Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

highplainsdem

(53,015 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:33 AM Dec 23

AOC: Recently took a peek at Twitter and the disinformation is getting substantially more dangerous. Someone could

get killed.

The tactics of constantly repeating outright lies, targeting specific people, repurposing years-old footage and presenting them as new is getting to another level. It’s scary.



https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3ldyajiajrk2w


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
‪@aoc.bsky.social‬

Recently took a peek at Twitter and the disinformation is getting substantially more dangerous. Someone could get killed.

The tactics of constantly repeating outright lies, targeting specific people, repurposing years-old footage and presenting them as new is getting to another level. It’s scary.

December 23, 2024 at 9:26 AM
23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
AOC: Recently took a peek at Twitter and the disinformation is getting substantially more dangerous. Someone could (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 23 OP
So AOC what do you propose to do? Srkdqltr Dec 23 #1
Without a constitutional amendment and this court exboyfil Dec 23 #2
Yeah i agree. 1st amendment allows people oldmanlynn Dec 23 #5
They don't, on a private platform. If the platform owners want spooky3 Dec 23 #10
I think what we have here is ReRe Dec 23 #12
She's doing it. What about you? Hekate Dec 23 #4
attempt at deflection azureblue Dec 23 #14
Probably should have said: what can be done? There is no one who can save us all. Srkdqltr Dec 23 #16
And President Musk has gone full lunatic. CaptainTruth Dec 23 #3
I'm surprised anyone is still on there JustAnotherGen Dec 23 #6
Dregs Iris Dec 23 #7
I'm not surprised. robbob Dec 23 #11
I'm talking about JustAnotherGen Dec 23 #18
Oh, ok! robbob Dec 23 #20
I'm probably the only one here who was never on there! n/t ReRe Dec 23 #13
I was - but used to be a prolific JustAnotherGen Dec 23 #19
I got intentionally banned Blue_Tires Dec 23 #22
I have noticed JustAnotherGen Dec 23 #23
Doesn't seem like The Hell, er, The Hill, gets her GreenWave Dec 23 #8
I would say X is becoming a virtual international terrorism on-going conference. Bluethroughu Dec 23 #9
I am totally against ad hominem attacks. snot Dec 23 #15
Example: Right wing media online claimed the Madison shooter was trans Oneironaut Dec 23 #17
That's why I left for good Blue_Tires Dec 23 #21

exboyfil

(18,052 posts)
2. Without a constitutional amendment and this court
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 10:54 AM
Dec 23

Probably nothing that can be done about it. Perhaps something can be done with the libel laws or tort, but that is difficult as well since the platforms are exempt from the libel laws and torts against the platform will be difficult. Maybe some ability to sue platforms if they can't identify the actual originator of the content?

oldmanlynn

(530 posts)
5. Yeah i agree. 1st amendment allows people
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:48 AM
Dec 23

Yeah i agree. 1st amendment allows people to say whatever they want. We have groups actively using our constitution to undermine our country. This includes foreign enemies. There seems like there is nothing we can do. Its all protected by 1st amendment.

Republicans are using this. To their advantage.

spooky3

(36,557 posts)
10. They don't, on a private platform. If the platform owners want
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:50 PM
Dec 23

To restrict certain types of speech (as is the case here at DU) they can do that. The problem here is that Musk and fellow owners don’t want to—they only restrict speech they don’t like, such as speech critical of Trump.

Someone here probably knows more about this than I do—hasn’t Congress been discussing ways to hold platform owners responsible for certain acts of participants? For example if you threaten a public official or suggest that it would good if others did, and someone acted on that, the platform owner would bear some responsibility.

ReRe

(10,959 posts)
12. I think what we have here is
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:22 PM
Dec 23
HATE SPEECH! They are using freedom of speech to defend hate speech.

I think lies should be classified as hate speech!

azureblue

(2,330 posts)
14. attempt at deflection
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:31 PM
Dec 23

away from the person who is responsible (Elon), the entities spreading the lies (The GOP and Russian Bots), and who has the power to do something about it - but won't (GOP Congress).

