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Jrose

(1,358 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:24 AM 23 hrs ago

While much of the media bends weakly, 'The Guardian' stands firm

'How the Guardian will stand up to four more years of Donald Trump::
'Throughout the tumultuous years of the first Trump presidency we never minimised or normalised the threat of his authoritarianism, and we treated his lies as a genuine danger to democracy, a threat that found its expression on 6 January 2021.

'With Trump weeks away from taking office again – with dramatic implications for Ukraine and the Middle East, US democracy, reproductive rights, inequality and our collective environmental future – it’s time for us to redouble our efforts to hold the president-elect and those who surround him to account.

Trump is a direct threat to the freedom of the press. He has, for years, stirred up hatred against reporters, calling them an “enemy of the people”. He has referred to legitimate journalism as “fake news” and joked about members of the media being shot. Project 2025, the blueprint for a second Trump presidency, includes plans to make it easier to seize journalists’ emails and phone records.

'We will stand up to these threats, but it will take brave, well-funded independent journalism. It will take reporting that can’t be leaned upon by a billionaire owner terrified of retribution from the White House'.

(By Katharine Viner
Editor-in-chief, the Guardian)

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While much of the media bends weakly, 'The Guardian' stands firm (Original Post) Jrose 23 hrs ago OP
Link Dennis Donovan 22 hrs ago #1
Thanks, Dennis Donovan Jrose 22 hrs ago #3
Thanks for the link. I just subscribed. ananda 20 hrs ago #25
Happy Holidays to you as well! Dennis Donovan 19 hrs ago #29
Thanks for the link krkaufman 2 hrs ago #49
No free press, no democracy. Kid Berwyn 22 hrs ago #2
It is the only news source I read - aside from all that ends up at DU NewHendoLib 22 hrs ago #4
Ditto. Well, the Boston Globe for hometown sports news. KPN 21 hrs ago #14
Ah, Boston sports. Thoughts on Celts? Bruins? Sox off season? Pats? NewHendoLib 20 hrs ago #16
Ah, the Celtics! Can't get enough of them the last few years. Thoughts? KPN 19 hrs ago #31
My Knicks will take the Division. druidity33 17 hrs ago #40
propublica is another decent source worth paying for Kali 20 hrs ago #22
Be careful what you read on DU. Elessar Zappa 14 hrs ago #45
Yep. Understood. NewHendoLib 14 hrs ago #47
The Guardian is one of very few media I support. niyad 22 hrs ago #5
The Guardian and now the Ground News are the only news sources other than DU that we $ub$cribe to. usaf-vet 22 hrs ago #6
I just suscribed BonnieJW 20 hrs ago #18
We can resist by voting with our feet. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #35
So glad I ditched WaPo in favor of a Guardian subscription. intheflow 22 hrs ago #7
I wish there was a way to tarnish companies like ABC News for what they did oldmanlynn 21 hrs ago #8
Guardian Old Okie 21 hrs ago #9
I donate to The Guardian (U.S.), which takes no corporate money. ancianita 21 hrs ago #10
Same here. SergeStorms 20 hrs ago #17
... ancianita 20 hrs ago #19
I ended my subscription of The Nation. Trueblue Texan 21 hrs ago #11
Given all you've said here, it's puzzling that you stopped reading The Nation. TheRickles 21 hrs ago #12
The Nation lost me when they defended Russia in Russiagate. Sneederbunk 21 hrs ago #15
You're absolutely correct. Also, their whole scene (to me)..was edging toward a right place that I won't put up with. chouchou 20 hrs ago #20
I also sub to The Nation BumRushDaShow 20 hrs ago #26
Great post. raccoon 19 hrs ago #30
I don't read them much, but from what I've seen, they seem to be excessively pro-Putin. Crunchy Frog 18 hrs ago #38
Give, if you can. We need this. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #13
and they use a pay as you can model Kali 20 hrs ago #21
Good on them! NotHardly 20 hrs ago #23
My favorite news source malaise 20 hrs ago #24
Another to add is "Mother Jones" BumRushDaShow 20 hrs ago #27
I'm subscribing today. Also, don't accidentally to to guardian.com, FoxNewsSucks 20 hrs ago #28
And this is why I am and have been a monthly donor to the Guardian. nt Susan Calvin 19 hrs ago #32
In addition to The Guardian PhylliPretzel 19 hrs ago #33
Money talks. Support The Guardian. Sneederbunk 19 hrs ago #34
Time to subscribe to The Guardian... yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #36
Having put it off for longer than I should have... appmanga 18 hrs ago #37
I subscribed recently, too JT99 17 hrs ago #39
Katharine Viner..once again,it takes a woman to be a man these days. BattleRow 17 hrs ago #41
I have great respect for THE GUARDIAN nt delisen 17 hrs ago #42
The Guardian is all I will read now mdbl 16 hrs ago #43
Also recommend 'The Independent' online live news(based in Great Britain) Jrose 15 hrs ago #44
Weakly canetoad 14 hrs ago #46
Good to see the Guardian found their fastball again Blue_Tires 14 hrs ago #48
News sources Who_Me 2 hrs ago #50

