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Swede

(34,994 posts) Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:58 AM Dec 22

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Trump hints he may demand Panama Canal be returned to U.S.

He really, really wants to destroy the US economy, doesn't he?

President-elect Donald Trump said late Saturday that he may demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States.

The canal, which cuts through the Isthmus of Panama to connect the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, was constructed by the United States beginning in 1904 after it supported Panama's 1903 independence from Colombia and negotiated for control of the canal zone and providing a needed shipping route without having to circumnavigate South America.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2024/12/22/trump-hints-return-panama-canal-us/4801734879654/

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Trump hints he may demand Panama Canal be returned to U.S. (Original Post) Swede Dec 22 OP

Like he can just demand it back and they'll hand it right over? Diamond_Dog Dec 22 #1

Donald J. Trump Must be Drinking from the lead Cup Oneear Dec 22 #2

Check your sources. It's still operating. brush Dec 22 #6

The post you're replying to has probably garbled the actual situation. There's a water management issue involved. JHB Dec 22 #19

52,000,000 gallons of water VGNonly Dec 23 #24

Trump demands Egypt turn over Pyramids of Giza spapeggy Dec 22 #3

Welcome to DU! anciano Dec 22 #5

Thanks! spapeggy Dec 22 #8

Who is giving Trump these ideas? Irish_Dem Dec 22 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 22 #9

And there were allegations that they didn't pay all their taxes Maeve Dec 22 #10

Very interesting, thank you. Irish_Dem Dec 22 #14

This is another case of Trump seeking retaliation over a past grudge. wnylib Dec 22 #13

Revenge and profit. Irish_Dem Dec 22 #15

Who is the incoming Vice President to make these demands? EnergizedLib Dec 22 #7

The Art of the Deal. Aka: Criminal extortion. Ping Tung Dec 22 #11

Trump going full Putin. He is going to invade Johonny Dec 22 #12

Putin wants Alaska back. Cartoonist Dec 22 #16

Trump Companies Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama LetMyPeopleVote Dec 22 #17

Rump Ocean Club.... VGNonly Dec 23 #25

As others have already said... Blue_Tires Dec 22 #18

This is probably nothing more than rage-bait sakabatou Dec 22 #20

Cool, bro Red Mountain Dec 22 #21

Panama could pull a "Suez" on the canal. roamer65 Dec 22 #22

Like he will hand over Ukraine and Taiwan. UTUSN Dec 22 #23

Mango Mussolini is such a troll Hekate Dec 23 #26

Blow it out your ass. But I'll bet DJT has a profit angle by focusing on this. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 23 #27

Diamond_Dog

(35,409 posts)

1. Like he can just demand it back and they'll hand it right over?

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:04 AM

Dec 22

Oneear

(189 posts)

2. Donald J. Trump Must be Drinking from the lead Cup

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:18 AM

Dec 22

The Panama Canal is unable to float Boats due to Climate Change I Guess he did not read the Memo

brush

(58,284 posts)

6. Check your sources. It's still operating.

Reply to Oneear (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:31 PM

Dec 22

JHB

(37,495 posts)

19. The post you're replying to has probably garbled the actual situation. There's a water management issue involved.

Reply to brush (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:31 PM

Dec 22

Panama has had rainfall shortages, depleting the lake that serves as the reservoir for the canal's locks. Sometimes that means limiting the number of ships that pass through in order to conserve the lake water, causing shipping traffic jams.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2024/10/07/heat-and-drought-imperil-the-panama-canal-and-adjoining-rainforests/

VGNonly

(7,839 posts)

24. 52,000,000 gallons of water

Reply to JHB (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:05 AM

Dec 23

is needed for one single passage through the locks.

spapeggy

(130 posts)

3. Trump demands Egypt turn over Pyramids of Giza

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:22 AM

Dec 22

Or else!

anciano

(1,632 posts)

5. Welcome to DU!

Reply to spapeggy (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:29 PM

Dec 22

spapeggy

(130 posts)

8. Thanks!

Reply to anciano (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:42 PM

Dec 22

Irish_Dem

(60,651 posts)

4. Who is giving Trump these ideas?

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:15 PM

Dec 22

He has no idea where the Panama Canal is located.

And never would have thought of stealing it without some prompting.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

dalton99a This message was self-deleted by its author.

