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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Reminder - Elon Musk is a fraud - a GRIFTER just like Trump
He didnt invent Tesla technology. He forced the inventors out of their own company and took it over. His companies Space X & Neuralink are funded by the Government (but hes against Socialism). It's been documented that when he makes these new tech claims he has no idea how to implement them & doesnt know if they can even be implemented. He's been accused of not knowing how to run basic code. Not to mention he charged the hurricane survivors $400 to use Starlink.
ItsjustMe
(11,812 posts)Steve Jobs from Apple was the same way, he was nothing but a con man. Steve Wozniak was the person that built the first Apple computer.
mobeau69
(11,662 posts)ItsjustMe
(11,812 posts)Steve jobs was very much like Trump and Elon Musk.
haele
(13,648 posts)His Design skills were really intuitive, so in that, he was actually a good design engineer. He, like other "tech geniuses" like Gates, just needed other specialist engineers to implement his designs.
I think a lot of Tech Bro ego nonsense began with the breakups of Bell and GE - when research divisions at corporations were pretty much disbanded and everyone got severance, a lot of individual innovation design engineers who were just high enough to know a bit about Program Management struck out on their own to create start-ups without the other engineers, code gurus, and research scientists they used to work with. From the late 80's through the mid 00's, these guys continued to leverage off the work of other engineers and the organizations they used to work with to market the "innovative" thing they had been working on back in the day.
It's really easy to say "That was a product of MY genius" when you're no longer part of a huge R&D team and no one's around to contradict you. And if your severance was large enough, you can hire other engineers or researchers on short term contracts to actually engineer the solution for your great idea so you can take it to market. And still claim it was all you.
Haele
lame54
(37,209 posts)oregonjen
(3,502 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(4,620 posts)Wealthy to an unprecedented degree. Wealth on a level that could effect planetary change for the better. And what does the owner of this wealth decide to do?
Fucking take Medicare and Social Security away from people who worked for it all their lives.
Utter wretchedness.
Bluetus
(301 posts)Musk is like those three but with less kindness, honesty and basic human decency.
We really are a fucked up world as we enter the final stages of capitalism. For years, I have observed Musk supporters on various stock-related forums. In the 2008-2020 period, most hailed him as a messiah who was going to save humanity.
In the past 5 years, the general public has come to recognize this guy is a world class grifter, perpetual liar and absolutely wretched person with no redeeming qualities -- as if the worst of the James Bond villains were brought together in one humanoid form.
But what is really disgusting is that most of the people who originally worshiped Musk as a liberal savior (hey, Jesus started out as a liberal savior too), have now followed Musk into the darkest right-wing places -- just as many CHristian extremists.
kentuck
(112,957 posts)anonymous
Dave Bowman
(3,867 posts)walkingman
(8,551 posts)the government and financial institution created an entire industry to support the cause. Now, huge student debt, and now everyone is pushing trades as the answer - there will be an industry created to support this...now it appears that getting elected to government is the ticket.
Lie, cheat, steal, it doesn't matter what it takes - it is the golden goose that never stops giving.
Praise Jesus!!
question everything
(49,093 posts)allegorical oracle
(3,400 posts)during the Obama admin. and got a huge federal loan. Believe he's a fraud -- a wealthy fraud, but a fraud.
yaesu
(8,360 posts)which saved musk's fascist ass.
Wiz Imp
(2,464 posts)Just a few examples:
1,693 days since Elon Musk promised to get rid of most possessions and live without a home. (5/1/2020)
2,068 days since Elon Musk said there will be a million fully autonomous Tesla robotaxis in a year. (4/22/2019)
2,171 days since Elon Musk said the new Roadster will use rocket technology that will allow it to fly. (1/9/2019)
2,254 days since Elon Musk said Tesla service centers would work to expand to all of North America in 3-6 months. (10/18/2018)
2,281 days since Elon Musk said SpaceX would probably build a base on Mars by 2028. (9/21/2018)
2,318 days since Elon Musk said pod-like electric skates going up to 150 miles an hour could soon take fans to Dodgers games. (8/15/2018)
2,420 days since Elon Musk said he was starting a candy company. (5/5/2018)
2,638 days since Elon Musk said SpaceX rockets could soon take passengers from New York to London in 29 minutes. (9/28/2017)
2,709 days since Elon Musk said he had government approval to build an underground Mid-Atlantic Hyperloop. (7/20/2017)
2,800 days since Elon Musk said he would bring a computer hat to market to help people with brain injuries in about four years. (4/20/2017)
3,060 days since Elon Musk claimed Tesla would start production of an autonomous minibus in 2-3 years. (8/3/2016)
BlueTsunami2018
(4,075 posts)Doesnt matter how much of a grifter he is. Doesnt matter how much of a grifter Piss Wig is.
These people own the entire government.
GoCubsGo
(33,166 posts)Eloon is the South African version of Donald Trump. Two wealthy nepo-babies who take other people's hard work, slap their names on it, and take all the credit. We know Trump is a felon. Given his current company, it's just a matter of time before Eloon becomes one, as well. If he isn't one already, which I STRONGLY suspect that he is. He just hasn't gotten caught yet.
Nixie
(17,413 posts)if I remember correctly. That was all from grifting from his own government. That reminds me of Musk. I think Musk's wealth has already increased significantly since Trump's election. I'm going to try and find that picture of Putin's compound/estate. It's on an isolated cliff. Putin kills so many billionaires and what happens to their money? Musk obviously wants our government money. Who will stop him?
From Wiki:
"On 19 January 2021, two days after Alexei Navalny was detained by Russian authorities upon his return to Russia, an investigation by him and his Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK) was published accusing President Vladimir Putin of using fraudulently obtained funds to build the estate for himself in what he called "the world's biggest bribe." Navalny said that the estate is 39 times the size of Monaco and cost over 100 billion rubles ($1.35 billion) to construct. His video showed aerial footage of the estate via a drone and a detailed floorplan of the palace that Navalny said was given by a contractor, which he compared to photographs from inside the palace that were leaked onto the Internet in 2011. He also detailed an elaborate corruption scheme allegedly involving Putin's inner circle that allowed Putin to hide billions of dollars to build the estate.[40][41][42]"
Now they're saying that the estate has been destroyed. Who knows. But Musk is a grifter just like the best of them on the global stage.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,070 posts)They think by doing so they will be able to profit.