krkaufman

(13,759 posts)
49. Thanks for the link
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 05:54 AM
2 hrs ago

Seems especially critical given the piece is part of a fundraising effort.

If you can afford to help us in this mission, please consider standing up for a free press and supporting the Guardian today from just £1 or $1.

The work starts now.

Kid Berwyn

(18,335 posts)
2. No free press, no democracy.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:58 AM
22 hrs ago

Control what they think, you’ll control what they do. It’s the NAZI way.

NewHendoLib

(60,567 posts)
16. Ah, Boston sports. Thoughts on Celts? Bruins? Sox off season? Pats?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:39 AM
20 hrs ago

I am loving the Celtics, pleasantly surprised with the Bruins, happy to see the Red Sox doing something - and we won't talk about the Pats!

KPN

(16,165 posts)
31. Ah, the Celtics! Can't get enough of them the last few years. Thoughts?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:50 PM
19 hrs ago

Hoping their experience carries them over Cleveland into the finals this year. They don't need any acquisitions or trades; they're good to go, though I do think they should rest Tatum more and maybe not rely quite so much on 3-pointers.

Yeah, the Bruins have responded well to that coaching change -- which surprised me, especially after how they had responded to Montgomery in his 1st year. I really didn't think the coach was the problem.

The Sox lost my interest in the last few years as they let talent go, understandably given the salaries, but a pretty drastic let down overall.

And the Pats -- Maye has got me back paying attention. I even streamed the Buffalo game -- minus the turnovers, they played really well. So yeah, looking forward to improvement next year.

I'll be 74 next week. Left MA permanently in 75, but have never stopped being a fan. And still love New England, though I gotta say, Oregon is pretty special too -- my wide and I have been here and raised our kids here since 88.

Go Celtics!

druidity33

(6,596 posts)
40. My Knicks will take the Division.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:07 PM
17 hrs ago


I left NY at 18 yo... I've also never stopped being a fan. I'm a Mets fan too. These have been some hard years....

Go Knicks!

Elessar Zappa

(16,076 posts)
45. Be careful what you read on DU.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 05:39 PM
14 hrs ago

I love it here and have been here since ‘03 but we’re not immune to posting misinformation. The good thing is that it’s usually called out but not always.

usaf-vet

(7,015 posts)
6. The Guardian and now the Ground News are the only news sources other than DU that we $ub$cribe to.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:28 AM
22 hrs ago

BonnieJW

(2,605 posts)
18. I just suscribed
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:56 AM
20 hrs ago

Thanks for this info.
Yesterday, I read in The Daily Beast that the head of Netflix made his way to Florida to kiss the fat ass. I canceled my Netflix subscription and what they asked why, I stated these actions. I will have nothing to do with trump freaks.

oldmanlynn

(505 posts)
8. I wish there was a way to tarnish companies like ABC News for what they did
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:44 AM
21 hrs ago

I realized that in our eyes, they are already tarnished, but they’re not paying the price for doing what they did and bending the knee

Old Okie

(198 posts)
9. Guardian
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:50 AM
21 hrs ago

I find the a reliable source for news the US MSM won't cover. I don't have a sub but donate frequently. It helps that they are owned by a trust instead of a corporation.

ancianita

(38,871 posts)
10. I donate to The Guardian (U.S.), which takes no corporate money.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
21 hrs ago

They are fact-based, up-to-the-minute, and committed to freedom of the press and informing Americans of what secures or endangers their freedoms.

