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douglas9

(4,486 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:29 PM 19 hrs ago

Cardinal says Donald Trump "takes his Christian faith seriously

Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said in a Fox News interview that thrice married, twice divorce, adjudicated rapist and serial liar Donald Trump “takes his Christian faith seriously.”

“I’ve had talks with him before in the past where he’s pretty blunt about, you know, he can’t say that he was raised as a, as a very zealous Christian, but he takes his Christian faith seriously,” Dolan told host Maria Bartiromo on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures” in a clip highlighted by The Hill.

Dolan also claimed divine intervention saved Trump from assassination this summer.

“I think of Ronald Reagan and John Paul II,” Dolan said. “Both survived assassination attempts very close to one another, and when the two of them met for the first time, Ronald Reagan said to Pope Saint John Paul II, ‘Mother Teresa told me that she thinks the Lord spared me, because the Lord has somethin’ special in mind for me.’”

https://themindshield.com/cardinal-says-donald-trump-takes-his-christian-faith-seriously/

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Cardinal says Donald Trump "takes his Christian faith seriously (Original Post) douglas9 19 hrs ago OP
You mean his faith that God has ordained him to rule over the entire world? tanyev 19 hrs ago #1
He doesn't even believe that. Those are words that came tumbling out of his upper orifice. erronis 16 hrs ago #50
Trump is not a Christian. He has not accepted Jesus as his Savior And has not sought forgiveness 4 his sins. Trueblue1968 13 hrs ago #75
OMG sinkingfeeling 19 hrs ago #2
If he takes his Christian faith so seriously, Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #3
That has long been my thought Hekate 18 hrs ago #30
You said it all. My thoughts exactly. La Coliniere 18 hrs ago #39
Because the xian "faith" and "principles" give him a list of things to violate. erronis 16 hrs ago #52
Toss in some adultery and mercuryblues 15 hrs ago #62
+100,000 wnylib 15 hrs ago #64
Dolan is right get the red out 19 hrs ago #4
As seriously as some clergy members of various faiths take altar boys? marble falls 19 hrs ago #5
When you lie as much as Dolan does, what is one more? Easy peasy. RockRaven 19 hrs ago #6
I knew it would be Dolan.. yorkster 19 hrs ago #7
Was about to post the same thing. GoCubsGo 18 hrs ago #38
So how does that explain JFK, RFK, Lincoln, MLK, Gandhi etc. newdeal2 19 hrs ago #8
Catholic julmur 19 hrs ago #9
Looks like snowybirdie 19 hrs ago #10
A hahahahahaha. Proves he is 100% full of shit. JanMichael 19 hrs ago #11
Like the time he put the kids in cages? Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #12
Like the time a hurricane hit Puerto Rico? Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #61
Oh Puleeze... & I see he Doesn't EITHER Cha 19 hrs ago #13
Whaaaaaaaaa! Brainstormy 19 hrs ago #14
Dolan is an idiot SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #15
'Groups Condemn Appointment of Archbishop Dolan to Cardinal of New York' sop 19 hrs ago #16
I don't listen to people TlalocW 19 hrs ago #17
He does have The Seven deadly Sins covered. multigraincracker 19 hrs ago #18
I'm sorry...is this the opening joke in a stand-up act? Aristus 19 hrs ago #19
Dolan denies life saving medical care to women and wallows with Trump delisen 19 hrs ago #20
Dolan is a full on clown Prairie Gates 19 hrs ago #21
What a goddamn asshole dalton99a 19 hrs ago #22
Did Dolan earn his 30 pieces of silver? What a fucking asshole. kysrsoze 19 hrs ago #23
God is watching,Timmy. returnee 17 hrs ago #48
But Dolan edhopper 19 hrs ago #24
Yeah, sorry, get out of jail free cards don't work in real life. Initech 18 hrs ago #25
Maybe tomorrow Traildogbob 18 hrs ago #26
What a crock of absolute horse shit Docreed2003 18 hrs ago #27
Porcine 3auld6phart 18 hrs ago #28
And they wonder why Catholics left the Church Ritabert 18 hrs ago #29
