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Mosby

(17,637 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:13 PM Monday

Schools Squander Millions on 'Bullet-Proof' Glass. It Doesn't Work.

Ryan Wilcox peered through his binoculars as a gunman fired at a large piece of glass propped up at a shooting range in the foothills of Utah’s Wasatch mountains.

Wilcox, a Republican state lawmaker charged with securing Utah’s schools, was eager to see if a polyester-based film, thinner than a credit card and applied to glass windows and doors, might answer a desperate nationwide query: How can schools stop attackers from shooting their way in?

Window-film dealers who sell to school districts claim their product is the answer.

Wilcox and other high-ranking state officials watched the bullet strike the film-coated glass. “It just went right through,” he said. “It failed right in front of the whole group.”

The largest U.S. manufacturers of window film, including 3M, say it can’t stop bullets or intruders. But that hasn’t stopped some window-film dealers from cashing in on false or exaggerated claims of ballistic protection.

The Wall Street Journal found that more than $100 million has been spent for the purchase and installation of window film at school districts nationwide. The film is attractive to school officials because it is a fraction of the cost of bulletproof glass.

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lindysalsagal

(22,446 posts)
1. Nothing the schools try will guarantee safety. It's all reactive BS for the taxpayers
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:17 PM
Monday

Every school is built to be evacuated in case of fire. You can't have both. Either you're fire safe or you're terrorist safe.

Terrorists can jump in any window, and they're usually not secure: they're regular glass. Trying to bullet-proof the front door assumes shooters will use the front door. Just plain stupid.

If taxpayers want their kids safe they HAVE to support gun regulation.

RockRaven

(16,528 posts)
2. No shit.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:20 PM
Monday

Unwillingness to deal with the fundamental problem -- the availability of guns to those who misuse them -- creates room for people to sell snake oil to cowards desperate to be seen "doing something" (but not so desperate they would actually do the difficult things required to solve the problem).

dutch777

(3,585 posts)
4. School districts are not good at doing homework. Many do not have sophisticated facilities or purchasing depts that...
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:31 PM
Monday

...can vet things like this. Many don't take the threat seriously, and don't have the wherewithal among all the competing priorities to deal with these things. It would be better if states look at this comprehensively thru their education departments and came up with the best value solution THAT ACTUALLY WORKS and offered funding and project management to institute whatever they determine is best allowing districts that want to, to do more. The local control fanaticism in American education leaves so many kids behind in so many ways and this is just another example.

ProfessorGAC

(70,597 posts)
5. Stopping Bullets Is A Function Of Thickness
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:50 PM
Monday

Even Kevlar isn't magic. It's just has a high enough strength to mass ratio that it can be made thick enough to stop penetration and not be very heavy.
A credit card film of plastic stopping a bullet is a sucker bet, and suckered they got.

harumph

(2,399 posts)
9. Some people lack even "intuitive" understanding of physical properties.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:57 PM
Monday

Makes me think there had to be money under the table. Maybe some people are that dumb? SMDH. Sounds like
prosecutable fraud.

ProfessorGAC

(70,597 posts)
11. Let's Hope So
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:16 PM
Monday

But, in that state I kind of think anything involving guns will go unpunished

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
13. Nailed it
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 12:27 AM
Yesterday

There are a bunch of Trumper companies in the "school security" business desperate for lucrative contracts and plenty of Trumper politicians with their hands out for kickbacks

jmowreader

(51,604 posts)
6. Window film DOES have a purpose in life
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:16 PM
Monday

Very few school shooters are going to stand outside the school and fire into it. They want to be IN the school shooting people.

What this stuff does is keep the potential shooter from busting out the glass with rocks, baseball bats or rifle butts so they can reach inside and work the lock.

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