Maeve

(43,077 posts)

10. And there were allegations that they didn't pay all their taxes

Reply to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:00 PM

Dec 22

Another grudge story

Irish_Dem

(60,651 posts)

14. Very interesting, thank you.

Reply to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:29 PM

Dec 22

So he is going to follow the route of his business ventures.
Now that he is POUTUS he can monetize everything.

wnylib

(25,015 posts)

13. This is another case of Trump seeking retaliation over a past grudge.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:15 PM

Dec 22

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)

His hotel lease operation in Panama was taken over by another company which removed the Trump name from it. Trump was accused of tax evasion in Panama regarding his earnings from the hotel lease.

So now he is using the excuse that the canal fees are too high and Panama must reduce them or face a takeover. All smoke and mirrors to cover up his revenge motive.

Irish_Dem

(60,651 posts)

15. Revenge and profit.

Reply to wnylib (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:30 PM

Dec 22

He can act out his hatred and anger and probably make some money in the process.

EnergizedLib

(2,283 posts)

7. Who is the incoming Vice President to make these demands?

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:40 PM

Dec 22

Did Elon sign off on giving the soon-to-be Figurehead-In-Chief making these demands?

Ping Tung

(1,494 posts)

11. The Art of the Deal. Aka: Criminal extortion.

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:05 PM

Dec 22

History contains little beyond a list of people who have accommodated themselves with other people's property. Voltaire

Johonny

(22,410 posts)

12. Trump going full Putin. He is going to invade

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:07 PM

Dec 22

A country

Cartoonist

(7,562 posts)

16. Putin wants Alaska back.

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:30 PM

Dec 22

After Trump gives him Ukraine.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,236 posts)

17. Trump Companies Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:10 PM

Dec 22

This is a typical trump stunt. Panama dared to enforce the law against this asshole and now trump wants to go to war.

Link to tweet

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-companies-accused-tax-evasion-panama

The owners of a 70-story Panama City hotel tower formerly managed by President Donald Trump’s companies are accusing them of stiffing the Panamanian government.

In a legal filing Monday in an ongoing lawsuit in Manhattan federal court, private equity manager Orestes Fintiklis and the company he leads, Ithaca Capital Partners, claimed that two Trump companies failed to pay Panamanian taxes equal to 12.5% of the management fees they drew from the hotel.

The Trump entities were allegedly supposed to withhold those fees in advance and pay them to the government regardless of whether the property was profitable or not. Instead, the Trump companies simply kept the money, the suit claims, “thus intentionally evading taxes.” That and other financial irregularities exposed Fintiklis and the companies he represents “to millions of dollars in liability,” according to the suit, which also claims Trump companies sought to cover up their actions. The filing does not say whether a tax penalty has been levied by Panamanian authorities.......

Trump’s company tried unsuccessfully to convince Panamanian President Juan Carlos Varela to intervene on Trump’s behalf. When Fintiklis’ group eventually took control, it found walls had been hastily built to obstruct access to certain areas — one was in the middle of a hallway, another in front of an elevator bank — including inner offices. Trump employees also shredded hotel documents, Fintiklis’ group alleged.

VGNonly

(7,839 posts)

25. Rump Ocean Club....

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:08 AM

Dec 23

Blue_Tires

(57,218 posts)

18. As others have already said...

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:16 PM

Dec 22

This is a distraction, plain and simple... Ten days from now Donnie will deny he ever said anything about the canal and the media will just go along with it...

ANY TIME you see some outrageous shit like this, ask yourselves "What else is happening that the Musk-Trump regime really doesn't want me paying attention to right now??"

sakabatou

(43,355 posts)

20. This is probably nothing more than rage-bait

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:38 PM

Dec 22

Red Mountain

(1,949 posts)

21. Cool, bro

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:41 PM

Dec 22

His plan for cheaper groceries, gas and a better replacement for Obamacare must be finished.

Moving on to the t-crossing and i-dotting.

roamer65

(37,250 posts)

22. Panama could pull a "Suez" on the canal.

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:15 PM

Dec 22

A few ships sunk at right points would render it useless for years.

UTUSN

(72,874 posts)

23. Like he will hand over Ukraine and Taiwan.

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:16 PM

Dec 22

Hekate

(95,569 posts)

26. Mango Mussolini is such a troll

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:10 AM

Dec 23

Look over there!

OAITW r.2.0

(28,893 posts)

27. Blow it out your ass. But I'll bet DJT has a profit angle by focusing on this.

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:22 AM

Dec 23

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