CaptainTruth

(7,300 posts)
3. And President Musk has gone full lunatic.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 11:27 AM
Dec 23

Xcrement is like Faux News on acid with a MAGA-dose of stupid.

JustAnotherGen

(33,938 posts)
6. I'm surprised anyone is still on there
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:15 PM
Dec 23

Pro tip when I left last year? Log out and don't log back on. That way (for now) someone can't steal your profile. I'd bet that's why she's keeping hers.

robbob

(3,652 posts)
11. I'm not surprised.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:02 PM
Dec 23

It would be like saying “I’m surprised anyone is still watching Fox “News”.” These people aren’t seeing lies, propaganda and hate, they are seeing what they perceive as reality. This is their world. And I don’t know how we (as a society, that is) can break through that. It started with hate radio, which I’m sure is still a hugely influential, but is now way beyond that. I am still heartbroken and reeling from the idea that two obviously decent, kind and charismatic individuals like Tim and Kamala lost to a convicted felon and sexual predator.

JustAnotherGen

(33,938 posts)
18. I'm talking about
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:59 PM
Dec 23

Democrats. We only need a few people to report back.

I'm a believer that the American Magat is too wet to step on, and too low to kick. I want them to suffer. I will never unite with them until they clearly state:

I knew.
I didn't care.
I'm a racist.
I'm an anti Semitic asshole.
I hate women.
I hate they LGBTQI community.
I wanted immigrants locked up in concentration camps.


We never had a reckoning after the Civil War because the South was not forced to suffer enough. If we don't make them suffer - their lost cause will rise again. And now - they are ALL over America. Yeah - they need to suffer before they can be reached.

I wouldn't be opposed to throwing those Registered as Republicans in 2024 off the Veterans Benefits rolls when they come back. Removal of SSDI, TANF, SNAP for five years when they come back.

See - they haven't been suffering. They believe they have, but they haven't. They need to suffer.

JustAnotherGen

(33,938 posts)
19. I was - but used to be a prolific
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:02 PM
Dec 23

Insta person. Threads is a better experience for me, as I'm already having great discussions with people (us commoners) I've interacted with for years. Dollhouse Minis, Gnome, and luxury boutique hotel lovers tend to be pretty liberal.

Blusky seems to be built more for journalist influencers to peddle stories. Good to read but I don't engage.

JustAnotherGen

(33,938 posts)
23. I have noticed
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:41 PM
Dec 23

The tweet only posts have eased up lately. And good for you on getting banned!

Bluethroughu

(6,139 posts)
9. I would say X is becoming a virtual international terrorism on-going conference.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:41 PM
Dec 23

So when does the DOJ OR CIA get involved?
Who owns it and why are they allowing terrorism, sedition, and propaganda against the US and it's citizens?

Oh yeah, we know who and why.

snot

(10,893 posts)
15. I am totally against ad hominem attacks.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:33 PM
Dec 23

Attack the idea, attack the argument, attack the action; but stop the discourtesy and disrespect, not to mention the much worse practices of cancellation and doxing.

Attacking the messenger simply suggests that you lack substantive grounds for attacking the message.

Oneironaut

(5,830 posts)
17. Example: Right wing media online claimed the Madison shooter was trans
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:50 PM
Dec 23

This was disproven very early. However, major right wing social media personalities said, "No! Don't believe the media! The shooter was trans!" Over and over.

The shooter's boyfriend even came out and said the shooter was Cis. What did X / Twitter do? Tried to sabotage any opinions other than the lie and swarm any post with the truth with bots saying that the shooter was trans, complete with fake evidence.

They don't give a fuck about the truth. The entire point is getting a large enough chunk of people to discard reality and become useful idiots with a Pavlovian response to propaganda, no matter how ridiculous.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»AOC: Recently took a peek...