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Musk is wrong about Mars (Original Post) struggle4progress 17 hrs ago OP
Melon Husk loves to over promise and under deliver Blue_Tires 17 hrs ago #1
See also: autonomous vehicles, the Cyber Truck, high-speed tunnels . . .. hatrack 12 hrs ago #8
Oh right, I forgot about his abandoned maglev project outside of Las Vegas Blue_Tires 2 hrs ago #12
Elon Musk if full of shit and he knows it misanthrope 16 hrs ago #2
Only .39 of our gravity too IbogaProject 16 hrs ago #3
All of this. It would take so long to make even part of Mars SURVIVABLE... Parallax El 14 min ago #14
who would go? rampartd 16 hrs ago #4
Start with his first prediction from 2011 Roy Rolling 15 hrs ago #5
First of all... 2naSalit 12 hrs ago #6
He probably thinks it full of caramel mercuryblues 12 hrs ago #7
finally someone addresses the lack of a magnetic field HAB911 11 hrs ago #9
Dangerous delusion NJCher 11 hrs ago #10
This type of thinking Linda ladeewolf 8 hrs ago #11
I would like to see humanity in its present form Crunchy Frog 25 min ago #13
Why doesn't he go to Mars and populate it? LisaL 7 min ago #15

Blue_Tires

(56,695 posts)
1. Melon Husk loves to over promise and under deliver
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:44 AM
17 hrs ago

That's why he's found a kindred spirit in Donnie.

As far back as a 2019 CBS interview, Elmer was swearing that he was just "...two years from landing an unmanned spacecraft on Mars and four years from crewed missions..." He's still spewing the same bullshit today -- Just like Donnie releasing his much touted healthcare and infrastructure plans "in a couple of weeks..."

He also swore up and down that the MSRP for the Cybertruck would be under $40k, and it turned out to be $80k (I see now that sales have been so craptastic that he's selling the top trim level $100k model for $80k)...

hatrack

(61,190 posts)
8. See also: autonomous vehicles, the Cyber Truck, high-speed tunnels . . ..
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:33 AM
12 hrs ago

Same old hype and bullshit.

misanthrope

(8,295 posts)
2. Elon Musk if full of shit and he knows it
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:13 AM
16 hrs ago

Mars is too inhospitable for human settlement. Our current technology is vastly inadequate for the job, not just the transportation but the large-scale terraforming required.

And the reason for terraforming's necessity is the most difficult and practically insurmountable obstacle in the idea: Mars has almost no magnetosphere. The planet is bombarded by solar winds that strip it of the elements needed to sustain life. Plus, there are cosmic rays to deal with as well.

The problem is just too big and if we had the tech and power to solve it, then we could save Earth from anthropogenic climate change first. But we don't. The Mars colonization pipe dream is a ridiculous waste of resources under current circumstances.

IbogaProject

(3,768 posts)
3. Only .39 of our gravity too
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:39 AM
16 hrs ago

He just wants to run those horrible asteroid mines like from the Terminater Movie.

Parallax El

(6 posts)
14. All of this. It would take so long to make even part of Mars SURVIVABLE...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:37 PM
14 min ago

...that a bubble colony wouldn't support enough of a population to be self-sustaining for CENTURIES. It would be 100% dependent on Earth for resources, including human lives spent in deadly conditions.

The most inhospitable place on Earth is almost infinitely more hospitable than anywhere on Mars. It is dead in a way that, as Earthlings, we can only imagine.

Even if we could muster the long-term resources and WILL to create a self-sustaining colony on Mars, it would take absurdly long to terraform it. We're talking thousands of years. Long enough for macro-evolution to occur in our species.

It's all ludicrous. Colonizing Mars might be achievable in 500 years, if we waste valuable Earth resources to do it.

Terraforming it? 15,000 to 35,000 but we'll go over-budget and bankrupt long before then.

rampartd

(849 posts)
4. who would go?
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:41 AM
16 hrs ago

anyone there becomes totally dependent upon supplies from earth, pretty much like the 17th century colonists in jamestown who were eating each other when the ships were no show.

i'd go as a military/government expedition maybe, but as a private enterprise , dependent on earthly billionaires, no.

Roy Rolling

(7,206 posts)
5. Start with his first prediction from 2011
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:02 AM
15 hrs ago

In the year 2011 Elmo said he’d land a human being on Mars within 10 years.

Math Interlude

2011
+10
= 2021

It will soon be be 2025

Bonus Math

2025
-2021
= You’re 4 fucking years overdue already Sissy SpaceX

2naSalit

(93,400 posts)
6. First of all...
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:06 AM
12 hrs ago

We humans will not be able to leave the planet and survive in physical form. Our physical bodies require too many elements present on this planet that are not present elsewhere and to think that we could actually bring our bioshperic needs and comforts with us is really a stretch.

Otherwise, I liked her arguments against leon's approach and rationale and the snippet of Maher and de Grasse-Tyson, that was good.

mercuryblues

(15,248 posts)
7. He probably thinks it full of caramel
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:15 AM
12 hrs ago

and chocolate nougat.

Wait until he finds out it's full of trumps dirty diapers and MAGAts.

NJCher

(38,211 posts)
10. Dangerous delusion
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 08:18 AM
11 hrs ago

Indeed.

This is just a scam for musk to funnel massive amounts of tax dollars into his pockets.

He thinks consciousness resides in the body of people of earth. Laughable!

Linda ladeewolf

(487 posts)
11. This type of thinking
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:48 AM
8 hrs ago

Is the way people think that don’t want to do the work of fixing the problems on earth. We have one lovely planet. There are too many of us, it’s colonial thinking to want to spread out and expand to other areas instead of fixing what’s wrong. It would be much simpler for us to reduce our population, by not reproducing so much. And try to clean up the earth. Not easy, but simpler, not as dramatic though, not as imaginative. We need to eliminate the need for money and start recycling everything because it’s the only answer to our problem, not because it saves money.

Crunchy Frog

(27,115 posts)
13. I would like to see humanity in its present form
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 07:26 PM
25 min ago

quarantined on Earth for as long as possible.

Let's stop wrecking our own world before we go out and start wrecking other worlds.

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