One PeDo To Another Deep State Witch 18 hrs ago #31
Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion. keithbvadu2 18 hrs ago #32
Dolan was bought and paid for a long time ago krawhitham 18 hrs ago #33
He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means. bluesbassman 18 hrs ago #34
Ahura Mazda is LOL.* RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 18 hrs ago #35
I'm so glad I'm Jewish Danmel 18 hrs ago #36
I was just saying that to my sister, Dammel PlanetBev 17 hrs ago #47
Stick a menorah in the window and you're done Danmel 17 hrs ago #49
Probably said it with a straight face, too... Wounded Bear 18 hrs ago #37
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson 17 hrs ago #40
Of course he does, his religion is a complete fraud too. Autumn 17 hrs ago #41
Dolan's stil mad that he didn't get to be pope Retrograde 17 hrs ago #42
JFC, why can't these people at least be honest about why they support him. Bleacher Creature 17 hrs ago #43
I find that interesting -misanthroptimist 17 hrs ago #44
Bullshit. Oh such bullshit. (nt) Paladin 17 hrs ago #45
JFC - somebody's expecting a fat envelope this year. Vinca 17 hrs ago #46
He's being paid by the church to say that Blue Owl 16 hrs ago #51
So did Elmer Gantry. no_hypocrisy 16 hrs ago #53
Yeah. That's why claudette 16 hrs ago #54
Does he bury his ex wife on sacred ground or on tax dodging golf courses? GreenWave 16 hrs ago #55
And the surprises just keep happening. nt LAS14 16 hrs ago #56
Dolan wants to humanize one man while dehumanizing all women. delisen 16 hrs ago #57
Welp, he probably takes it as seriously as Cardinal Dolan CanonRay 15 hrs ago #58
Dolan and trump share a belief - there is no gawd and there is no rurallib 15 hrs ago #59
I'm calling bulls**t! surfered 15 hrs ago #60
This makes me sick .... Mossfern 15 hrs ago #63
Of course! Abolishinist 6 hrs ago #87
because raw dogging a p0rn star is in the bible... right? WarGamer 15 hrs ago #65
The church he and his family attended kskiska 15 hrs ago #66
This idiot has been hitting the wine too hard LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #67
Right, the living embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins "takes Christian faith seriously" sakabatou 14 hrs ago #68
If I Rebl2 14 hrs ago #69
Fart noises Solly Mack 14 hrs ago #70
Must be one of the Arizona cardinals instead. n/t valleyrogue 14 hrs ago #71
This is why decreasing numbers of people take the church seriously Blue_Tires 13 hrs ago #72
If i wasn't already a recovering Catholic, this would do it Maeve 13 hrs ago #73
Just like all those pedo priests. milestogo 13 hrs ago #74
An example of why people are so turned off by religion these days - it is anything but righteous. walkingman 13 hrs ago #76
If you needed any more proof that the Catholic Church is no longer a serious Christian entity, there you have it. Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #77
NOT A CHANCE. elleng 12 hrs ago #78
IMHO. Cardinals and Bishops in the RCC are of the Republican class of this organization. OAITW r.2.0 12 hrs ago #79
LMAO Mysterian 12 hrs ago #80
Methinks Jilly_in_VA 12 hrs ago #81
Just another reason why I could Dr. Shepper 12 hrs ago #82
That is simultaneously the Bettie 7 hrs ago #83
The documentary Mea Maxima Culpa Mz Pip 7 hrs ago #84
If you believe this Meowmee 7 hrs ago #85
He would not be on a revenge crusade if he took his Christian faith seriously. lees1975 6 hrs ago #86
"Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that Donald Trump 'takes his Christian faith seriously'." LudwigPastorius 5 hrs ago #88
Dolan is quite obviously OPUS DEI Captain Zero 2 hrs ago #89
What a load of crap. spanone 20 min ago #90

tanyev

(44,727 posts)
1. You mean his faith that God has ordained him to rule over the entire world?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
19 hrs ago

I'm sure he does take that seriously, but that's not Christianity.

erronis

(17,156 posts)
50. He doesn't even believe that. Those are words that came tumbling out of his upper orifice.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:23 PM
16 hrs ago

