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Javaman

(63,196 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:06 PM Monday

So why Panama?

What is really bind the fucked up halfwittery of trump wanting to get the canal back?

Is it some late night fever dream conjured whole clothe from his addled brain?

Or like most things he does, it it a personal grudge or perhaps was the mad monk whispering in his ear about one of his personal grudges?

I give you Jeff Tiedrich to explain it all…

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/oh-look-elderly-golfer-is-a-geopolitical

“ on Saturday, Donny threatened to invade Panama and take back the Canal. we all had fun mocking the shit out Donny’s bluster, but he didn’t come up with the idea all by his lonesome.

this clusterfuck-to-come has the ketamine-addled cortex of President-Elect Elon Musk all over it — because you know who depends on global shipping lanes, don’t you?


The electric car manufacturer Tesla is to halt most production at its factory near Berlin for two weeks because of delays in deliveries of parts because of attacks on ships in the Red Sea.

Shipping delays in the Red Sea, caused by attacks by Iranian-backed Houthi militants, has caused Tesla to suspend most production at its German factory from 29 January to 11 February.

Tesla lost a shitload of money when Houthis shut down the Red Sea. now that President-Elect Musk is soon to have access-by-proxy to an army, he’s gonna make sure this pernicious fuckery doesn’t happen again.

but he’s going to start in America’s own back yard — because Tesla uses the Panama Canal, too.


isn’t it amazing, the things you can find on the internet?

suddenly, Donny’s anger over an increase in canal access fees makes sense — because there’s a 100% certainty that Donny had no idea that money changes hands when ships use the Canal — but of course the Space Nazi is all too aware of anything that affects his bottom line.

of course, there is also Donny’s own personal revenge motive

Trump companies accused of tax evasion in Panama

I know, right? I, too, am shocked — shocked! — to learn that Donny is an international tax cheat. so it turns out that Donny is hella pissed at Panama for his own reasons — but that’s just icing on the cake. that’s just something President Musk can use to stoke Donny’s rage.

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elleng

(136,819 posts)
1. AHA!
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:20 PM
Monday

Tesla lost a shitload of money when Houthis shut down the Red Sea. now that President-Elect Musk is soon to have access-by-proxy to an army, he’s gonna make sure this pernicious fuckery doesn’t happen again.

but he’s going to start in America’s own back yard — because Tesla uses the Panama Canal, too.


isn’t it amazing, the things you can find on the internet?

AND, see Rachel's first segment, Musk/Tesla/Trmp/Taxes, FIRST oligarch-related acts of tmp#2.

unblock

(54,242 posts)
2. Panama is obvious, they have that juicy asset. The Greenland obsession needs more explanation.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:29 PM
Monday

Big land close to us? Is that about it?

Their exports are 80% seafood.

Is he worried about supply for his filet-o-fish??

rampartd

(859 posts)
6. the greenland obsession is a quiet admission that warming is real
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:22 PM
Monday

and that alaska sized oil reserves (and who knows what else) will be revealed as the ice melts

muriel_volestrangler

(102,693 posts)
3. (a) he's got nothing to lose (b) he thinks they might lower rates for American ships to shut him up
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:36 PM
Monday

He knows he doesn't have an international reputation that would suffer from him being seen as a bully and idiot. And like a frivolous lawsuit, he thinks Panama might give him a deal to go away and stop hassling them.

appmanga

(965 posts)
4. It's not that convoluted...
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:37 PM
Monday

...and apologies for having to link to Newsweek, but this is one of their stopped clock stories: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-panama-canal-threats-hotel-taxes-court-filing-2005079

Along with this older article from The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/05/trump-panama-hotel-standoff-loses-physical-control

TLDR: Years ago, Panama kicked The Trump Org out of a hotel over a business dispute. Trump also owes Panama taxes he doesn't want to pay.

keithbvadu2

(40,487 posts)
5. First commandeer/confiscate/take over the canal using America's military might.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 09:41 PM
Monday

First commandeer/confiscate/take over the canal using America's military might.
Then manage it for a while and discover that gov't cannot do it efficiently.
Then form a coalition of billionaires/big companies.
Privatize it.
American military still providing security on the taxpayers' dime.

Trump now whining that we pay too much for passage.

Want to bet how much it goes 'down' then?

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