05:15 PM
Jan 3

Four weeks after Adolf Hitler took power, a fire was set at the German parliament (Reichstag). Hitler blamed it on the Communists and a decree was issued that suspended civil liberties.

That's basic history which most people know, but an interesting wager for the betting sites would be how long after taking office will Trump attempt to declare martial law. Like with Hitler, I think it could come pretty quickly. Unlike his first term, where he started out somewhat trying to maintain the pretense of being a normal president, everything indicates that he is going to be swinging for the fences of authoritarianism. Immigration seems like the most likely candidate now, but he'll use anything that he thinks will work.

I pray that something like this will backfire on him and he'll have to walk it back, but I don't have much faith in the country and the institutions that he will be staffing with sycophants.

Hassler

(3,900 posts)
50. I'm assuming the ML declaration will be in his
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jan 3

Inaugural speech. He'll have all eyes watching him.

neverforget

(9,479 posts)
52. We'll see what Americans are made of if this happens. Do we sit and take it while
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 08:04 PM
Jan 3

watching television or do we fight it? Do we get out in the streets and protest? Do we call for a national strike? We can't just sit and take it while MAGA wipes their ass with the Constitution.

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