Trueblue1968

(18,256 posts)
75. Trump is not a Christian. He has not accepted Jesus as his Savior And has not sought forgiveness 4 his sins.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:47 PM
13 hrs ago

Ocelot II

(121,460 posts)
3. If he takes his Christian faith so seriously,
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:35 PM
19 hrs ago

why has he spent most of his life violating the Ten Commandments, committing the Seven Deadly Sins (pride, anger, gluttony, sloth, lust, envy and greed), and completely ignoring that part in Matthew 25 where Jesus directs us to welcome the stranger, feed the hungry, heal the sick, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, all that woke stuff? Jesus also says you'll go to Hell if you don't do those things. But at least Trump and Cardinal Dolan can keep each other company there.

erronis

(17,156 posts)
52. Because the xian "faith" and "principles" give him a list of things to violate.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:27 PM
16 hrs ago

Boy goes to confession and tells the priest he has been with a girl of loose morals.
"That's a grievous sin," the priest says. "Tell me: Was it Mary O'Hara?"

"No, Father."

"Was it Kate Dannaher?"

"No, Father."

"Was it Kathleen McGonigle?"

"No, Father. I don't want to say who it was."

Later, as the boy leaves the church, he sees a friend, who asks him, "How'd it go?"

He answers, "Well, I got ten Hail Marys, five Our Fathers... and three great leads."

mercuryblues

(15,256 posts)
62. Toss in some adultery and
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:13 PM
15 hrs ago

False witness against thy neighbor, stealing, murder. All in a day's work for trump.

get the red out

(13,636 posts)
4. Dolan is right
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:36 PM
19 hrs ago

Trump takes his religion as seriously as the all the big names in the business, I'm sure!

GoCubsGo

(33,152 posts)
38. Was about to post the same thing.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:57 PM
18 hrs ago

That's the same POS who was yukking it up with The Felon Rapist at that charity dinner back in September. Sickening. So glad I left that cult decades ago.

newdeal2

(1,134 posts)
8. So how does that explain JFK, RFK, Lincoln, MLK, Gandhi etc.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
19 hrs ago

Looks like the church is also sucking up to him.

julmur

(149 posts)
9. Catholic
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
19 hrs ago

And they wonder why membership is sinking at Catholic Churches, the hypocrisy is unbelievable

snowybirdie

(5,684 posts)
10. Looks like
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:42 PM
19 hrs ago

The Holy Cardinal need to go to Confession to be forgiven for breaking the 8th Commandment.

Kid Berwyn

(18,335 posts)
12. Like the time he put the kids in cages?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:44 PM
19 hrs ago

Like the time he helped Saudi Arabia murder and butcher a journalist?

Like the time he let Putin's stooges run free over the nation and planet?

Like the time he asked Ukraine to help him defame Joe Biden and Hunter Biden?

Like the time he publicly demonized good people like Dr. Fauci?

Like the time he let millions die from COVID?

Gee. I don't really see Trump's Christian Faith.

It will be interesting to learn what the special thing the good Lord has planned for him is.

Kid Berwyn

(18,335 posts)
61. Like the time a hurricane hit Puerto Rico?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:11 PM
15 hrs ago

After the disaster wrecked the island, pee-resident Trump abandoned millions of US citizens to fend for themselves. Thousands died. That’s serious.

Cha

(305,848 posts)
13. Oh Puleeze... & I see he Doesn't EITHER
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:44 PM
19 hrs ago
Assholes.

On Edit.. Unless the cardinal is addressing Anti Christ's faith in Putin .

sop

(11,568 posts)
16. 'Groups Condemn Appointment of Archbishop Dolan to Cardinal of New York'
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:47 PM
19 hrs ago

"The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) strongly condemn Pope Benedict’s appointment of Archbishop Timothy Dolan to Cardinal of the Archdiocese of New York. Dolan’s mishandling of child sexual abuse cases is well-documented, from failing to report direct admissions by offending priests to actively lobbying against reforming statutes of limitations on child sexual abuse cases in Wisconsin. The archbishop’s track record is consistent with the Catholic Church’s record of covering up child sex abuse allegations."

