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Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said in a Fox News interview that thrice married, twice divorce, adjudicated rapist and serial liar Donald Trump takes his Christian faith seriously.
Ive had talks with him before in the past where hes pretty blunt about, you know, he cant say that he was raised as a, as a very zealous Christian, but he takes his Christian faith seriously, Dolan told host Maria Bartiromo on Fox News Sunday Morning Futures in a clip highlighted by The Hill.
Dolan also claimed divine intervention saved Trump from assassination this summer.
I think of Ronald Reagan and John Paul II, Dolan said. Both survived assassination attempts very close to one another, and when the two of them met for the first time, Ronald Reagan said to Pope Saint John Paul II, Mother Teresa told me that she thinks the Lord spared me, because the Lord has somethin special in mind for me.
https://themindshield.com/cardinal-says-donald-trump-takes-his-christian-faith-seriously/
tanyev
(44,727 posts)I'm sure he does take that seriously, but that's not Christianity.
erronis
(17,156 posts)Trueblue1968
(18,256 posts)sinkingfeeling
(53,242 posts)Ocelot II
(121,460 posts)why has he spent most of his life violating the Ten Commandments, committing the Seven Deadly Sins (pride, anger, gluttony, sloth, lust, envy and greed), and completely ignoring that part in Matthew 25 where Jesus directs us to welcome the stranger, feed the hungry, heal the sick, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, all that woke stuff? Jesus also says you'll go to Hell if you don't do those things. But at least Trump and Cardinal Dolan can keep each other company there.
Hekate
(95,274 posts)La Coliniere
(1,065 posts)erronis
(17,156 posts)Boy goes to confession and tells the priest he has been with a girl of loose morals.
"That's a grievous sin," the priest says. "Tell me: Was it Mary O'Hara?"
"No, Father."
"Was it Kate Dannaher?"
"No, Father."
"Was it Kathleen McGonigle?"
"No, Father. I don't want to say who it was."
Later, as the boy leaves the church, he sees a friend, who asks him, "How'd it go?"
He answers, "Well, I got ten Hail Marys, five Our Fathers... and three great leads."
mercuryblues
(15,256 posts)False witness against thy neighbor, stealing, murder. All in a day's work for trump.
wnylib
(24,749 posts)Well said.
get the red out
(13,636 posts)Trump takes his religion as seriously as the all the big names in the business, I'm sure!
marble falls
(62,516 posts)RockRaven
(16,526 posts)yorkster
(2,514 posts)Sanctimonious Maximus.
GoCubsGo
(33,152 posts)That's the same POS who was yukking it up with The Felon Rapist at that charity dinner back in September. Sickening. So glad I left that cult decades ago.
newdeal2
(1,134 posts)Looks like the church is also sucking up to him.
julmur
(149 posts)And they wonder why membership is sinking at Catholic Churches, the hypocrisy is unbelievable
snowybirdie
(5,684 posts)The Holy Cardinal need to go to Confession to be forgiven for breaking the 8th Commandment.
JanMichael
(25,311 posts)Kid Berwyn
(18,335 posts)Like the time he helped Saudi Arabia murder and butcher a journalist?
Like the time he let Putin's stooges run free over the nation and planet?
Like the time he asked Ukraine to help him defame Joe Biden and Hunter Biden?
Like the time he publicly demonized good people like Dr. Fauci?
Like the time he let millions die from COVID?
Gee. I don't really see Trump's Christian Faith.
It will be interesting to learn what the special thing the good Lord has planned for him is.
Kid Berwyn
(18,335 posts)After the disaster wrecked the island, pee-resident Trump abandoned millions of US citizens to fend for themselves. Thousands died. Thats serious.
Cha
(305,848 posts)On Edit.. Unless the cardinal is addressing Anti Christ's faith in Putin .
Brainstormy
(2,443 posts)too funny!
