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What does Musk want to do, what are the problems, and why is he facing criticism?
Blue_Tires
(56,695 posts)That's why he's found a kindred spirit in Donnie.
As far back as a 2019 CBS interview, Elmer was swearing that he was just "...two years from landing an unmanned spacecraft on Mars and four years from crewed missions..." He's still spewing the same bullshit today -- Just like Donnie releasing his much touted healthcare and infrastructure plans "in a couple of weeks..."
He also swore up and down that the MSRP for the Cybertruck would be under $40k, and it turned out to be $80k (I see now that sales have been so craptastic that he's selling the top trim level $100k model for $80k)...
hatrack
(61,190 posts)Same old hype and bullshit.
Blue_Tires
(56,695 posts)misanthrope
(8,295 posts)Mars is too inhospitable for human settlement. Our current technology is vastly inadequate for the job, not just the transportation but the large-scale terraforming required.
And the reason for terraforming's necessity is the most difficult and practically insurmountable obstacle in the idea: Mars has almost no magnetosphere. The planet is bombarded by solar winds that strip it of the elements needed to sustain life. Plus, there are cosmic rays to deal with as well.
The problem is just too big and if we had the tech and power to solve it, then we could save Earth from anthropogenic climate change first. But we don't. The Mars colonization pipe dream is a ridiculous waste of resources under current circumstances.
IbogaProject
(3,768 posts)He just wants to run those horrible asteroid mines like from the Terminater Movie.
Parallax El
(6 posts)...that a bubble colony wouldn't support enough of a population to be self-sustaining for CENTURIES. It would be 100% dependent on Earth for resources, including human lives spent in deadly conditions.
The most inhospitable place on Earth is almost infinitely more hospitable than anywhere on Mars. It is dead in a way that, as Earthlings, we can only imagine.
Even if we could muster the long-term resources and WILL to create a self-sustaining colony on Mars, it would take absurdly long to terraform it. We're talking thousands of years. Long enough for macro-evolution to occur in our species.
It's all ludicrous. Colonizing Mars might be achievable in 500 years, if we waste valuable Earth resources to do it.
Terraforming it? 15,000 to 35,000 but we'll go over-budget and bankrupt long before then.
rampartd
(849 posts)anyone there becomes totally dependent upon supplies from earth, pretty much like the 17th century colonists in jamestown who were eating each other when the ships were no show.
i'd go as a military/government expedition maybe, but as a private enterprise , dependent on earthly billionaires, no.
Roy Rolling
(7,206 posts)In the year 2011 Elmo said hed land a human being on Mars within 10 years.
Math Interlude
2011
+10
= 2021
It will soon be be 2025
Bonus Math
2025
-2021
= Youre 4 fucking years overdue already Sissy SpaceX
2naSalit
(93,400 posts)We humans will not be able to leave the planet and survive in physical form. Our physical bodies require too many elements present on this planet that are not present elsewhere and to think that we could actually bring our bioshperic needs and comforts with us is really a stretch.
Otherwise, I liked her arguments against leon's approach and rationale and the snippet of Maher and de Grasse-Tyson, that was good.
mercuryblues
(15,248 posts)and chocolate nougat.
Wait until he finds out it's full of trumps dirty diapers and MAGAts.
HAB911
(9,369 posts)just ain't gonna happen
NJCher
(38,211 posts)Indeed.
This is just a scam for musk to funnel massive amounts of tax dollars into his pockets.
He thinks consciousness resides in the body of people of earth. Laughable!
Linda ladeewolf
(487 posts)Is the way people think that dont want to do the work of fixing the problems on earth. We have one lovely planet. There are too many of us, its colonial thinking to want to spread out and expand to other areas instead of fixing whats wrong. It would be much simpler for us to reduce our population, by not reproducing so much. And try to clean up the earth. Not easy, but simpler, not as dramatic though, not as imaginative. We need to eliminate the need for money and start recycling everything because its the only answer to our problem, not because it saves money.
Crunchy Frog
(27,115 posts)quarantined on Earth for as long as possible.
Let's stop wrecking our own world before we go out and start wrecking other worlds.
LisaL
(46,751 posts)Win win for everyone, I say.