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FightFight

(202 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:53 PM 22 hrs ago

FAFO - Trump's pro-Israel Cabinet Picks Upset Muslims Who Voted for Him

U.S. Muslim leaders who supported Republican Donald Trump to protest against the Biden administration's support for Israel's war on Gaza and attacks on Lebanon have been deeply disappointed by his cabinet picks, they tell Reuters.
"Trump won because of us and we're not happy with his secretary of state pick and others," said Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump.Muslim support for Trump helped him win Michigan and may have factored into other swing state wins, strategists believe.
Trump picked Republican senator Marco Rubio, a staunch supporter of Israel for Secretary of State.
Earlier this year, Rubio said he would not call, opens new for a ceasefire in Gaza, and that he believed Israel should destroy "every element" of Hamas. "These people are vicious animals," he added.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/

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THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF THIS TOPIC? NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE MUSLIMS EVER PUBLICLY BLAMED AND EXCORIATED NETANYAHU. BIDEN ISNT PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL ITS BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

ALSO JUST OVER 4 YEARS AGO TRUMP INSTITUTED A MUSLIM BAN IN THIS COUNTRY THAT BIDEN REMOVED,,,TALK....SERIOUSLY PEOPLE THIS IS HOW YOU VOTED

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FAFO - Trump's pro-Israel Cabinet Picks Upset Muslims Who Voted for Him (Original Post) FightFight 22 hrs ago OP
Congratulations Mr. Chowdhury, you got played like a fucking mark Blue_Tires 22 hrs ago #1
the dildo of consequences! Torrent63 21 hrs ago #21
That needs to be on a t-shirt! Dem2theMax 20 hrs ago #24
Brilliant political strategy, folks. We have a binary political system, not one where minority factions get to force... Hekate 22 hrs ago #2
someone's face has been eaten by a leopard DBoon 22 hrs ago #3
Leopards have been feasting for weeks. Nt spooky3 19 hrs ago #37
Are these fucking people serious? Hassin Bin Sober 22 hrs ago #4
You got played, Rabiul. You voted for the Muslim ban guy instead of the folks who lifted the ban. SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #5
Talk about FAFO, more white christians voted for dump than anyone. Eko 21 hrs ago #6
If they knowingly voted against their own interests to "show the Dems" ... Hekate 21 hrs ago #11
Surprise! nt Buns_of_Fire 21 hrs ago #7
I do find it interesting that we are blaming the heathen tanned people Eko 21 hrs ago #8
Are the "white Christians" that you name complaining about the results? Did they vote for Trump... Hekate 21 hrs ago #14
Yeah some of them are. Eko 21 hrs ago #16
I would also have to say that the white christians voted by a far larger margin that the brown heathens. Eko 21 hrs ago #17
Why do you call them heathens? wnylib 20 hrs ago #27
The poster displays a little ignorance there Hekate 1 hr ago #49
I've done posts about white voters MadameButterfly 19 hrs ago #36
When challenged, before the elections, they were aware of his Muslim ban and were willing to take the question everything 21 hrs ago #19
Well, you see, the racists, bigots and misogynists Pototan 19 hrs ago #35
Blame Game YD Democrat 18 hrs ago #40
Trump won Michigan by less than 100k votes. Could've been a big factor there Callie1979 13 min ago #51
Ain't it hard struggle4progress 21 hrs ago #9
Kina reminds me of "The Snake" by Oscar Brown Polybius 21 hrs ago #10
"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sakabatou 21 hrs ago #12
A multitude of stupidity. oasis 21 hrs ago #13
They got played by the GOP/Ruskies, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 21 hrs ago #15
Well, duh LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #18
Why upset? You got what you wanted. Trump in office. keithbvadu2 21 hrs ago #20
"But everyone says Democrats are responsible for everything bad -- "Genocide Joe/Killer Kamala" such cute nicknames -- betsuni 21 hrs ago #22
Enjoy the sociopath. Much of the American Muslim Community also voted for George W bush also. Just like labor voting JohnSJ 20 hrs ago #23
Well, this segment of Muslim voters MadameButterfly 19 hrs ago #39
They were told what was going to happen before the election. Ace Rothstein 20 hrs ago #25
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OrlandoDem2 20 hrs ago #26
Who didn't see that coming? LisaL 20 hrs ago #28
anyone who voted for that asshole and is crying/complaining about it... FUCK THEM! nt orleans 20 hrs ago #29
this++ it's not like we told them so... Justice matters. 17 hrs ago #42
The people who voted for trump will regret their vote LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #47
No one could have seen this coming. IronLionZion 20 hrs ago #30
"Hey Trump, we're voting for Democrats if you don't give us X.Y and Z" LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #31
Muslims who voted for trump are getting what they deserved LetMyPeopleVote 19 hrs ago #32
ANYONE who says "Trump won because of us" can go pound sand with ANY complaints RockRaven 19 hrs ago #33
My heart breaks. Pototan 19 hrs ago #34
We told you so. lees1975 19 hrs ago #38
You asked for it. You got it. usonian 18 hrs ago #41
They're about as dumb as the hispanic maga voters Beachnutt 15 hrs ago #43
The old policy of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" doesn't work no_hypocrisy 15 hrs ago #44
Why Trump's hardline position on U.S. policy in Gaza matters LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #45
None of them regret voting the way they did JI7 2 hrs ago #46
sucker. I have a bridge in Brooklyn that he should buy. ZonkerHarris 1 hr ago #48
It's not like they weren't warned. BlueTsunami2018 46 min ago #50
Why would anyone accept responsibility for this outcome? ThreeNoSeep 4 min ago #52