SocialDemocrat61
(3,064 posts)and a racist. No wonder he likes Trump.
sop
(11,568 posts)"The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) strongly condemn Pope Benedicts appointment of Archbishop Timothy Dolan to Cardinal of the Archdiocese of New York. Dolans mishandling of child sexual abuse cases is well-documented, from failing to report direct admissions by offending priests to actively lobbying against reforming statutes of limitations on child sexual abuse cases in Wisconsin. The archbishops track record is consistent with the Catholic Churchs record of covering up child sex abuse allegations."
https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/groups-condemn-appointment-archbishop-dolan-cardinal-new-york
Dolan takes his christian faith seriously, too.
TlalocW
(15,632 posts)Who are part of an international criminal organization of child molesters when it comes to who is moral or not.
multigraincracker
(34,287 posts)Kind of the poster boy for them.
Aristus
(68,607 posts)A guy who thinks Two Corinthians is a thing, and who holds a Bible upside-down for a photo op?
I left off the part where he doesn't follow any of Christ's teachings, because it's not like that is unusual in the Christianist community.
delisen
(6,574 posts)Rich men wallowing together ro deny the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posrerity
Prairie Gates
(3,568 posts)On the same day that Trump upbraids Biden for commuting federal death sentences, to boot! Somebody remind Dolan that the death penalty is as odious to Catholic doctrine as is abortion. Unbelievable.
dalton99a
(84,870 posts)kysrsoze
(6,173 posts)returnee
(333 posts)Good luck in the afterlife.
The Divine Comedy revisited.
edhopper
(35,038 posts)does not take child rape seriously.
Initech
(102,502 posts)Traildogbob
(10,185 posts)When the Meagan Kelly White as snow Jesus blows out his birthday candles he should make a wish.
Like Wish Daddy would wake the hell up and stand up to those that trash his image and rules.
Maybe protect a kid or two from guns here and there. All the churches in the billionaires fraternity should be treated as religious extremest cults and lose tax exemption.
Gonna be lots of red hats at a gate hoping for mansions, golden streets and virgins, but the guy behind that gate will be in their favorite color, all red, with a big shit eating grin.
Time Jesus starts turning over some tables and breaking shit.
Docreed2003
(17,879 posts)3auld6phart
(1,304 posts)Maure. Stinks all the way up here.
Ritabert
(756 posts)...myself included.
Deep State Witch
(11,347 posts)They both "like them young." Only Dolan likes young men, and Trump likes young women.
keithbvadu2
(40,487 posts)Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion.
Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn
krawhitham
(4,902 posts)bluesbassman
(19,900 posts)Theres one key point in taking ones Christian faith very seriously: Contrition. The Sick Fuck never admits fault, is literally on record saying he has never asked God for forgiveness. He thinks of himself before any others, he possesses no empathy. And upon THAT foundation is a man who has spent his lifetime engaged in all seven deadly sins. This is a man that the good Cardinal would have us believe takes his Christianity very seriously? You need to turn in your robe fool.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(280 posts)*pronounced Acura Mazda, just like the cars!
Danmel
(5,259 posts)PlanetBev
(4,229 posts)I worked in a synagogue for 12 years. Im not religious, I just needed a job. There was no shortage of hypocrisy and politics there, but at least nobody told me how to think.
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Plus, I avoid the last minute 🎄 rush.
Danmel
(5,259 posts)Perfect for lazy people like me
Wounded Bear
(60,831 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,365 posts)... on taking one's Christian faith seriously, I'd put Crooked Donald on the other side of Jimmy Carter. No bonus points for identifying the real Christian!
Autumn
(46,655 posts)Retrograde
(10,728 posts)More than one diocese under his jurisdiction is facing bankruptcy and losing parishioners by the busload because monies are going to pay lawyers fighting lawsuits relating to church abuses. But hobnobbing with the gliterati is probably more fun than dealing with the day-to-day issues of running a large part of the Catholic Church.
Bleacher Creature
(11,461 posts)I would get it if a person just said that they support him because he does what they want and hates all the same people as them, but to say things that are comically false is just pathetic.
-misanthroptimist
(1,226 posts)My takeaway is that Cardinal Dolan doesn't believe in hell. Either that or he believes he can lie with impunity due to his office.
