General Discussion

DeeDeeNY

(3,579 posts) Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:02 AM Yesterday

Should Biden proactively pardon all members of J6 Committee?

Otherwise they will be in danger for doing their jobs exceedingly well.

12 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Should Biden proactively pardon all members of J6 Committee? (Original Post) DeeDeeNY Yesterday OP

We know the harassment of the committee members is already gearing up in congress Dennis Donovan Yesterday #1

I think his staff should poll the members. Give a pardon to those who want one. Was initially all allegorical oracle Yesterday #3

Exactly the reason for pardons DeeDeeNY Yesterday #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Yesterday #2

I'm hoping that if they prosecute the committee... Think. Again. Yesterday #5

At least half the country never saw the televised J6 hearings DeeDeeNY Yesterday #8

Yes, it'll be heard by Democrats, engaged republicans, historians, ... Think. Again. Yesterday #9

Yes get the red out Yesterday #6

Tough question for many reasons karynnj Yesterday #7

No, because it gives the impression that they did something illegal. beaglelover Yesterday #10

But the next administration will not be a normal one DeeDeeNY Yesterday #11

Fuck no. Why should they be pardons for doing their job? Autumn Yesterday #12

Dennis Donovan

(27,400 posts)

1. We know the harassment of the committee members is already gearing up in congress

Reply to DeeDeeNY (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:19 AM

Yesterday

CNN - After investigating January 6, House GOP sides with Trump and goes after Liz Cheney

Annie Grayer, CNN
Updated 8:37 AM EST, Thu December 19, 2024

President-elect Donald Trump has long suggested he would try to prosecute his political opponents, and House Republicans delivered him a new opening on Tuesday through a report recommending that GOP former Rep. Liz Cheney be prosecuted by the FBI for her role in probing the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Trump, who has said Cheney should go to jail and even amplified posts on social media calling for a televised military tribunal for her, said on Truth Social Wednesday morning that Cheney “could be in a lot of trouble” based on the report released by House GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk. Trump’s elevation of the report carries even more weight considering he has chosen loyalist Kash Patel, who has a retribution list of his own, to lead the FBI.

In the report, Loudermilk singles out Cheney, a longtime top target of Trump, and claims that she colluded with former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, whose explosive testimony was crucial to the former select committee’s investigation.

“Based on the evidence obtained by this Subcommittee, numerous federal laws were likely broken by Liz Cheney, the former Vice Chair of the January 6 Select Committee, and these violations should be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation,” the report states.

/snip

They're going to likely fabricate evidence against the J6 committee members. So expect a kangaroo kongress.

allegorical oracle

(3,393 posts)

3. I think his staff should poll the members. Give a pardon to those who want one. Was initially all

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:42 AM

Yesterday

for the pardons, but it does suggest that a member "needs" one because s/he committed a crime -- or fears TSF's retribution. *His* reptilian brain can smell fear on other people and it heightens his excitement.

DeeDeeNY

(3,579 posts)

4. Exactly the reason for pardons

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:44 AM

Yesterday

Response to DeeDeeNY (Original post)

Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)

5. I'm hoping that if they prosecute the committee...

Reply to DeeDeeNY (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:48 AM

Yesterday

...the committee will bring out all sorts of evidence that wasn't made public before, but that's also why I don't think they would prosecute the committee.

DeeDeeNY

(3,579 posts)

8. At least half the country never saw the televised J6 hearings

Reply to Think. Again. (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:20 AM

Yesterday

And they don't get news from any reliable sources if at all. So additional evidence would mostly be heard by Democrats, further enraging them but not enlightening anyone else.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)

9. Yes, it'll be heard by Democrats, engaged republicans, historians, ...

Reply to DeeDeeNY (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:29 AM

Yesterday

....leaders and other engaged civilians around the world, voters of all kinds, Attorneys, prosecutors, judges, potential juries....

Etc.

Everyone who doesn't "get news from any reliable sources if at all".

In other words, the public.

get the red out

(13,636 posts)

6. Yes

Reply to DeeDeeNY (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:54 AM

Yesterday

He should, they do not deserve to have their lives upended.

karynnj

(60,012 posts)

7. Tough question for many reasons

Reply to DeeDeeNY (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:58 AM

Yesterday

The main reason not to is that they did nothing wrong and a blanket pardons for all committee members might be used by Trump to "prove" to people willing to listen that they did something wrong. They might then go after committee staff and people who testified.

Consider that there was anger on our side that Trump in 2020 could pardon everyone involved in J6 and any other illegal behavior. To some on the other side, Biden pardoning what will be seen as partisan people ( it is beyond weird that Cheney is considered by MAGA as in our side) in the same light normalizing a view that people controlling the Presidency do not have to follow the law.

The main reason to do so is the huge amount of pain legal persecutions cause.