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/groups-condemn-appointment-archbishop-dolan-cardinal-new-york

Dolan takes his christian faith seriously, too.

TlalocW

(15,632 posts)
17. I don't listen to people
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:49 PM
19 hrs ago

Who are part of an international criminal organization of child molesters when it comes to who is moral or not.

Aristus

(68,607 posts)
19. I'm sorry...is this the opening joke in a stand-up act?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:50 PM
19 hrs ago

A guy who thinks Two Corinthians is a thing, and who holds a Bible upside-down for a photo op?

I left off the part where he doesn't follow any of Christ's teachings, because it's not like that is unusual in the Christianist community.

delisen

(6,574 posts)
20. Dolan denies life saving medical care to women and wallows with Trump
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
19 hrs ago

Rich men wallowing together ro deny the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posrerity

Prairie Gates

(3,568 posts)
21. Dolan is a full on clown
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
19 hrs ago

On the same day that Trump upbraids Biden for commuting federal death sentences, to boot! Somebody remind Dolan that the death penalty is as odious to Catholic doctrine as is abortion. Unbelievable.

Traildogbob

(10,185 posts)
26. Maybe tomorrow
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:02 PM
18 hrs ago

When the Meagan Kelly White as snow Jesus blows out his birthday candles he should make a wish.
Like Wish Daddy would wake the hell up and stand up to those that trash his image and rules.
Maybe protect a kid or two from guns here and there. All the churches in the billionaires fraternity should be treated as religious extremest cults and lose tax exemption.
Gonna be lots of red hats at a gate hoping for mansions, golden streets and virgins, but the guy behind that gate will be in their favorite color, all red, with a big shit eating grin.
Time Jesus starts turning over some tables and breaking shit.

Deep State Witch

(11,347 posts)
31. One PeDo To Another
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:11 PM
18 hrs ago

They both "like them young." Only Dolan likes young men, and Trump likes young women.

keithbvadu2

(40,487 posts)
32. Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:13 PM
18 hrs ago

Donald J. Trump; the republicans' Messiah who ridicules Holy Communion.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

bluesbassman

(19,900 posts)
34. He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:21 PM
18 hrs ago

There’s one key point in “taking one’s Christian faith very seriously”: Contrition. The Sick Fuck never admits fault, is literally on record saying he has never asked God for forgiveness. He thinks of himself before any others, he possesses no empathy. And upon THAT foundation is a man who has spent his lifetime engaged in all seven deadly sins. This is a man that the good Cardinal would have us believe “takes his Christianity very seriously”? You need to turn in your robe fool.

PlanetBev

(4,229 posts)
47. I was just saying that to my sister, Dammel
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:36 PM
17 hrs ago

I worked in a synagogue for 12 years. I’m not religious, I just needed a job. There was no shortage of hypocrisy and politics there, but at least nobody told me how to think.
.
Plus, I avoid the last minute 🎄 rush.

Mike Nelson

(10,365 posts)
40. Ha-ha!
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:00 PM
17 hrs ago

... on taking one's Christian faith seriously, I'd put Crooked Donald on the other side of Jimmy Carter. No bonus points for identifying the real Christian!

Retrograde

(10,728 posts)
42. Dolan's stil mad that he didn't get to be pope
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:06 PM
17 hrs ago

More than one diocese under his jurisdiction is facing bankruptcy and losing parishioners by the busload because monies are going to pay lawyers fighting lawsuits relating to church abuses. But hobnobbing with the gliterati is probably more fun than dealing with the day-to-day issues of running a large part of the Catholic Church.

Bleacher Creature

(11,461 posts)
43. JFC, why can't these people at least be honest about why they support him.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:07 PM
17 hrs ago

I would get it if a person just said that they support him because he does what they want and hates all the same people as them, but to say things that are comically false is just pathetic.