Paladin
(28,971 posts)Vinca
(51,224 posts)Blue Owl
(54,910 posts)no_hypocrisy
(49,182 posts)Howd that work out?
claudette
(4,661 posts)the violent orange felon cant wait to execute those on death row
GreenWave
(9,440 posts)LAS14
(14,778 posts)delisen
(6,574 posts)The shepherd might consider giving up the fancy title, the meet and greets with the rich, famous, and powerful and instead meet the women in their kitchens and their workplaces, to listen and learn. He might reflect upon the life of Jesus and his relationship with women.
If Nolan travels this path, he will be spending much time in silence but when he speaks his message will be powerful.
CanonRay
(14,927 posts)rurallib
(63,286 posts)after life nor any after life punishment.
these two run basically the same con game
surfered
(3,721 posts)Mossfern
(3,247 posts)and glad I'm Jewish too.
Abolishinist
(2,070 posts)Because Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy represent the pinnacles of modern liberal thought!
WarGamer
(15,739 posts)kskiska
(27,115 posts)was Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegiate Church. He was known for his book "The Power of Positive Thinking," which appealed to his wealthy parishioners. He disapproved of Adlai Stevenson because he had been divorced.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,489 posts)sakabatou
(43,249 posts)Rebl2
(14,940 posts)were catholic, I would have to leave the church. This cardinal must be deaf and blind to all of the things trump has done his whole adult life. What a jerk.
Solly Mack
(93,206 posts)valleyrogue
(1,191 posts)Blue_Tires
(56,725 posts)How many newly minted atheists did that interview just create?
Maeve
(43,034 posts)I gave up on the church because ..many reasons..but this bozo is clueless and worshipping something other than Jesus
milestogo
(18,247 posts)walkingman
(8,544 posts)Wiz Imp
(2,411 posts)For this guy to have risen to one of the highest positions in the church and endorse a man who stands for everything that is the complete opposite of the teachings of Jesus Christ, shows that the teachings of Jesus mean noothing to the church. If the Catholic church had any integrity, this guy would have been kicked out long ago. Of course we already knew they had no integrity over their handling of the pedophile priests.
elleng
(136,819 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(28,654 posts)They are all about the status quo. The fact that such a person could make this statement, reconfirms my views of the state of this religion.
8 years of Jesuit education (great teachers) factors in this opinion.
Mysterian
(5,207 posts)Religion is a bane upon humanity.
Jilly_in_VA
(11,102 posts)Fat Timmy is suffering from dementia.
Dr. Shepper
(3,081 posts)Never trust the RCC ever again. Bunch o liars.
Bettie
(17,388 posts)funniest and saddest thing I've heard today.
Oh...it's Dolan, who is a joke himself.
Mz Pip
(27,934 posts)reveals what Dolan really is, and its not good.
Meowmee
(6,110 posts)I have a few bridges to sell you 😀
lees1975
(6,100 posts)But then, I have to wonder how many Catholic priests take theirs seriously. Or for how many of them it's just a scam. And the same can be said for conservative, Evangelical pastors.
Trump has openly denied the core principle of a Christian conversion experience, which is the acknowledgement of his own sin and the need for God's forgiveness. He has, on multiple occasions, in front of prominent religious leaders, on camera, stated that he has done nothing that requires God's forgiveness. In virtually every branch of Christianity, that's an open denial of the Doctrine of Salvation, and that testimony is Trump telling the world he is not Christian.
Trump has defined his own belief in God, contrary to any Christian revelation spoke n by Jesus Christ, who defined Christianity for the world. Submission to God is a key component of the Christian faith, and that is something Trump cannot and will not do. And any Catholic priest who knows his doctrine and is being faithful to the Church and to Christ would not be able to acknowledge this about Trump and remain credible.
LudwigPastorius
(11,065 posts)Oh, horseshit, Archie.
What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" are you unclear on?
Captain Zero
(7,576 posts)I say we deport Opus Dei.
spanone
(137,662 posts)Sounds like Dolan is a magat....eff him.