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
1. Congratulations Mr. Chowdhury, you got played like a fucking mark
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:01 PM
22 hrs ago

I regret to inform you that the dildo of consequences rarely if ever arrives with lube...

Dem2theMax

(10,405 posts)
24. That needs to be on a t-shirt!
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:28 PM
20 hrs ago

"The dildo of consequences rarely, if ever, arrives with Lube."



Maybe put one word in front of 'The.'

Maga,

Hekate

(95,281 posts)
2. Brilliant political strategy, folks. We have a binary political system, not one where minority factions get to force...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:03 PM
22 hrs ago

…the more powerful factions into uncomfortable compromises. The US is not a parliamentary system — and all the Greens (for instance) have ever been able to accomplish is Getting Republicans Elected Every November. Third parties and others who want to “show the Dems a thing or two” have cost this country dearly, starting with Al Gore, who was a great environmentalist.

FAFO.

SunSeeker

(54,049 posts)
5. You got played, Rabiul. You voted for the Muslim ban guy instead of the folks who lifted the ban.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:16 PM
21 hrs ago

The worst part of this is not only did you fuck your own stupid yourself over, but you fucked all of us.

Eko

(8,604 posts)
6. Talk about FAFO, more white christians voted for dump than anyone.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:17 PM
21 hrs ago

So hey all White Christians, you got what is coming to you. That's the way this works right? We get to pick a group that voted for dump and beat up on them all right?

Hekate

(95,281 posts)
11. If they knowingly voted against their own interests to "show the Dems" ...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:46 PM
21 hrs ago

…and then complain about the results, well yes, I think it is appropriate to smack said group around a little.

Eko

(8,604 posts)
8. I do find it interesting that we are blaming the heathen tanned people
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:40 PM
21 hrs ago

for dumps win when the far, far majority of the voters for him were the white Christians. Almost as if we have a big fucking blind spot to them doing bad and don't hold them responsible as a group, but them dang Palestinian Americans, they are the problem. Let me know when you get a clue.

Hekate

(95,281 posts)
14. Are the "white Christians" that you name complaining about the results? Did they vote for Trump...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:57 PM
21 hrs ago

…knowing it was against their own best interests, just to show the Dems that the Dems weren’t the boss of them?

No, they aren’t. They had their own really stupid reasons for voting for Trump, including cult-worship. And nobody on our side says the “white Christians” are not responsible for the gigantic clusterfck we will all have to endure.

The problem with the Palestinian American voters, as I said above, is that as far as anyone can tell, they voted for Trump to show the Dems that the Dems couldn’t tell them what to do. They KNEW Trump was a scorpion and they STILL voted for him. And now, they act surprised that the scorpion is hurting them.

The Palestinian Americans are a small group of people and did not bring about Trump’s victory all by themselves. But they sure did make a wretched miscalculation about who, ultimately, has their best interests at heart.

Eko

(8,604 posts)
17. I would also have to say that the white christians voted by a far larger margin that the brown heathens.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:04 PM
21 hrs ago

How many post have you done that call them out?

MadameButterfly

(1,944 posts)
36. I've done posts about white voters
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:43 AM
19 hrs ago

White men, white women. I'm pretty discouraged that but for people of color the Democratic Party would be nowhere.
That doesn't stop me from being mad as hell when the leader of a group who claims Trump would not have been elected without him
has the nerve to complain when Trump does what he told us he would do.

