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Pototan

(2,118 posts) Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:48 AM Yesterday

This kind of talk is from madmen

Elon Musk is at least a co-President of the United States. He has pledged $100 million to the far-right party is Great Britain headed by Nigel Farage. He tweeted his support for the opposition, neo-Nazi AfD party in Germany.

Trump has talked about annexing Canada and Mexico. He's pissed off Denmark by saying America should purchase Greenland. And now, he threatens to retake the Panama Canal from Panama.

These are among our closest allies. Trump sounds like some drunk in a bar pissing off his friends with wild, empty threats or bad jokes.

America should be embarrassed.

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This kind of talk is from madmen (Original Post) Pototan Yesterday OP

This is what voters wanted, so leave me out of it Blue_Tires Yesterday #1

Oh, I feel the same way Pototan Yesterday #2

oh, and THIS Skittles Yesterday #3

The title and the last 3 paragraphs from your link perfectly illustrates your point -- nmmi Yesterday #5

yes......and try to imagine if a DEMOCRAT was behaving like this Skittles Yesterday #6

By flooding zone w shit, these attacks on neighbors & allies get short shrift in the media, there is so much to cover.nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #8

The invitation to Trudeau to go to Merde-a-Loco was issued before the tariff bomb. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #7

He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us? Rhiannon12866 Yesterday #4

Do we want them soldierant Yesterday #9

You're completely right, we're on our own here for at least the next four years Rhiannon12866 Yesterday #10

Let's see ... soldierant Yesterday #11

And now we need to worry about Ukraine... Rhiannon12866 Yesterday #12

Oh, lord, yes. soldierant 9 hrs ago #22

I am utterly embarrassed! Not just about what tsf says, but the idiots we live with that voted for this PortTack Yesterday #13

Beware! SleeplessinSoCal Yesterday #14

NYT: Trump's Wish to Control Greenland and Panama Canal: Not a Joke This Time (no paywall) nmmi Yesterday #15

Should be more Figarosmom Yesterday #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #17

I didn't JustAnotherGen Yesterday #18

We are all Americans, whether we voted for Trump or not Pototan Yesterday #19

I'm a Black Woman JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #21

In their world malaise Yesterday #20

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)

1. This is what voters wanted, so leave me out of it

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:53 AM

Yesterday

Pototan

(2,118 posts)

2. Oh, I feel the same way

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:55 AM

Yesterday

but we do have a right to comment on it.

Skittles

(160,282 posts)

3. oh, and THIS

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 01:59 AM

Yesterday

the media whitewashing Trump's insanity

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/23/politics/trump-us-expansion-panama-canada-greenland/index.html

nmmi

(203 posts)

5. The title and the last 3 paragraphs from your link perfectly illustrates your point --

Reply to Skittles (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:03 AM

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/23/politics/trump-us-expansion-panama-canada-greenland/index.html

Trump is teasing US expansion into Panama, Greenland and Canada
...
The episode stems from another Trump provocation, this one to implement 25% tariffs on goods originating from Canada and Mexico, that is illustrative of his approach to negotiating with foreign leaders.

In many ways, the gambit delivered the intended result: leaders from both countries immediately sought an audience with Trump to reaffirm their commitment to assist the US on border issues. And it provided an early avenue for Trump to claim victory over a foreign target.

“President Trump Is Securing The Border,” his transition team wrote in a recent release, “And He Hasn’t Even Taken Office Yet.”

Emphasis added

"Teasing" and "delivered the intended result", sigh.

It sure is upsetting the targets, and the rest of the world is going WTF!, and as Rhiannon points out in #4,

He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us? ... can't trust

Skittles

(160,282 posts)

6. yes......and try to imagine if a DEMOCRAT was behaving like this

Reply to nmmi (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:08 AM

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especially a woman and./ or POC

WTF, the media would be ALARMED

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,238 posts)

8. By flooding zone w shit, these attacks on neighbors & allies get short shrift in the media, there is so much to cover.nt

Reply to Skittles (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:12 AM

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Bernardo de La Paz

(51,238 posts)

7. The invitation to Trudeau to go to Merde-a-Loco was issued before the tariff bomb. . . . .nt

Reply to nmmi (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:10 AM

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Rhiannon12866

(224,278 posts)

