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What is up with the Convicted Rapist's obsession with Greenland? (Original Post) bif Yesterday OP
Oil. Hugin Yesterday #1
And shipping lanes NCDem47 21 hrs ago #17
He heard the Girl From Ipanema went there? Dennis Donovan Yesterday #2
A couple of ideas to explain it: no_hypocrisy Yesterday #3
with warming continuing rampartd Yesterday #6
It is big; a big piece of land on a map. Mexico is big. Canada is bigger Norbert Yesterday #4
It's the color of money. sop Yesterday #5
Stealing shit BeyondGeography Yesterday #7
MAGA is all in on this, but they don't know why... Historic NY Yesterday #8
Here's an old Chris Cilliza article from 2019 about Trump and Greenland. It's pretty good. ratchiweenie Yesterday #9
This paragraph especially: tanyev 23 hrs ago #15
Distraction from the price of eggs JI7 Yesterday #10
He WANTS... 2naSalit Yesterday #11
All of the yeller spots on the "Risk" game board are being his!!iii!! Hugin Yesterday #12
He heard John Lennon say "turn left at Greenland" karynnj 23 hrs ago #13
Arctic resource rights. Voltaire2 23 hrs ago #14
Because of its lots of square-miles. DetlefK 21 hrs ago #16
It has a lot of vacant shoreline to build hotels, casinos, and golf courses. Ping Tung 21 hrs ago #18
Trump saw it on a map once. Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #19
He thinks that Greenland is bigger than South America. John Farmer 16 hrs ago #21
Playing Risk as a teen, got his booty kicked through Greenland JCMach1 20 hrs ago #20
K&R for post and discussion. nt crickets 16 hrs ago #22
trump rediscovers his odd interest in U.S. ownership of Greenland LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles 12 hrs ago #24

NCDem47

(2,593 posts)
17. And shipping lanes
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:20 AM
21 hrs ago

as planet warms up, there's going to chess moves in the Artic.

Bottom line: M-O-N-E-Y to be made by somoene.

no_hypocrisy

(49,182 posts)
3. A couple of ideas to explain it:
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:12 AM
Yesterday

1. Knowing Trump, he'd rather "appropriate" real estate rather than pay for it. Even though he'll argue there's a very large federal deficit, he'd find the money to first try to buy Greenland. But that won't happen.

2. So, using a falsehood of a crisis, maybe he'd send the military into Greenland to "protect" it -- from China, who knows? And using American imperialism (if not Israeli MO), the troops would stay in Greenland indefinitely.

3. I don't know how he'd do it, but whatever wealth Greenland has, Trump would want a taste of the action. Leasing out land for excavating the soil for minerals, perhaps even clean, fresh water, would be another source of income for him.

4. And on a non-pecuniary note, I honestly believe Trump likes (a lot) the concept of taking over another country, making its residents part of his kingdom. Greenland would now take orders from Trump, not themselves, not Denmark.

5. Trump likes to prove that he can do something that everyone tells him would be impossible to do.

Exhibit A: The Dobbs decision. Everyone told Trump that it would impossible to overturn Roe and he did it.

Exhibit B: More than 30 years ago, Trump attempted to use eminent domain to get ownership of a small property near his casino in Atlantic City. (He wanted the lot to develop a parking garage for limos to his business.) He first offered the owner, a widow, a pittance of the value of the property, which she turned down. Trump took her to court again and again. He was told it wasn't worth the time and money, but he believed he could wear out the widow. Not exactly. Trump had to abandon his plans and was chagrined that he lost to an elderly woman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking_house

rampartd

(858 posts)
6. with warming continuing
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:22 AM
Yesterday

plenty of minerals and oil may be revealed. (bitcoin mining on the scale to fill a bitcoin resserve may finish the oligarch project of melting the ice cap for fun and profit. but that is just my theory)

the real estate reply might also be a good one, again more valuable as the ice melts.

note on exhibit b - it is well known that trump will never take no for an answer.

"if she says no i hear maybe." trump

Norbert

(6,609 posts)
4. It is big; a big piece of land on a map. Mexico is big. Canada is bigger
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:17 AM
Yesterday

He wants to be the ruler of the biggest country in the world. He is obsessed with BIG. He said his inauguration had the biggest crowd ever. His rallies are big, bigger than Biden's or Harris's, according to him. BIG is his MO.