Maybe if this guy had pulled his head out of the sand we all wouldn't be living this global nightmare.

question everything

(49,079 posts)
19. When challenged, before the elections, they were aware of his Muslim ban and were willing to take the
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:05 PM
21 hrs ago

consequences so now live with these consequences.

Pototan

(2,119 posts)
35. Well, you see, the racists, bigots and misogynists
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:37 AM
19 hrs ago

are expected to vote for Trump. He's one of them.

The victims of Trump and his supporters' hate aren't supposed to join them.

Since I face no discrimination because of my gender, sexual preference or race, I take the chance of repercussions only because of my political beliefs. As a result, I can only put myself in jeopardy defending people who fuck themselves.

That's the point.

YD Democrat

(20 posts)
40. Blame Game
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 01:14 AM
18 hrs ago

I definitely place a lot of blame on the Muslim population In MI & WI for Harris' defeat. They live in a swing state, FFS.

For sure, I revile the "Christian evangelicals" for putting Trump in office.

So - are you saying we should solely blame extremist white Christianity for his win? I think not. Heathen tanned people may not be solely to blame for this outcome but they sure as hell stood out as a group - who used to vote for policies aligned with their wishes. Or - what we Democrats imagined their vision of our country might be, we should have been allies. These communities stabbed Democrats in the back, imo

My only conclusion is - immigrants despise other immigrants. It was a major issue in this election. Our legal immigrants voted against their own. Since I'm not an immigrant, perhaps I should listen to the ones who voted.

Callie1979

(273 posts)
51. Trump won Michigan by less than 100k votes. Could've been a big factor there
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 08:01 PM
13 min ago

With higher black & hispanic votes elsewhere it didnt help the cause either. But the biggest factor overall were Dem voters who chose to skip it

sakabatou

(43,250 posts)
12. "I never thought leopards would eat MY face,"
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:53 PM
21 hrs ago

sob Muslim leaders who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

betsuni

(27,307 posts)
22. "But everyone says Democrats are responsible for everything bad -- "Genocide Joe/Killer Kamala" such cute nicknames --
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:07 PM
21 hrs ago

why didn't Democrats tell us about this? OMG I'm never voting for a Democrat again!"

This is why the simplistic fantasy solution that Democrats just talk and give stern speeches to people will change anything is ridiculous. Talk is cheap.

JohnSJ

(96,810 posts)
23. Enjoy the sociopath. Much of the American Muslim Community also voted for George W bush also. Just like labor voting
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:25 PM
20 hrs ago

for reagan, they never seem to learn that repeating the same action previously have consequences.

Harris made it clear what she would do. Ceasefire, release hostages, rebuild Gaza, and back to the negotiating table for a two-state solution.

They have effectively elected someone who will insure they will never be a two-state solution.

Whatever happens, I simply don't care anymore.


MadameButterfly

(1,944 posts)
39. Well, this segment of Muslim voters
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 01:05 AM
19 hrs ago

screwed over a lot of Muslims who voted for Harris along with the rest of us. And no one in Israel or Gaza had a say here.
So I still care. Just not about the feelings of this particular group. Let them hurt at least as bad as we do.

Ace Rothstein

(3,301 posts)
25. They were told what was going to happen before the election.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:34 PM
20 hrs ago

These are the dumbest voters around.

OrlandoDem2

(2,325 posts)
26. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:36 PM
20 hrs ago

This is hilarious! They got fooled!! They were warned!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Justice matters.

(7,585 posts)
42. this++ it's not like we told them so...
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:47 AM
17 hrs ago

but they went ahead and chose to act like complete idiots (because they are?).

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,514 posts)
47. The people who voted for trump will regret their vote
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 06:15 PM
1 hr ago


With trump back in power, Bibi will be free to do what he wants in Gaza


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/podcasts/2024-11-06/ty-article-podcast/netanyahu-gambled-on-a-trump-presidency-will-it-pay-off/00000193-01b9-dc77-adb3-9bbbf9ee0000

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's "gamble" on extending the war in Gaza in anticipation of Donald Trump winning the U.S. election seems to have paid off, according to Haaretz senior military analyst Amos Harel.