4. He is pissing off and scaring our friends and allies. Do we think that they'll share classified information with us?

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 02:03 AM

Yesterday

Republicans elected a U.S. president that we - and the rest of the world - can't trust.

soldierant

(7,999 posts)

9. Do we want them

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:13 AM

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to share classified information with us when the Apricot Antichrist is just going to turn around and give it to Putin? Not that any Republican could think that far ahead - --

Rhiannon12866

(224,278 posts)

10. You're completely right, we're on our own here for at least the next four years

Reply to soldierant (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:17 AM

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And he (or they) haven't even taken office yet - but he's already managed to alienate how many allies so far??

soldierant

(7,999 posts)

11. Let's see ...

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:33 AM

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France, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Panama ... and probably more that haven't hit the news yet.

Rhiannon12866

(224,278 posts)

12. And now we need to worry about Ukraine...

Reply to soldierant (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:35 AM

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soldierant

(7,999 posts)

22. Oh, lord, yes.

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:45 PM

9 hrs ago

PortTack

(34,829 posts)

13. I am utterly embarrassed! Not just about what tsf says, but the idiots we live with that voted for this

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:10 AM

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SleeplessinSoCal

(9,739 posts)

14. Beware!

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:23 AM

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Most likely it's the usual subterfuge for the plan to rob us of our Social Security.

nmmi

(203 posts)

15. NYT: Trump's Wish to Control Greenland and Panama Canal: Not a Joke This Time (no paywall)

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:37 AM

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-wish-to-control-greenland-and-panama-canal-not-a-joke-this-time/ar-AA1wo7v4

Story by David E. Sanger and Lisa Friedman, 12/23/24

Over the past two days, President-elect Donald J. Trump has made clear that he has designs for American territorial expansion, declaring that the United States has both security concerns and commercial interests that can best be addressed by bringing the Panama Canal and Greenland under American control or outright ownership.

Mr. Trump’s tone has had none of the trolling jocularity that surrounded his repeated suggestions in recent weeks that Canada should become America’s “51st state,” including his social media references to the country’s beleaguered prime minister as “Governor Justin Trudeau.”

Instead, while naming a new ambassador to Denmark — which controls Greenland’s foreign and defense affairs — Mr. Trump made clear on Sunday that his first-term offer to buy the landmass could, in the coming term, become a deal the Danes cannot refuse. He appears to covet Greenland both for its strategic location at a time when the melting of Arctic ice is opening new commercial and naval competition and for its reserves of rare earth minerals needed for advanced technology.

On Saturday evening, he had accused Panama of price-gouging American ships traversing the canal, and suggested that unless that changed, he would abandon the Jimmy Carter-era treaty that returned all control of the canal zone to Panama. ."This complete ‘rip-off’ of our country will immediately stop.”..

and to keep the canal from falling into the wrong hands according to him

Figarosmom

(3,285 posts)

16. Should be more

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 04:45 AM

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Then embarrassed. This sounds like the talk of someone who wants to invade those countries if they don't just give in and become part of the U.S.

WE SHOULD BE SHOCKED

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JustAnotherGen

(33,805 posts)

18. I didn't

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:04 AM

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Vote for him. I.have nothing to be embarrassed about. People are going to suffer. But they chose that for themselves.

Pototan

(2,118 posts)

19. We are all Americans, whether we voted for Trump or not

Reply to JustAnotherGen (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:15 AM

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All Germans went a couple of generations being embarrassed for what Hitler did, whether they supported him or not.

JustAnotherGen

(33,805 posts)

21. I'm a Black Woman

Reply to Pototan (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:25 PM

17 hrs ago

The statement doesn't apply to me. We are despised in AmeriKKKa.

The Dominant Culture owns this. We are going to be the victims so we only have to take care of our own. There will be no magical Black Women this time. Y'all need to figure it out without us.

malaise

(278,740 posts)

20. In their world

Reply to Pototan (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2024, 06:55 AM

Yesterday

they take what they want - they have been doing this for ages
your daughters, sons, resources, land etc.
and sadly most Americans and global white supremacists, fascists, zionists etc cheer them on.

I’m sick of this planet.

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