He is the world's oldest adolescent boy, comparing his penis to everyone else's. This is what it is all about.

Historic NY

(38,043 posts)
8. MAGA is all in on this, but they don't know why...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:36 AM
Yesterday

they think its a great idea. They were all giddy about it. Greenland is getting greener, when I tell then that they don't seem to understand. Green also because of its minerals.


https://theconversation.com/greenland-is-getting-greener-helped-by-a-mining-company-and-a-group-of-tree-enthusiasts-244606]

tanyev

(44,727 posts)
15. This paragraph especially:
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 09:04 AM
23 hrs ago
(A quick sidebar on the this-is-all-a-strategic-distraction from gun control or immigration, etc., argument: No, it isn’t. Is there anything you have seen in Trump’s time in office that would lead you to believe that he is capable of that sort of strategic planning and execution? It’s readily apparent at this point that Trump is just saying stuff – and then reacting to how those things land with the general public. There is no three-dimensional chess. There’s not any kind of chess being played.)


Donny is all gut instinct, not deliberate strategy. Yes, maybe when he says crazy stuff it has the added benefit (for him) of distracting from other things, but he’s ALWAYS saying crazy stuff and there’s ALWAYS things going on they want to distract attention from. That’s just a built-in feature of Trumpism.

Hugin

(34,745 posts)
12. All of the yeller spots on the "Risk" game board are being his!!iii!!
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:04 AM
Yesterday

Plus, he needs the dashed line to Iceland for to attack the purples!!!iii!!

I’m only half kidding here.

karynnj

(60,012 posts)
13. He heard John Lennon say "turn left at Greenland"
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:11 AM
23 hrs ago

This in response to the press question on their February 1964 trip asking how they found the US.

DetlefK

(16,493 posts)
16. Because of its lots of square-miles.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:13 AM
21 hrs ago

When he won in 2016, he bragged about how much area was red on the election-map.

Ping Tung

(1,420 posts)
18. It has a lot of vacant shoreline to build hotels, casinos, and golf courses.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:42 AM
21 hrs ago

Also prison camps for Democrats, journalists, intellectuals, and disobedient women.

John Farmer

(234 posts)
21. He thinks that Greenland is bigger than South America.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:39 PM
16 hrs ago

The mercator projection makes it look like it is.

JCMach1

(28,135 posts)
20. Playing Risk as a teen, got his booty kicked through Greenland
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:04 PM
20 hrs ago

He went to a military school. You know what I am saying is true if you ever played the game.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,489 posts)
23. trump rediscovers his odd interest in U.S. ownership of Greenland
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 05:36 PM
14 hrs ago

Greenland is not for sale, though the Republican president-elect continues to believe that it's "an absolute necessity" for the United States to buy it.
https://bsky.app/profile/mynewsfeed.link/post/3ldycld4gxk27

Trump rediscovers his odd interest in U.S. ownership of Greenland: Greenland is not for sale, though Donald Trump continues to believe that it's "an absolute necessity" for the United States to buy it.



And then, of course, there’s Greenland.

In an item published to his social media platform, the president-elect announced his intention to nominate Ken Howery, the former U.S. ambassador to Sweden, to serve as the next U.S. ambassador to Demark. The statement probably wouldn’t have generated many headlines, were it not for one related point Trump added in the online announcement:

For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity.


Yes, we’re apparently back to the whole “let’s buy Greenland” thing again......

Blinken added that, as far as the Biden administration was concerned, the United States was not interested in trying to purchase Greenland.

About a month from now, that will apparently change.

It’s not altogether clear why, exactly, Trump sees owning Greenland as “an absolute necessity.” It might have something to do with oil, or perhaps the president-elect has some other undisclosed motivation.

Regardless, the morning after the Republican’s online statement reached the public, Trump confronted news he probably didn’t want to see. “Greenland is ours. We are not for sale and will never be for sale. We must not lose our long struggle for freedom,” the island’s Prime Minister Mute Egede said in a written comment.

If recent history is any guide, Trump will probably ignore the statement. Watch this space.

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