In conversation with Haaretz Podcast host Allison Kaplan Sommer, Harel said that Netanyahu "kept promising total victory, what he actually had was sort of a Forever War. It was not forever, but he was waiting for November, and for January 20 and for his friend Trump to be back in the White House."

What is the Israeli premier hoping to get out of his bet? Harel believes that in renewing the Bibi-Trump bromance, Netanyahu believes he can win U.S. support for measures that will stop his criminal trial - Trump after all, will certainly sympathize - and move ahead with the judicial coup that will damage Israeli democracy.

In the security and military arena, the Israeli leader aspires to achieve "more aggressive goals in the region, whether it's striking Iran or persuading the Americans to strike Iran, or pushing forward against the Palestinians and against Hezbollah and Lebanon."

LeftInTX

(30,580 posts)
31. "Hey Trump, we're voting for Democrats if you don't give us X.Y and Z"
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:13 AM
20 hrs ago

Muslims vote for Democrats

After the next time:
"Hey Democrats we're voting for Republicans if you don't give us X, Y and Z"


On and on it goes

Muslims to each other: " Look how powerful we are! We influence elections."

RockRaven

(16,528 posts)
33. ANYONE who says "Trump won because of us" can go pound sand with ANY complaints
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:20 AM
19 hrs ago

they EVER have about ANYTHING that happens to them or their pet interests. I don't care, fuck you, you did this to yourselves and everyone else, you deserve to be butthurt, I wish you were personally perpetually experiencing the full brunt of whatever worst travesty he ever generates.

Beachnutt

(8,178 posts)
43. They're about as dumb as the hispanic maga voters
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 04:31 AM
15 hrs ago

whose families are about to be split up.
And the Fire fighters of 911 who just lost government help for medical needs due to 911.
Trusk had it stripped out of the CR just passed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,514 posts)
45. Why Trump's hardline position on U.S. policy in Gaza matters
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 06:04 PM
2 hrs ago

Donald Trump has a message for voters who disapprove of President Joe Biden’s Israel/Gaza policy from the left: The Republican intends to be vastly worse.





https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-hardline-position-us-policy-gaza-matters-rcna150391

In theory, Donald Trump might recognize the electoral opportunity and try to appeal to those who disapprove on the incumbent president’s Israel/Gaza policy from the left. In practice, the former president has an unsubtle message for Biden’s critics: If given the chance, the Republican intends to be vastly worse.

The Biden White House, for example, acknowledged this week that it is, as the Associated Press reported, “weighing measures to help Palestinians living in the United States who want to bring family from the war-torn region.”

Soon after, as Reuters reported, the presumptive GOP nominee shared his thoughts on the subject at a campaign rally.

Your towns and villages will now be accepting people from Gaza and various other places,” Trump said, eliciting boos from the crowd. “Under no circumstances shall we bring thousands of refugees.” Last week, Trump described the pro-Palestinian protests as driven by “tremendous hate” while asserting that the violence at a 2017 white nationalist rally with some Trump supporters in Charlottesville, Virginia, when he was president was small by comparison.


Note, at one of his campaign events yesterday, Trump appeared to goad his followers in Wisconsin into booing Palestinian refugees.


At the same event, the former president also vowed to restore and expand the Muslim ban he imposed during his first term......

The former president also endorsed ongoing Israeli military operations, saying, “We have to let Israel complete their war on terror. It’s a horrible thing, but they have to do it.” Trump added that Israel must “clean out the cancer.”

Let’s also not forget a New York Times report from March that said top members of Trump’s team want to expel Palestinians from Gaza.

It’s as if the Republican is going out of his way to alienate voters who, given their frustrations with Biden’s policy, might be inclined to give Trump a second look.

TFG will bring back the Muslim ban, give Bibi free reign to bomb and destroy Gaza and expel Palestinians from Gaza so that Jared can build his resorts.

JI7

(90,877 posts)
46. None of them regret voting the way they did
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 06:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Being anti lgbt was more important to them than Gaza.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,070 posts)
50. It's not like they weren't warned.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 07:27 PM
46 min ago

But some people just have to put their hands in the flames before they believe you.

I don’t feel bad for them at all, they fucked the whole world.

ThreeNoSeep

(179 posts)
52. Why would anyone accept responsibility for this outcome?
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 08:09 PM
4 min ago

It's bizarre that a Muslim investor is taking that responsibility on for the Muslim community. It serves no purpose except to separate us once again. Perhaps it is more stupidity on his part, or perhaps angering non-Muslims to blame this small voting block is the goal.

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