SergeStorms

(19,339 posts)
17. Same here.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:46 AM
20 hrs ago

The Guardian and ProPublica are the only investigative news organizations I donate to. All the rest can kiss my...........Trump. 😁

ancianita

(38,871 posts)
19. ...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:08 PM
20 hrs ago

Also couldn't agree more about ProPublica.

Gotta say that along with The Guardian and ProPublica, the goal of free world knowledge by Wikipedia also gets big yearly donations from me. They've gotten better every year and these days Wikipedia is getting better and more up-to-date faster than most corporate media.

Amen to those who expand our map of reality.

Trueblue Texan

(2,999 posts)
11. I ended my subscription of The Nation.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:02 AM
21 hrs ago

I usually support media. With the exception of ABC, NYT, WAPO, (and the obvious right wing propaganda streams) I have been a defender of our media, especially those media to the left of center. But I’ve had it with the media blaming the Harris campaign and the Democrats for the election and taking no responsibility themselves. The truth is, it wouldn’t make any difference how flawless a campaign TFG’s opponent executed, or how hard grassroots Dems fought. The billionaires like President Musk bought the election and the media helped put him across the threshold in the EC. Our elections are fucked up because of the money involved and the power those influences have over the media. I feel like we’re on our own here, with only independent media to keep us informed. We have to keep our guard up not to end up in our own echo chamber unless we want to end up like the crazies on the right.

TheRickles

(2,468 posts)
12. Given all you've said here, it's puzzling that you stopped reading The Nation.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:05 AM
21 hrs ago

Their coverage has been pretty excellent all along, IMO, highlighting corporate control and the impending oligarchy.

chouchou

(1,420 posts)
20. You're absolutely correct. Also, their whole scene (to me)..was edging toward a right place that I won't put up with.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:19 PM
20 hrs ago

BumRushDaShow

(144,170 posts)
26. I also sub to The Nation
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:30 PM
20 hrs ago

and they became Putinistas. Their root raison d'etre was always left/Socialist-leaning but this thing they have been doing with current Putin oligarchical Russia is sickening.

Kali

(55,876 posts)
21. and they use a pay as you can model
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:20 PM
20 hrs ago

so if you can afford it send them a little money. I transferred my NYT and WAPO funds to them.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,840 posts)
28. I'm subscribing today. Also, don't accidentally to to guardian.com,
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:37 PM
20 hrs ago

that's a Koch website. Probably deliberate.

PhylliPretzel

(148 posts)
33. In addition to The Guardian
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:57 PM
19 hrs ago

I recommend Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman and Al Jazeera English for world news.

appmanga

(965 posts)
37. Having put it off for longer than I should have...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:10 PM
18 hrs ago

...I subscribed. One of the things I've pointed out is how outlets like Faux and The New York Post are used as loss-leader propaganda channels for the right-wing and The Guardian is the only left-leaning media outlet that tries to level the playing field by providing many of its stories outside of a paywall.

Imagine if the filthy rich, and getting richer, billionaire Jeff Bezos decided to see a fearless, independent Washington Post as a counter to the Murdoch factories of lies. This country today has many cowards of historic proportion, but Bezos easily resides among the top five.

JT99

(50 posts)
39. I subscribed recently, too
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:46 PM
17 hrs ago

for the first time. Also subscribed to The Atlantic and renewed my membership in the ACLU.

mdbl

(5,503 posts)
43. The Guardian is all I will read now
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:45 PM
16 hrs ago

Don't trust any major newspapers in the US anymore now that they are run by dictators.

Jrose

(1,358 posts)
44. Also recommend 'The Independent' online live news(based in Great Britain)
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:54 PM
15 hrs ago

Has a U. S. live political blog that runs daily

Who_Me

(15 posts)
50. News sources
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 05:54 AM
2 hrs ago

We have subscribed to the Guardian for the last few years.
Along with reading Pro Publica, for there excellent in depth articles.
Some other ones to check in on is the BBC, Australian Broadcast Company & DW from Germany.
PBS plays half hour news broadcast's from the above news sites, France24 and NHK.
I like getting information from other countries, gives me more diverse viewpoints.

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