-misanthroptimist

(1,226 posts)
44. I find that interesting
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:09 PM
17 hrs ago

My takeaway is that Cardinal Dolan doesn't believe in hell. Either that or he believes he can lie with impunity due to his office.

delisen

(6,574 posts)
57. Dolan wants to humanize one man while dehumanizing all women.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:56 PM
16 hrs ago

The shepherd might consider giving up the fancy title, the meet and greets with the rich, famous, and powerful and instead meet the women in their kitchens and their workplaces, to listen and learn. He might reflect upon the life of Jesus and his relationship with women.
If Nolan travels this path, he will be spending much time in silence but when he speaks his message will be powerful.

rurallib

(63,286 posts)
59. Dolan and trump share a belief - there is no gawd and there is no
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:07 PM
15 hrs ago

after life nor any after life punishment.

these two run basically the same con game

Abolishinist

(2,070 posts)
87. Of course!
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 01:41 AM
6 hrs ago

Because Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy represent the pinnacles of modern liberal thought!

kskiska

(27,115 posts)
66. The church he and his family attended
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:47 PM
15 hrs ago

was Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegiate Church. He was known for his book "The Power of Positive Thinking," which appealed to his wealthy parishioners. He disapproved of Adlai Stevenson because he had been divorced.

sakabatou

(43,249 posts)
68. Right, the living embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins "takes Christian faith seriously"
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 05:18 PM
14 hrs ago

Rebl2

(14,940 posts)
69. If I
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 05:23 PM
14 hrs ago

were catholic, I would have to leave the church. This cardinal must be deaf and blind to all of the things trump has done his whole adult life. What a jerk.

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
72. This is why decreasing numbers of people take the church seriously
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:13 PM
13 hrs ago

How many newly minted atheists did that interview just create?

Maeve

(43,034 posts)
73. If i wasn't already a recovering Catholic, this would do it
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:17 PM
13 hrs ago

I gave up on the church because ..many reasons..but this bozo is clueless and worshipping something other than Jesus

walkingman

(8,544 posts)
76. An example of why people are so turned off by religion these days - it is anything but righteous.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:53 PM
13 hrs ago

Wiz Imp

(2,411 posts)
77. If you needed any more proof that the Catholic Church is no longer a serious Christian entity, there you have it.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:02 PM
12 hrs ago

For this guy to have risen to one of the highest positions in the church and endorse a man who stands for everything that is the complete opposite of the teachings of Jesus Christ, shows that the teachings of Jesus mean noothing to the church. If the Catholic church had any integrity, this guy would have been kicked out long ago. Of course we already knew they had no integrity over their handling of the pedophile priests.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,654 posts)
79. IMHO. Cardinals and Bishops in the RCC are of the Republican class of this organization.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:20 PM
12 hrs ago

They are all about the status quo. The fact that such a person could make this statement, reconfirms my views of the state of this religion.

8 years of Jesuit education (great teachers) factors in this opinion.

Bettie

(17,388 posts)
83. That is simultaneously the
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 12:02 AM
7 hrs ago

funniest and saddest thing I've heard today.

Oh...it's Dolan, who is a joke himself.

lees1975

(6,100 posts)
86. He would not be on a revenge crusade if he took his Christian faith seriously.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 01:01 AM
6 hrs ago

But then, I have to wonder how many Catholic priests take theirs seriously. Or for how many of them it's just a scam. And the same can be said for conservative, Evangelical pastors.

Trump has openly denied the core principle of a Christian conversion experience, which is the acknowledgement of his own sin and the need for God's forgiveness. He has, on multiple occasions, in front of prominent religious leaders, on camera, stated that he has done nothing that requires God's forgiveness. In virtually every branch of Christianity, that's an open denial of the Doctrine of Salvation, and that testimony is Trump telling the world he is not Christian.

Trump has defined his own belief in God, contrary to any Christian revelation spoke n by Jesus Christ, who defined Christianity for the world. Submission to God is a key component of the Christian faith, and that is something Trump cannot and will not do. And any Catholic priest who knows his doctrine and is being faithful to the Church and to Christ would not be able to acknowledge this about Trump and remain credible.

LudwigPastorius

(11,065 posts)
88. "Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that Donald Trump 'takes his Christian faith seriously'."
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 02:00 AM
5 hrs ago

Oh, horseshit, Archie.

What part of "thou shalt not bear false witness" are you unclear on?

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